| [GMCnet] Flooring [message #365808] |
Sun, 01 August 2021 13:56  |
Anonymous
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Has anyone installed cork flooring? Or is tile better for general overall flooring - ’76 Birchaven with rear bath. General usage in Pacific NW.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Flooring [message #365815 is a reply to message #365808] |
Sun, 01 August 2021 16:04  |
boybach
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Used it in combination with foam as carpet underlay/soundproofing. Might work well plus easy to fit if used in combo with carpet tiles.
JWID
Larry
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1977 ex-Palm Beach "Ol' Leaky" 40,000 miles, PO said everything working but forgot the word NOT. Atwood helium fridge, water heater & furnace. SS exhaust system, Onan, Iota Converter, R134A, New fuel lines & heat exchange hoses
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| Re: [GMCnet] Flooring [message #365816 is a reply to message #365815] |
Sun, 01 August 2021 16:13 |
blur911
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boybach wrote on Sun, 01 August 2021 16:04Used it in combination with foam as carpet underlay/soundproofing. Might work well plus easy to fit if used in combo with carpet tiles.
JWID
Larry
I think he means the cork flooring that comes in planks or squares and is an engineered flooring product. I would be interested in this as well, it looks nice and is softer than most products like hardwood or bamboo and other laminates. I just don't know how well it holds up, but I hear it's better than the cheap laminates that can fade and wear badly
Burl Vibert
Kingston, Ontario
1976 GMC 26 foot, Sheridan reno, don't know original model but we call her Roxie
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| Re: [GMCnet] Flooring [message #365852 is a reply to message #365808] |
Wed, 04 August 2021 01:29 |
MidlifeChrysler
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Oddly, I’ve ordered 6mm glue-down cork tiles with a polyurethane finish for *my* ‘76 Royale in the PNW.
No experience with them in an RV application, but they have a lot going for them in other settings that made me take the leap. They are soft underfoot - and the softness stays in forever because of how cork grows. They’re insulative for both heat and sound - and who doesn’t like a quiet coach? Cork is also incredibly durable - Fallingwater has cork floors in the baths, including in the showers (!) and it’s like the only surface in the place that is original. Cork is easy to install - waterborne contact cement will adhere perfectly to the plywood underlayment and you can cut it with a utility knife. The tiles don’t lock like LVT or laminate so it’s way easier to fit around corners and projections. Moulding profiles from Schiluter are available for any thickness of cork you choose.
I am not quite as brave as FLW nor as wealthy as his clients, so I’m doing cork from the horizontal surface of the cockpit step back to the bathroom door, where I’ll transition to Marmoleum (genuine linoleum, which includes cork as an ingredient) with a thinner cork underlayment on the main floor surface (no underlayment on the toilet deck). My reason for doing this is that the cork I want to use isn’t available in a hardoil/wax finish, and as much as I love modern polyurethane finishes, they can’t be touched up as easily as wax. So in the interest of being able to clean as vigorously as any, erm, *situation* could demand, I opted for the Forbo, given how well it performs in hospitals.
Bone-stock ‘76 rear-bath Royale “Paul”, near Seattle. I’m Eric. My long-suffering husband and engineering department is Jon. Harness rebuilt after meltdown. Sanity still rebuilding.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Flooring [message #365857 is a reply to message #365852] |
Wed, 04 August 2021 11:30 |
timthenomad
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MidlifeChrysler
I'd love to hear how easy the Marmoleum goes in. Are you thinking single sheet, glue down, or click tile. Directly onto the plywood? I'd really like to do my whole coach including the stairs, deck, raised front and rear dinette for an as uniform as possible look. But I don't really know how I would incorporate front sound/heat deadening material, or if its even possible to "flash cove" it up the stairs and the 4" dinette bumps.
--tim
Tim Taylor
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Philadelphia PA
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76 Triumph TR6
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| Re: [GMCnet] Flooring [message #365858 is a reply to message #365857] |
Wed, 04 August 2021 13:06 |
MidlifeChrysler
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I’m planning to use glue-down sheet; it can be coved (beautifully) but the minimum bend radius is 1” and they do not recommend contouring it over stairs. I’m going to do a little creative moulding to deal with the bathroom tiers. Forbo can be installed over a roll cork underlayment for insulation purposes.
Bone-stock ‘76 rear-bath Royale “Paul”, near Seattle. I’m Eric. My long-suffering husband and engineering department is Jon. Harness rebuilt after meltdown. Sanity still rebuilding.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Flooring [message #365886 is a reply to message #365808] |
Thu, 05 August 2021 14:53 |
lqqkatjon
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I just installed vinyl planks this spring.
maybe spent $300. I used the mid-grade stuff.
there is endless varieties, you can get it to look like any wood, tile, and a few other things. very easy to work with, and I layed it pretty much over a somewhat not perfect plywood that had a couple patches, a few carridge bolt heads sticking up, and it looked and turned out great. it has been through some heat as I am sure it was well over 100 in the coach on some days this summer, and I will see how it works this winter.
it is waterproof, and seems tough as heck.
there are different grades, buy as high as you can. also ask around as some is more "temperature stable" then others. the stuff I put in my coach I believe was like 10 degrees up to 130. and what that means is it can get hotter or colder, you just don't want to walk on it or use it if it is hotter then 130 or colder then 10.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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| Re: [GMCnet] Flooring [message #365897 is a reply to message #365856] |
Thu, 05 August 2021 21:18 |
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Richard RV
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Larry,
As far as the stain resistance it's about the same as wood - it depends entirely on the condition of the floor finish. Cork would require more frequent refinishing in an RV due to the concentrated traffic. Cork flooring has a number of unique features. It can be sanded with a random orbital sander and finished with polyurethane, or old school waxed. It's good for thermal and noise insulation, anti-microbial, and water resistant not waterproof. It is nowhere near as bulletproof as waterproof vinyl flooring. All that being said, the stuff looks great.
Richard
'77 Birchaven TZE...777;
'76 Palm Beach under construction;
‘76 Edgemont waiting its turn
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| Re: [GMCnet] Flooring [message #365920 is a reply to message #365860] |
Fri, 06 August 2021 16:58 |
MidlifeChrysler
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There’s a step up/pedestal that the toilet sits on, in the rear-bath Royales. I cannot think of any place I would rather have carpet any less.
Bone-stock ‘76 rear-bath Royale “Paul”, near Seattle. I’m Eric. My long-suffering husband and engineering department is Jon. Harness rebuilt after meltdown. Sanity still rebuilding.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Flooring [message #365921 is a reply to message #365860] |
Fri, 06 August 2021 16:59 |
MidlifeChrysler
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There’s a step up/pedestal that the toilet sits on, in the rear-bath Royales. I cannot think of any place I would rather have carpet any less.
Bone-stock ‘76 rear-bath Royale “Paul”, near Seattle. I’m Eric. My long-suffering husband and engineering department is Jon. Harness rebuilt after meltdown. Sanity still rebuilding.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Flooring [message #365923 is a reply to message #365921] |
Fri, 06 August 2021 17:57 |
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Matt Colie
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MidlifeChrysler wrote on Fri, 06 August 2021 17:59There’s a step up/pedestal that the toilet sits on, in the rear-bath Royales. I cannot think of any place I would rather have carpet any less.
Mid,
All of the GMC upfit TZE had a flat sole for the head. I don't know if that step exists in the Birchhavens or others.
This is why I strongly encourage new owners both on the and the other forum to build a adequate sigfile. In spite of outward appearance, not all TZE are the same. (Trust me on this, I have a 73 - 23 and it has many important differences from the other versions of GMC upfit.
So, this being an amazingly supportive and helping community, please - for both forums - build a sigfile that has your real name (so things will be less awkward when we meet), a short about the coach (year model and major mods) and a geographic reference because there might be an old friend nearby that you have yet to meet. You can, but you don't have to change your alias.
In any case, glad you found your way here. If you can make it to a local or and international rally, that would be a thing of great value.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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