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| Dipstick tube broke [message #366275] |
Sun, 22 August 2021 13:42  |
Ken Shaffer
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My oil dipstick tube rusted and broke behind exhaust manifold. I removed manifold and carefully worked on getting the rest of the tube out so that I could replace it…. Well… I failed miserably! Now what? Does anyone have any suggestions besides pulling everything off the bottom to get oil pan off.
It is broke off clean with block. 🥴
Any suggestions?
Ken Shaffer
Marion Iowa
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| [GMCnet] Re: Dipstick tube broke [message #366276 is a reply to message #366275] |
Sun, 22 August 2021 13:51  |
James Hupy
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What I have done when faced with that same problem is to use my 2# slide
hammer with a self tapping screw on the business end. Just screwed it into
the remnants of the dip stick tube until tight, then used the slide hammer
to pull the busted part. Ez-Pz.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021, 11:42 AM Ken Shaffer wrote:
> My oil dipstick tube rusted and broke behind exhaust manifold. I removed
> manifold and carefully worked on getting the rest of the tube out so that I
> could replace it…. Well… I failed miserably! Now what? Does anyone have
> any suggestions besides pulling everything off the bottom to get oil pan
> off.
> It is broke off clean with block. 🥴
> Any suggestions?
>
> --
> Ken Shaffer
> Marion Iowa
> 73 Canyon Lands, 455, Micro-level, Alum radiator, Alcoa wheels, Lenzi
> hubs/bearings, Howell EFI/EBL, Rostra Cruise, Custom interior
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| [GMCnet] Re: Dipstick tube broke [message #366277 is a reply to message #366275] |
Sun, 22 August 2021 14:32 |
Emery Stora
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Ken
One way that should work is to get a long bolt that will just slide into the broken stub head first. Then the head of the bolt can be caught on the inside of the tube. Clamp on a vice-grip and hammer up on it.
When you have it part way up you can then slide a larger bolt into the tube and clamp it down with the vice grip and hammer it up to remove the stub.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Aug 22, 2021, at 12:42 PM, Ken Shaffer wrote:
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> My oil dipstick tube rusted and broke behind exhaust manifold. I removed manifold and carefully worked on getting the rest of the tube out so that I
> could replace it…. Well… I failed miserably! Now what? Does anyone have any suggestions besides pulling everything off the bottom to get oil pan
> off.
> It is broke off clean with block. 🥴
> Any suggestions?
>
> --
> Ken Shaffer
> Marion Iowa
> 73 Canyon Lands, 455, Micro-level, Alum radiator, Alcoa wheels, Lenzi hubs/bearings, Howell EFI/EBL, Rostra Cruise, Custom interior
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| [GMCnet] Re: Dipstick tube broke [message #366278 is a reply to message #366277] |
Sun, 22 August 2021 15:12 |
Thomas Burden
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Ken,
Which side of the block is yours located on looking at the front of the engine, transmission dipstick side or the alternator side? I have been hunting for the oil dipstick ever since I bought my 73’ & cannot find it?
Thanks, Thomas
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 22, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Emery Stora via Gmclist wrote:
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> Ken
> One way that should work is to get a long bolt that will just slide into the broken stub head first. Then the head of the bolt can be caught on the inside of the tube. Clamp on a vice-grip and hammer up on it.
> When you have it part way up you can then slide a larger bolt into the tube and clamp it down with the vice grip and hammer it up to remove the stub.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
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>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 12:42 PM, Ken Shaffer wrote:
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>> My oil dipstick tube rusted and broke behind exhaust manifold. I removed manifold and carefully worked on getting the rest of the tube out so that I
>> could replace it…. Well… I failed miserably! Now what? Does anyone have any suggestions besides pulling everything off the bottom to get oil pan
>> off.
>> It is broke off clean with block. 🥴
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> --
>> Ken Shaffer
>> Marion Iowa
>> 73 Canyon Lands, 455, Micro-level, Alum radiator, Alcoa wheels, Lenzi hubs/bearings, Howell EFI/EBL, Rostra Cruise, Custom interior
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| [GMCnet] Re: Dipstick tube broke [message #366281 is a reply to message #366278] |
Sun, 22 August 2021 16:04 |
jimk
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Tom.
It is on the driver side and close to the bottom pan.
Just a quick call to us would get you info fast.
Also visit our web site.
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 1:12 PM Thomas Burden
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> Ken,
> Which side of the block is yours located on looking at the front of the
> engine, transmission dipstick side or the alternator side? I have been
> hunting for the oil dipstick ever since I bought my 73’ & cannot find it?
> Thanks, Thomas
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Emery Stora via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Ken
>> One way that should work is to get a long bolt that will just slide into
> the broken stub head first. Then the head of the bolt can be caught on the
> inside of the tube. Clamp on a vice-grip and hammer up on it.
>> When you have it part way up you can then slide a larger bolt into the
> tube and clamp it down with the vice grip and hammer it up to remove the
> stub.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick, CO
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>>
>>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 12:42 PM, Ken Shaffer wrote:
>>>
>>> My oil dipstick tube rusted and broke behind exhaust manifold. I
> removed manifold and carefully worked on getting the rest of the tube out
> so that I
>>> could replace it…. Well… I failed miserably! Now what? Does anyone
> have any suggestions besides pulling everything off the bottom to get oil
> pan
>>> off.
>>> It is broke off clean with block. 🥴
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ken Shaffer
>>> Marion Iowa
>>> 73 Canyon Lands, 455, Micro-level, Alum radiator, Alcoa wheels, Lenzi
> hubs/bearings, Howell EFI/EBL, Rostra Cruise, Custom interior
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| [GMCnet] Re: Dipstick tube broke [message #366285 is a reply to message #366281] |
Sun, 22 August 2021 16:47 |
Thomas Burden
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Thanks
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 22, 2021, at 5:04 PM, Jim Kanomata wrote:
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> Tom.
> It is on the driver side and close to the bottom pan.
> Just a quick call to us would get you info fast.
> Also visit our web site.
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>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 1:12 PM Thomas Burden
>> wrote:
>>
>> Ken,
>> Which side of the block is yours located on looking at the front of the
>> engine, transmission dipstick side or the alternator side? I have been
>> hunting for the oil dipstick ever since I bought my 73’ & cannot find it?
>> Thanks, Thomas
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Emery Stora via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ken
>>> One way that should work is to get a long bolt that will just slide into
>> the broken stub head first. Then the head of the bolt can be caught on the
>> inside of the tube. Clamp on a vice-grip and hammer up on it.
>>> When you have it part way up you can then slide a larger bolt into the
>> tube and clamp it down with the vice grip and hammer it up to remove the
>> stub.
>>>
>>> Emery Stora
>>> 77 Kingsley
>>> Frederick, CO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 22, 2021, at 12:42 PM, Ken Shaffer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My oil dipstick tube rusted and broke behind exhaust manifold. I
>> removed manifold and carefully worked on getting the rest of the tube out
>> so that I
>>>> could replace it…. Well… I failed miserably! Now what? Does anyone
>> have any suggestions besides pulling everything off the bottom to get oil
>> pan
>>>> off.
>>>> It is broke off clean with block. 🥴
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ken Shaffer
>>>> Marion Iowa
>>>> 73 Canyon Lands, 455, Micro-level, Alum radiator, Alcoa wheels, Lenzi
>> hubs/bearings, Howell EFI/EBL, Rostra Cruise, Custom interior
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| Re: Dipstick tube broke… PROBLEM SOLVED [message #366288 is a reply to message #366275] |
Sun, 22 August 2021 18:17 |
Ken Shaffer
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I finally got it! Thank you for your suggestions Jim and Emery.
I ended up using a self tapping number 16 bolt and slide hammer. It was not easy but it finally came.
Ken Shaffer
Marion Iowa
73 Canyon Lands, 455, Micro-level, Alum radiator, Alcoa wheels, Lenzi hubs/bearings, Howell EFI/EBL, Rostra Cruise, Custom interior
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| [GMCnet] Re: Dipstick tube broke... PROBLEM SOLVED [message #366291 is a reply to message #366288] |
Sun, 22 August 2021 19:30 |
jimk
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When your running the stock exhaust manifold the dip tube is almost in
contact with the glowing hot exhaust manifold which deteriorates the thin
tube.
When we install the Tri-Y headers, we always replace the tube as they are
ready to bteak
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 4:18 PM Ken Shaffer wrote:
> I finally got it! Thank you for your suggestions Jim and Emery.
> I ended up using a self tapping number 16 bolt and slide hammer. It was
> not easy but it finally came.
> --
> Ken Shaffer
> Marion Iowa
> 73 Canyon Lands, 455, Micro-level, Alum radiator, Alcoa wheels, Lenzi
> hubs/bearings, Howell EFI/EBL, Rostra Cruise, Custom interior
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| [GMCnet] Re: Dipstick tube broke [message #366294 is a reply to message #366275] |
Sun, 22 August 2021 20:33 |
Ken Henderson
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I've been lucky and haven't had one break off yet. But over the years,
I've heard of removing them out the top AND out the bottom.
Out the bottom's been pretty well covered already ('tho' I haven't seen
anyone suggest using a threading tap into the tube, then pull with vice
grips). Out the bottom isn't as obvious: A straight piece of wire, bent
as appropriate, treaded through the tube and out the oil drain hole. Then
use a piece of tube to drive the broken off piece down the wire to guide it
out the hole.
I've even heard "just drive it through and leave it in the bottom of the
pan if you can't get it to and out of the hole". Probably not a terrible
option, considering that it can't get picked up through the screen.
Ken H.
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 2:42 PM Ken Shaffer wrote:
> My oil dipstick tube rusted and broke behind exhaust manifold. I removed
> manifold and carefully worked on getting the rest of the tube out so that I
> could replace it…. Well… I failed miserably! Now what? Does anyone have
> any suggestions besides pulling everything off the bottom to get oil pan
> off.
> It is broke off clean with block. 🥴
> Any suggestions?
>
> --
> Ken Shaffer
> Marion Iowa
> 73 Canyon Lands, 455, Micro-level, Alum radiator, Alcoa wheels, Lenzi
> hubs/bearings, Howell EFI/EBL, Rostra Cruise, Custom interior
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| [GMCnet] Re: Dipstick tube broke [message #366295 is a reply to message #366294] |
Sun, 22 August 2021 23:07 |
jimk
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WE have had to push a hanger wire and poke it through the drain hole then
push the tube through with another tube.
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 6:34 PM Ken Henderson
wrote:
> I've been lucky and haven't had one break off yet. But over the years,
> I've heard of removing them out the top AND out the bottom.
>
> Out the bottom's been pretty well covered already ('tho' I haven't seen
> anyone suggest using a threading tap into the tube, then pull with vice
> grips). Out the bottom isn't as obvious: A straight piece of wire, bent
> as appropriate, treaded through the tube and out the oil drain hole. Then
> use a piece of tube to drive the broken off piece down the wire to guide it
> out the hole.
>
> I've even heard "just drive it through and leave it in the bottom of the
> pan if you can't get it to and out of the hole". Probably not a terrible
> option, considering that it can't get picked up through the screen.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 2:42 PM Ken Shaffer wrote:
>
>> My oil dipstick tube rusted and broke behind exhaust manifold. I removed
>> manifold and carefully worked on getting the rest of the tube out so
> that I
>> could replace it…. Well… I failed miserably! Now what? Does anyone have
>> any suggestions besides pulling everything off the bottom to get oil pan
>> off.
>> It is broke off clean with block. 🥴
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> --
>> Ken Shaffer
>> Marion Iowa
>> 73 Canyon Lands, 455, Micro-level, Alum radiator, Alcoa wheels, Lenzi
>> hubs/bearings, Howell EFI/EBL, Rostra Cruise, Custom interior
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| [GMCnet] Re: Dipstick tube broke [message #366299 is a reply to message #366275] |
Mon, 23 August 2021 13:16 |
James Hupy
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Kinda funny how solving one problem triggers some thoughts about other
unrelated problems.
When you stop to think about it, taking the oil pan off this engine is
a major p.i.t.a. so one would spend a good deal of time and effort to avoid
that, if at all possible.
But, a cylinder not firing correctly? There are 5 exhaust manifold
bolts and 8 or 9 cylinder head bolts to remove, and you can have the head
on the bench to have a look-see. Looking for a work-around to that might be
a waste of time. "JUST DO IT", is the quickest way, especially because the
head will have to come off anyway. Just a random thought, kinda off the
subject of dip sticks.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021, 11:04 AM Ken Shaffer wrote:
> The wire trick out the drain hole was my plan C... Luckily, the #16 self
> tapping bolt and a slide hammer did the trick. I am happy to have this job
> done and hope I NEVER have to do that again.
> Thanks everyone for your help on this. I thought I was going to have to
> drop the pan and we all know what a major that is! :)
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 11:08 PM Jim Kanomata
> wrote:
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>> WE have had to push a hanger wire and poke it through the drain hole then
>> push the tube through with another tube.
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 6:34 PM Ken Henderson
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been lucky and haven't had one break off yet. But over the years,
>>> I've heard of removing them out the top AND out the bottom.
>>>
>>> Out the bottom's been pretty well covered already ('tho' I haven't seen
>>> anyone suggest using a threading tap into the tube, then pull with vice
>>> grips). Out the bottom isn't as obvious: A straight piece of wire,
> bent
>>> as appropriate, treaded through the tube and out the oil drain hole.
>> Then
>>> use a piece of tube to drive the broken off piece down the wire to
> guide
>> it
>>> out the hole.
>>>
>>> I've even heard "just drive it through and leave it in the bottom of
> the
>>> pan if you can't get it to and out of the hole". Probably not a
> terrible
>>> option, considering that it can't get picked up through the screen.
>>>
>>> Ken H.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 2:42 PM Ken Shaffer
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My oil dipstick tube rusted and broke behind exhaust manifold. I
>> removed
>>>> manifold and carefully worked on getting the rest of the tube out so
>>> that I
>>>> could replace it…. Well… I failed miserably! Now what? Does anyone
>> have
>>>> any suggestions besides pulling everything off the bottom to get oil
>> pan
>>>> off.
>>>> It is broke off clean with block. 🥴
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ken Shaffer
>>>> Marion Iowa
>>>> 73 Canyon Lands, 455, Micro-level, Alum radiator, Alcoa wheels, Lenzi
>>>> hubs/bearings, Howell EFI/EBL, Rostra Cruise, Custom interior
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
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| [GMCnet] Re: Dipstick tube broke [message #366300 is a reply to message #366295] |
Mon, 23 August 2021 13:04 |
Ken Shaffer
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The wire trick out the drain hole was my plan C... Luckily, the #16 self
tapping bolt and a slide hammer did the trick. I am happy to have this job
done and hope I NEVER have to do that again.
Thanks everyone for your help on this. I thought I was going to have to
drop the pan and we all know what a major that is! :)
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 11:08 PM Jim Kanomata wrote:
> WE have had to push a hanger wire and poke it through the drain hole then
> push the tube through with another tube.
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 6:34 PM Ken Henderson
> wrote:
>
>> I've been lucky and haven't had one break off yet. But over the years,
>> I've heard of removing them out the top AND out the bottom.
>>
>> Out the bottom's been pretty well covered already ('tho' I haven't seen
>> anyone suggest using a threading tap into the tube, then pull with vice
>> grips). Out the bottom isn't as obvious: A straight piece of wire, bent
>> as appropriate, treaded through the tube and out the oil drain hole.
> Then
>> use a piece of tube to drive the broken off piece down the wire to guide
> it
>> out the hole.
>>
>> I've even heard "just drive it through and leave it in the bottom of the
>> pan if you can't get it to and out of the hole". Probably not a terrible
>> option, considering that it can't get picked up through the screen.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 2:42 PM Ken Shaffer wrote:
>>
>>> My oil dipstick tube rusted and broke behind exhaust manifold. I
> removed
>>> manifold and carefully worked on getting the rest of the tube out so
>> that I
>>> could replace it…. Well… I failed miserably! Now what? Does anyone
> have
>>> any suggestions besides pulling everything off the bottom to get oil
> pan
>>> off.
>>> It is broke off clean with block. 🥴
>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ken Shaffer
>>> Marion Iowa
>>> 73 Canyon Lands, 455, Micro-level, Alum radiator, Alcoa wheels, Lenzi
>>> hubs/bearings, Howell EFI/EBL, Rostra Cruise, Custom interior
>>> _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] Re: Dipstick tube broke [message #366303 is a reply to message #366301] |
Mon, 23 August 2021 19:05 |
Larry
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rgogan wrote on Mon, 23 August 2021 14:39Little off the subject of a broken dipstick tube, but this Saturday I stopped at a gas station in Pennsylvania and there was a Harley rider with his girlfriend on the bitch seat at the pump next to me. While I was filling up with gas, I pulled my oil dipstick out and caught the Harley rider watching with amazement. I made the mistake of saying that I guess my dipstick is a bit longer than yours. I am grateful that I didn't have to have my jaw wired shut, but I only spoke the truth.
Good one!! I had a good belly laugh over that........
Larry 
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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