| Want to feel really good about the old coach? [message #366381] |
Sun, 29 August 2021 11:51  |
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Matt Colie
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Location: S.E. Michigan
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As I write this, there are more than a few newer class As with Cummins engines dead on the road.
What is the problem? A non-critical part has failed and they cannot be driven.
What has failed? A level sensor on the DEF (Diesel Exhaust Fluid) tanks has told the ECU that it can't regenerate the exhaust catalyst, so it can't run at any power over idle.
Why not just replace it?? Because there is a parts shortage (stop smiling Jim) and Cummins does not even have a current plan to rescue those that are shut down.
One of those I know of (from that forum only) is a 200+K$us coach that is just over a year old. The owners are full timers and are currently stuck someplace that they don't want to be.....
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: Want to feel really good about the old coach? [message #366384 is a reply to message #366381] |
Sun, 29 August 2021 12:13  |
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Richard RV
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Location: Full-timer for 12 years, ...
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The FMCA magazine lists the current recalls - it always surprises me how many there are on very new, high dollar coaches. At this point, every single problem a GMC could experience has happened and people have figured out what went wrong and how best to fix it. Also at this point, it's all about the community and not the company.
Richard
'77 Birchaven TZE...777;
'76 Palm Beach under construction;
‘76 Edgemont waiting its turn
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| Re: Want to feel really good about the old coach? [message #366393 is a reply to message #366388] |
Mon, 30 August 2021 15:49 |
Carl S.
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Location: Tucson, AZ.
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Yes, and I will NEVER have $200K into my coach no matter WHAT I do to it!
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: Want to feel really good about the old coach? [message #366400 is a reply to message #366381] |
Mon, 30 August 2021 22:20 |
dsmithy
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Registered: July 2012
Location: Lincoln Nebraska
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Thanks for sharing Matt. I've ranted before about the value in these coaches and the community that supports them. Your anecdote just reminds us that in spite of the "attitude adjustment" required to drive a 40 year old coach,it's a sound choice.
Douglas & Virginia Smith,
dsmithy18 at gmail,
Lincoln Nebraska,
’73 “Sequoia” since ‘95: "Wanabizo";
Quadrabag/6 wheel disks/3:70 final/Paterson QuadraJet/Thorley’s/Alloy wheels/Sundry other
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| Re: Want to feel really good about the old coach? [message #366405 is a reply to message #366388] |
Tue, 31 August 2021 10:07 |
Bullitthead
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John, I wish you could just ride over here and take the hex off the quadrajet on my Firebird. Non-E and fresh rebuild from Jegs, I expected it to work as nicely as the one on the GMC but cannot get it to run more than a few seconds without feeding it with the accelerator pump. Very frustrating carbs when they don't work and one of the best when they do.
Terry Kelpien
ASE Master Technician
73 Glacier 260
Smithfield, Va.
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| [GMCnet] Re: Want to feel really good about the old coach? [message #366407 is a reply to message #366405] |
Tue, 31 August 2021 11:24 |
Bullitthead
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Terry,
I had a lot of success with an Edelbrock Performer 625 4 barrel on my 83
350ci Chevy. Adjusted once it was installed on the motor and never touched
it again.
Sully
Bellevue wa.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 8:10 AM Terry via Gmclist
wrote:
> John, I wish you could just ride over here and take the hex off the
> quadrajet on my Firebird. Non-E and fresh rebuild from Jegs, I expected it
> to work
> as nicely as the one on the GMC but cannot get it to run more than a few
> seconds without feeding it with the accelerator pump. Very frustrating carbs
> when they don't work and one of the best when they do.
> --
> Terry Kelpien
>
> ASE Master Technician
>
> 73 Glacier 260
>
> Smithfield, Va.
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ASE Master Technician
73 Glacier 260
Smithfield, Va.
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| [GMCnet] Re: Want to feel really good about the old coach? [message #366410 is a reply to message #366407] |
Tue, 31 August 2021 13:09 |
James Hupy
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Todd, any suggestions on how to remove those stripes off the nose of my 78
Royale? Heat gun, razor blades, abrasive wheel, plastic burnishing tool?
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 9:24 AM Todd Sullivan wrote:
> Terry,
>
> I had a lot of success with an Edelbrock Performer 625 4 barrel on my 83
> 350ci Chevy. Adjusted once it was installed on the motor and never touched
> it again.
>
> Sully
> Bellevue wa.
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 8:10 AM Terry via Gmclist >
> wrote:
>
>> John, I wish you could just ride over here and take the hex off the
>> quadrajet on my Firebird. Non-E and fresh rebuild from Jegs, I expected
> it
>> to work
>> as nicely as the one on the GMC but cannot get it to run more than a few
>> seconds without feeding it with the accelerator pump. Very frustrating
> carbs
>> when they don't work and one of the best when they do.
>> --
>> Terry Kelpien
>>
>> ASE Master Technician
>>
>> 73 Glacier 260
>>
>> Smithfield, Va.
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>
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| [GMCnet] Re: Want to feel really good about the old coach? [message #366411 is a reply to message #366410] |
Tue, 31 August 2021 14:06 |
sgltrac
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Jim,
It really depends upon the condition of the stripe. If they are still soft
I have had the best success with the Astro eraser tool and wheels. I tried
to paste a link here but could not get a small clean one. Google" Astro
eraser wheel" . I found a kit for $118 with the tool and 12 discs. The tool
is specifically designed for the eraser wheel and it is much easier on your
hands and arms than trying to hold a bulky drill. On the SMC you will need
to be especially careful as it will not shed heat nearly as fast as the
aluminum and excess heat will pull the paint off the SMC. On all substrates
I run the tool at super low rpm (it has a speed adjustment screw) and high
pressure. Far less heat is imparted to the substrate by pushing hard on
the wheel at lower rpm than light pressure at high rpm. Start at the edge
of the stripe and work your way along the new edge which is created as the
decal comes off. Stop and check heat frequently until you have an idea of
how fast you can go without overheating. If the panel feels hot to the
touch it's too hot. Warm is ok. If in doubt, work several non adjacent
areas in a sequence to allow cooling. Slow is forgiving. You can spin fast
and push hard on metals but be very careful on plastics and composites.
Learned that on a Saturn door. Once the vinyl is removed if the adhesive
did not come with it, lacquer thinner or adhesive remover will pull the
adhesive. Use lots of clean soft white cloth towels like the ones they sell
at Costco. Be prepared for a "ghost" stripe after removal as the paint
which was covered with the stripe will have less fade than the surrounding
paint.
A razor blade will also work but is far trickier(and harder on the fingers)
to use than an eraser wheel. I would not recommend using a razor blade in a
holder because you lose the dexterity and feel to allow the blade to follow
the surface under the decal without gouging the panel.
HTH
Sully,
Bellevue wa.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 11:09 AM James Hupy wrote:
> Todd, any suggestions on how to remove those stripes off the nose of my 78
> Royale? Heat gun, razor blades, abrasive wheel, plastic burnishing tool?
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2021, 9:24 AM Todd Sullivan wrote:
>
>> Terry,
>>
>> I had a lot of success with an Edelbrock Performer 625 4 barrel on my 83
>> 350ci Chevy. Adjusted once it was installed on the motor and never
> touched
>> it again.
>>
>> Sully
>> Bellevue wa.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 8:10 AM Terry via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> John, I wish you could just ride over here and take the hex off the
>>> quadrajet on my Firebird. Non-E and fresh rebuild from Jegs, I expected
>> it
>>> to work
>>> as nicely as the one on the GMC but cannot get it to run more than a
> few
>>> seconds without feeding it with the accelerator pump. Very frustrating
>> carbs
>>> when they don't work and one of the best when they do.
>>> --
>>> Terry Kelpien
>>>
>>> ASE Master Technician
>>>
>>> 73 Glacier 260
>>>
>>> Smithfield, Va.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>
> _______________________________________________
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Sully
77 Royale basket case.
Future motorhome land speed record holder(bucket list)
Seattle, Wa.
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