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A quick easy question for the EFI guys [message #366245] Fri, 20 August 2021 17:38 Go to next message
Tom Katzenberger is currently offline  Tom Katzenberger   United States
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I am in the process of installing the Howell EFI and electronic Dist. My EBL does not have a USB connection. How does one connect a laptop to the EBL?

Thanks,
Tom K.


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[GMCnet] Re: A quick easy question for the EFI guys [message #366247 is a reply to message #366245] Fri, 20 August 2021 18:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Margie Van Winkle is currently offline  Margie Van Winkle   United States
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Does your tablet have a mini USB port? If so, you can get an adapter from
mini to regular. If your mini USB is being used to charge your tablet then
I think you can get an adapter to allow charging and other USB ports. I
have heard people say they have had trouble getting it to work reliably.
Randy

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021, 4:38 PM wrote:

> I am in the process of installing the Howell EFI and electronic Dist. My
> EBL does not have a USB connection. How does one connect a laptop to the
> EBL?
>
> Thanks,
> Tom K.
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Re: [GMCnet] Re: A quick easy question for the EFI guys [message #366250 is a reply to message #366247] Fri, 20 August 2021 20:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill Van Vlack is currently offline  Bill Van Vlack   United States
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Tom,
Does your EBL have this interface?

If so, it should have come with the USB adapter cable. Call the vendor (Applied or Dynamic EFI).


Bill Van Vlack '76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid November 2015.
Re: A quick easy question for the EFI guys [message #366251 is a reply to message #366245] Fri, 20 August 2021 20:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Katzenberger is currently offline  Tom Katzenberger   United States
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Thank you Randy,

I think I will to have a dedicated tablet of some sort and keep it permanently mounted. I am just running the harness now and did not see the USB on the EBL or harness. Do I have to make the USB connection? The EBL does say "Whats Up Display" and a date. So that is good news. I am looking to run a data wire of some sort to the dash area.

Thanks again,
Tom K.


Tom & Oki Katzenberger, Kingsville, Maryland, 1977 23' Birchaven, 455 C.I.D., Micro Level, Howell EBL-EFI Spark Control, Macerator, York Air Compressor, 6 Wheel Disc, Quadra Bag, Onan W/Bovee Ignition
Re: A quick easy question for the EFI guys [message #366252 is a reply to message #366245] Fri, 20 August 2021 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RF_Burns is currently offline  RF_Burns   Canada
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EBL changed from an RS232 serial connection to a USB connection around 2018. The USB cable has a stereo style 1/8" plug on one end that plugs into a female connector on the wiring harness.

The previous RS232 cable had a modular cable that plugged in to the EBL.

You may need to add the female connector to your wiring harness for the newer USB cable. Here is a page that shows how:
http://dynamicefi.com/EBL_Flash_Install.php


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[GMCnet] Re: A quick easy question for the EFI guys [message #366254 is a reply to message #366252] Fri, 20 August 2021 22:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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The new EBL is not USB, it is still TTL level serial and has to be translated to USB using an adapter
The change was to move the IO to use free pins on the connector
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Subject: [GMCnet] Re: A quick easy question for the EFI guys

EBL changed from an RS232 serial connection to a USB connection around 2018. The USB cable has a stereo style 1/8" plug on one end that plugs into a
female connector on the wiring harness.

The previous RS232 cable had a modular cable that plugged in to the EBL.

You may need to add the female connector to your wiring harness for the newer USB cable. Here is a page that shows how:
http://dynamicefi.com/EBL_Flash_Install.php
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Re: [GMCnet] Re: A quick easy question for the EFI guys [message #366255 is a reply to message #366247] Fri, 20 August 2021 22:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry, I misunderstood your question. If you do not have a USB on your EBL, then you should have a telephone cable from the EBL to a Serial connector. If you have this cabling, then you need a Serial to USB connector. I have used this one with very good success: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00425S1H8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If you do not have the telephone cable connector (RJ46) to Serial connector which you should have received with your EBL system, then you should contact where you got your EBL system from to get the necessary connector. Make sure you use a 4-wire telephone cable.

If your EBL box does not have a telephone port (RJ46) then you have a system manufactured sometime after 2018. With this system, there should be a cable that has pins for 3 wires to attach to the data cable connectors (Blue) on the back of the EBL box. This cable has an Audio type connector that should have a USB connector on the other end. If you don't have these cables then contact your supplier.


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Re: A quick easy question for the EFI guys [message #366259 is a reply to message #366245] Sat, 21 August 2021 06:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Katzenberger is currently offline  Tom Katzenberger   United States
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You guys are great!!!!!! Thank you so much. I will carry on with the knowledge gained.

Have a great weekend,
Tom K


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Re: A quick easy question for the EFI guys [message #366260 is a reply to message #366252] Sat, 21 August 2021 06:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RF_Burns wrote on Fri, 20 August 2021 22:55
EBL changed from an RS232 serial connection to a USB connection around 2018. The USB cable has a stereo style 1/8" plug on one end that plugs into a female connector on the wiring harness.

The previous RS232 cable had a modular cable that plugged in to the EBL.
I must have been sleeping in class when this happened. I didn't know about the change. I am wondering what else I missed since I installed my EBL over 10 years ago.


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[GMCnet] Re: A quick easy question for the EFI guys [message #366266 is a reply to message #366260] Sat, 21 August 2021 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 4:51 AM RJW wrote:

> RF_Burns wrote on Fri, 20 August 2021 22:55
>> EBL changed from an RS232 serial connection to a USB connection around
> 2018. The USB cable has a stereo style 1/8" plug on one end that plugs
>> into a female connector on the wiring harness.
>>
>> The previous RS232 cable had a modular cable that plugged in to the EBL.
>
> I must have been sleeping in class when this happened. I didn't know
> about the change. I am wondering what else I missed since I installed my EBL
> over 10 years ago.
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> 76 Palm Beach
> SE Michigan
> www.PalmBeachGMC.com
>
>
> Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum
> system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water
> heaters.
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Re: A quick easy question for the EFI guys [message #366268 is a reply to message #366245] Sat, 21 August 2021 14:04 Go to previous message
Tom Katzenberger is currently offline  Tom Katzenberger   United States
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Jim,

Thank you. I found the USB cable link in the box. Everything is installing very well.

You guys have been great! Give my best to Nick and Dan.

Thanks again,
Tom K.


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