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Holley EFI Throttle Position Sensor [message #366019] Mon, 09 August 2021 13:42 Go to next message
rjw   United States
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I might need to purchase a "Holley EFI Throttle Position Sensor" for my Howell EFI. Does anyone know the model# of the Holly Throttle body in Howell's 455 GMC kit, or a part number for the Throttle Position Sensor used in the kit?


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[GMCnet] Re: Holley EFI Throttle Position Sensor [message #366029 is a reply to message #366019] Mon, 09 August 2021 17:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fastest way is to call Howell and they should be able to supply them.
We generally keep couple,

On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 11:42 AM RJW wrote:

> I might need to purchase a "Holley EFI Throttle Position Sensor" for my
> Howell EFI. Does anyone know the model# of the Holly Throttle body in
> Howell's 455 GMC kit, or a part number for the Throttle Position Sensor
> used in the kit?
>
> --
> Richard
> 76 Palm Beach
> SE Michigan
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>
>
> Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum
> system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water
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[GMCnet] Re: Holley EFI Throttle Position Sensor [message #366035 is a reply to message #366029] Mon, 09 August 2021 19:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Speaking of which: I noticed yesterday, in my land/sea container shed, a
box containing the Holley throttle body I replaced with a Rochester when I
installed the Cad 500 -- 'cause it probably couldn't have supplied gas fast
enough for the Cad. Does it have any value to anyone? Make me an offer...

Ken H.

On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 6:08 PM Jim Kanomata wrote:

> Fastest way is to call Howell and they should be able to supply them.
> We generally keep couple,
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 11:42 AM RJW wrote:
>
>> I might need to purchase a "Holley EFI Throttle Position Sensor" for my
>> Howell EFI. Does anyone know the model# of the Holly Throttle body in
>> Howell's 455 GMC kit, or a part number for the Throttle Position Sensor
>> used in the kit?
>>
>> --
>> Richard
>> 76 Palm Beach
>> SE Michigan
>> www.PalmBeachGMC.com
>>
>>
>> Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum
>> system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water
>> heaters.
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Re: Holley EFI Throttle Position Sensor [message #366051 is a reply to message #366019] Tue, 10 August 2021 09:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rjw   United States
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rjw wrote on Mon, 09 August 2021 14:42
I might need to purchase a "Holley EFI Throttle Position Sensor" for my Howell EFI. Does anyone know the model# of the Holly Throttle body in Howell's 455 GMC kit, or a part number for the Throttle Position Sensor used in the kit?
Upon further review (thanks DuckDuckGo), it appears that the TPS I need is a standard GM part for lots of GM Throttle Body EFI vehicles. Not real expensive at less than $50 and available today at numerous auto parts stores.

Thanks to all that responded to my query.


Richard
76 Palm Beach
SE Michigan
www.PalmBeachGMC.com

Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water heaters.
Re: [GMCnet] Re: Holley EFI Throttle Position Sensor [message #366053 is a reply to message #366035] Tue, 10 August 2021 09:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Henderson wrote on Mon, 09 August 2021 20:16
Speaking of which: I noticed yesterday, in my land/sea container shed, a
box containing the Holley throttle body I replaced with a Rochester when I
installed the Cad 500 -- 'cause it probably couldn't have supplied gas fast
enough for the Cad. Does it have any value to anyone? Make me an offer...

Ken H.
Ken,
I'm interested in the Holly throttle body. I tried to email you, but both addresses I had bounced. I'll try PM.



Richard
76 Palm Beach
SE Michigan
www.PalmBeachGMC.com

Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water heaters.
Re: Holley EFI Throttle Position Sensor [message #366097 is a reply to message #366019] Thu, 12 August 2021 20:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's a TH39:

Standard Motor Products TH39 Throttle Position Sensor


'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
Best Wishes,
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Re: Holley EFI Throttle Position Sensor [message #366107 is a reply to message #366097] Fri, 13 August 2021 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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George Beckman wrote on Thu, 12 August 2021 21:08
It's a TH39:

Standard Motor Products TH39 Throttle Position Sensor
George,

That's it! Bought one from O-Reilly's for less than $50. But a bad TPS is probably not the cause of my random rough running engine problems.

While reviewing some recent data logs with WhatsUp I see that I have Malfunction Code 23 which is IAT LO. That code did not trigger the SES light so I didn't notice it until I pulled up the "Malfunction Codes" screen during playback.

I added a Intake Air Temperature sensor to my system over 10 years ago. I don't remember how I obtained the IAT sensor I installed.

I'm guessing that it's a standard GM part like the TPS.



Richard
76 Palm Beach
SE Michigan
www.PalmBeachGMC.com

Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water heaters.
Re: Holley EFI Throttle Position Sensor [message #366111 is a reply to message #366107] Fri, 13 August 2021 13:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Check for a loose connection at the IAT. Dump your datalog to a csv file (WUD, under 'Analysis') and look at IAT temps. I think 'LO' means an open, or 0 degrees. I don't think the IAT is in play during closed loop since in CL fueling is controlled by NB02 or WB02. In open loop, intake air temp is used to determine the weight of air in the injector pulse width calculations.

Bill Van Vlack '76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid November 2015.

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[GMCnet] Re: Holley EFI Throttle Position Sensor [message #366112 is a reply to message #366111] Fri, 13 August 2021 14:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't use an IAC at all, the light is flashing all the time.
I doubt thats a problem.
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Check for a loose connection at the IAC. Dump your datalog to a csv file (WUD, under 'Analysis') and look at IAT temps. I think 'LO' means an open, or
0 degrees. I don't think the IAT is in play during closed loop since in CL fueling is controlled by NB02 or WB02. In open loop, intake air temp is
used to determine the weight of air in the injector pulse width calculations.
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Re: [GMCnet] Re: Holley EFI Throttle Position Sensor [message #366114 is a reply to message #366112] Fri, 13 August 2021 14:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Keith V wrote on Fri, 13 August 2021 14:11
I don't use an IAC at all, the light is flashing all the time.
Whoops! should have said 'IAT'; fixed it above.
I'm surprised it idles without an IAC; or did you mean IAT? Very Happy


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Re: Holley EFI Throttle Position Sensor [message #366117 is a reply to message #366111] Fri, 13 August 2021 15:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bill Van Vlack wrote on Fri, 13 August 2021 14:51
Check for a loose connection at the IAT. Dump your datalog to a csv file (WUD, under 'Analysis') and look at IAT temps. I think 'LO' means an open, or 0 degrees. I don't think the IAT is in play during closed loop since in CL fueling is controlled by NB02 or WB02. In open loop, intake air temp is used to determine the weight of air in the injector pulse width calculations.
I feel a bit stupid here. I have not fooled with my EFI with EBL for close to 10 years and as it turns out my mind is not the steel trap that it once was.

I think I set the code when I had the air cleaner off (unplugged the IAT) and turned the ignition key to ON. Now I have no idea how to reset the code now that the IAT connector was reattached.


Richard
76 Palm Beach
SE Michigan
www.PalmBeachGMC.com

Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water heaters.
[GMCnet] Re: Holley EFI Throttle Position Sensor [message #366118 is a reply to message #366114] Fri, 13 August 2021 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The whoops is all mine, I meant the IAT, I have an IAC
Dang TLA's
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Keith V wrote on Fri, 13 August 2021 14:11
> I don't use an IAC at all, the light is flashing all the time.

Whoops! should have said 'IAT'; fixed it above.
I'm surprised it idles without an IAC; or did you mean IAT? :d

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[GMCnet] Re: Holley EFI Throttle Position Sensor [message #366119 is a reply to message #366117] Fri, 13 August 2021 16:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey, Richard, welcome to the Old Codgers' Club. Sure glad to finally have
some company here!

Ken H.

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 4:35 PM RJW wrote:

> Bill Van Vlack wrote on Fri, 13 August 2021 14:51
>> Check for a loose connection at the IAT. Dump your datalog to a csv file
> (WUD, under 'Analysis') and look at IAT temps. I think 'LO' means an
>> open, or 0 degrees. I don't think the IAT is in play during closed loop
> since in CL fueling is controlled by NB02 or WB02. In open loop, intake air
>> temp is used to determine the weight of air in the injector pulse width
> calculations.
>
> I feel a bit stupid here. I have not fooled with my EFI with EBL for
> close to 10 years and as it turns out my mind is not the steel trap that it
> once was.
>
> I think I set the code when I had the air cleaner off (unplugged the IAT)
> and turned the ignition key to ON. Now I have no idea how to reset the code
> now that the IAT connector was reattached.
> --
> Richard
> 76 Palm Beach
> SE Michigan
> www.PalmBeachGMC.com
>
>
> Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum
> system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water
> heaters.
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Re: [GMCnet] Re: Holley EFI Throttle Position Sensor [message #366159 is a reply to message #366119] Sun, 15 August 2021 11:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Henderson wrote on Fri, 13 August 2021 17:15
Hey, Richard, welcome to the Old Codgers' Club. Sure glad to finally have
some company here!

Ken H.


> I feel a bit stupid here. I have not fooled with my EFI with EBL for
> close to 10 years and as it turns out my mind is not the steel trap that it
> once was.
>
> I think I set the code when I had the air cleaner off (unplugged the IAT)
> and turned the ignition key to ON. Now I have no idea how to reset the code
> now that the IAT connector was reattached.
[color=blue]> --
[color=blue]> Richard
Ken,
It's finally happening, I'm old enough to be a member of the "Old Codgers' Club". I'm not sure that I am happy about that, but at least I am still around to be annoyed by that fact.

Thanks for the warm welcome!
Richard


Richard
76 Palm Beach
SE Michigan
www.PalmBeachGMC.com

Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water heaters.
[GMCnet] Re: Holley EFI Throttle Position Sensor [message #366160 is a reply to message #366159] Sun, 15 August 2021 11:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How old is that, anyway? Asked he who just finished erecting a 10' x 14'
gazebo on the patio.
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On Sun, Aug 15, 2021, 9:42 AM RJW wrote:

> Ken Henderson wrote on Fri, 13 August 2021 17:15
>> Hey, Richard, welcome to the Old Codgers' Club. Sure glad to finally
> have
>> some company here!
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>>> I feel a bit stupid here. I have not fooled with my EFI with EBL for
>>> close to 10 years and as it turns out my mind is not the steel trap
> that it
>>> once was.
>>>
>>> I think I set the code when I had the air cleaner off (unplugged the
> IAT)
>>> and turned the ignition key to ON. Now I have no idea how to reset
> the code
>>> now that the IAT connector was reattached.
[color=teal]>> > --
[color=teal]>> > Richard
>
> Ken,
> It's finally happening, I'm old enough to be a member of the "Old Codgers'
> Club". I'm not sure that I am happy about that, but at least I am still
> around to be annoyed by that fact.
>
> Thanks for the warm welcome!
> Richard
>
> --
> Richard
> 76 Palm Beach
> SE Michigan
> www.PalmBeachGMC.com
>
>
> Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum
> system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water
> heaters.
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Jim,

I don't know the official age, but I THOUGHT I was well qualified at 84.
Then, during a routine visit to the doctor a couple of weeks ago I met an
87 yo there for a similar routine visit -- he's still laying bricks!!! So
now, I'm back to "Young Whippersnapper" status. That gazebo sounds like
you're even moreso! Hallelujah!

Ken H.

On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 12:50 PM James Hupy wrote:

> How old is that, anyway? Asked he who just finished erecting a 10' x 14'
> gazebo on the patio.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>
> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021, 9:42 AM RJW wrote:
>
>> Ken Henderson wrote on Fri, 13 August 2021 17:15
>>> Hey, Richard, welcome to the Old Codgers' Club. Sure glad to finally
>> have
>>> some company here!
>>>
>>> Ken H.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I feel a bit stupid here. I have not fooled with my EFI with EBL
> for
>>>> close to 10 years and as it turns out my mind is not the steel trap
>> that it
>>>> once was.
>>>>
>>>> I think I set the code when I had the air cleaner off (unplugged the
>> IAT)
>>>> and turned the ignition key to ON. Now I have no idea how to reset
>> the code
>>>> now that the IAT connector was reattached.
[color=royalblue]>>> > --
[color=royalblue]>>> > Richard
>>
>> Ken,
>> It's finally happening, I'm old enough to be a member of the "Old
> Codgers'
>> Club". I'm not sure that I am happy about that, but at least I am still
>> around to be annoyed by that fact.
>>
>> Thanks for the warm welcome!
>> Richard
>>
>> --
>> Richard
>> 76 Palm Beach
>> SE Michigan
>> www.PalmBeachGMC.com
>>
>>
>> Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum
>> system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water
>> heaters.
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Re: [GMCnet] Re: Holley EFI Throttle Position Sensor [message #366177 is a reply to message #366161] Mon, 16 August 2021 13:23 Go to previous message
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Ken Henderson wrote on Sun, 15 August 2021 14:15
Jim,

I don't know the official age, but I THOUGHT I was well qualified at 84.
Then, during a routine visit to the doctor a couple of weeks ago I met an
87 yo there for a similar routine visit -- he's still laying bricks!!! So
now, I'm back to "Young Whippersnapper" status. That gazebo sounds like
you're even moreso! Hallelujah!
Ken H.
That sounds much better, the "Young Whippersnapper", vs the "Old Codgers' Club".

Pencil me in for the "Young Whippersnapper" club!


Richard
76 Palm Beach
SE Michigan
www.PalmBeachGMC.com

Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water heaters.
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