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[GMCnet] Re: GM Alternator Rebuild [message #365880 is a reply to message #365862] |
Thu, 05 August 2021 13:48   |
James Hupy
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The last GM alternator I had rebuilt just a
month or so ago, was done by a local rebuilder.
New, American made parts included bearings (both ends) Stator and
Rotor, solid state regulator. Large binding post, and duplex connector.
Disassembled, cleaned, stripped threads repaired, and finally a larger
duplex pulley added. Reassembled tested and certified to produce 100 amps
output.
$94.00 in U.S. dollars. Probably better than a brand new one. Quality
has a high price, I guess.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Thu, Aug 5, 2021, 11:37 AM Emery Stora via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> I see you can get a a rebuild kit from this seller for $34.99.
> https://www.maniacelectricmotors.com/10si-alternator-rebuild-kit.html
> I did not do a search for a lower price.
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> Emery Stora
> emerystora@mac.com
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>> On Aug 4, 2021, at 2:00 PM, Ernest Dankert
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> https://www.hemmings.com/stories/2021/07/30/rejuvenating-the-appearance-and-functionality-of-an-original-gm-10si-series-alternator?refer=hccweekly& ;amp
>> ;utm_source=hccweekly&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2021-08-04
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>> Nice tutorial on how to rebuild/repair our alternators.
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>> 1977 Eleganza II
>> Ogden NY
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Re: GM Alternator Rebuild [message #365901 is a reply to message #365862] |
Fri, 06 August 2021 07:32   |
JohnL455
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My thoughts on diodes and regulator is if they are good old Delco parts, leave them alone. Replace the bearings and brushes, and clean all connections with D5 and reassemble. This has worked for me on GM vehicles.
And now a question for the experts. I understand the brush depressor tool (spray straw or wire provided) for reassembly, but is there a way to depress the brushes for disassembly so they don’t snap into the gap between the slip rings and crack the brush holder. Seems that happens about half the time for me.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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[GMCnet] Re: GM Alternator Rebuild [message #365903 is a reply to message #365901] |
Fri, 06 August 2021 07:47   |
James Hupy
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Yep, if you look carefully at the slip ring brush holders, you will see a
small drilled hole in them. I use round toothpicks or other NON-CONDUCTIVE
similar shaped item. Push the brush back in the holder, which compresses
the spring, insert toothpick, and "Bob's your uncle". Oh yes, don't forget
to pull the toothpicks after you slide the assembly together. Otherwise, no
chargee.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Fri, Aug 6, 2021, 5:33 AM John R. Lebetski
wrote:
> My thoughts on diodes and regulator is if they are good old Delco parts,
> leave them alone. Replace the bearings and brushes, and clean all
> connections
> with D5 and reassemble. This has worked for me on GM vehicles.
> And now a question for the experts. I understand the brush depressor tool
> (spray straw or wire provided) for reassembly, but is there a way to
> depress the brushes for disassembly so they don’t snap into the gap
> between the slip rings and crack the brush holder. Seems that happens about
> half the time for me.
> --
> John Lebetski
> Woodstock, IL
> 77 Eleganza II
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Re: GM Alternator Rebuild [message #365905 is a reply to message #365900] |
Fri, 06 August 2021 09:09   |
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Matt Colie
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RF_Burns wrote on Fri, 06 August 2021 07:48Note what the voltage "Set Point" is of the replacement voltage regulator module. My experience is common VRs are now running 14.8 volts which to me in our application is too high. I had to do some searching and came up with a 14.2 volt VR.
The Set point is the voltage the VR wants to see on the voltage sense wire (after the isolator). So you maybe seeing 15.5V at the center terminal of the isolator.
14.8V might be fine for quick recharging after start-up for personal car that just runs around town... starts drives for 5 ,miles then shut off. But our coaches typically run for several hours,fuel-up then run for several hours again. So 14.8V, or even 14.5V is high, so I went with 14.2V
Bruce,
I steadfastly agree, but I never figured out how to get a regulator with the lower set point. Do you have part numbers or any clue?
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: GM Alternator Rebuild [message #365906 is a reply to message #365901] |
Fri, 06 August 2021 09:16   |
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Matt Colie
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JohnL455 wrote on Fri, 06 August 2021 08:32My thoughts on diodes and regulator is if they are good old Delco parts, leave them alone. Replace the bearings and brushes, and clean all connections with D5 and reassemble. This has worked for me on GM vehicles.
And now a question for the experts. I understand the brush depressor tool (spray straw or wire provided) for reassembly, but is there a way to depress the brushes for disassembly so they don’t snap into the gap between the slip rings and crack the brush holder. Seems that happens about half the time for me.
John,
I have had the brushes hang up, but if you can take it apart from the front (sheave end, you can usually do this on a 27) one can tease the rotor out past the brushes.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: GM Alternator Rebuild **Note to all TZE owners [message #365924 is a reply to message #365907] |
Fri, 06 August 2021 17:59   |
Rick Staples
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FWIW......
According to the 78Z gmc parts book, the resistor was used in our alternators beginning in 1975. It's not pictured, but is listed as part of the PN 1101016 alternator introduced for 1975. This jibes with what I found in my 1975 Eleganza. OTOH, the resistor is NOT listed as part of the 140 amp alternator which was an (apparently rare) option in 1978. Wiah I had one of those!
HTH
Rick Staples, '75 Eleganza, Johnstown, CO
"Advice is a dangerous gift, even from the Wise to the Wise, and all paths may run ill." -Tolkien
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Re: GM Alternator Rebuild [message #365933 is a reply to message #365862] |
Fri, 06 August 2021 21:16  |
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RF_Burns
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Matt,
I dug around in the Regitar and Trans-pro on-line catalogs until I found the style and voltage set-point I wanted. Then I had to order through an auto-electric rebuilder.
They kinda looked at me funny when I told them what I wanted as if to say "what's all this voltage and current stuff you speak of anyway??"
Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC. 1 ton front end
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
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