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Dash fan has only hi speed [message #364732] Tue, 15 June 2021 18:12 Go to next message
ktcnyc is currently offline  ktcnyc   United States
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Hello - my coach has only hi speed on the heater/ac blower. It has a new fan motor and relay. Nothing happens on lo and medium.
Any guidance will be greatly appreciated


Kevin Cloutier -'77 Eleganza II-455, 6 disk brakes, Edelbrock carb, headers, , resident of NYC and Dingmans Ferry, Pa. '72 MGB-GT & '73 MGB convertible Member GMCMI since 8/20
Re: Dash fan has only hi speed [message #364733 is a reply to message #364732] Tue, 15 June 2021 18:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   Canada
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Kevin,

That means that either the switch or the resistor is bad (maybe both). But the resistor is easier to get to. It is in the left side of the HVAC case and has a multi-wire plug on it. If pulling and pushing that that plug doesn't get it, try measuring resistance between all the terminals and most likely one is open. Those resistors are cheap and real available.

Hope it is not the switch.

Matt


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[GMCnet] Re: Dash fan has only hi speed [message #364734 is a reply to message #364732] Tue, 15 June 2021 19:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Kevin,

The HVAC blower runs, in the lower switch positions, through the resistor
pack mounted in the left side of the HVAC box, beneath the driver-side
hood. In HI, it bypasses that resistor and runs directly on alternator
output voltage. You can see all this clearly on the coach wiring diagram
in the back of the maintenance manual.

Check that resistor pack -- do sometimes fail, though rarely..

Ken H.

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 7:13 PM wrote:

> Hello - my coach has only hi speed on the heater/ac blower. It has a new
> fan motor and relay. Nothing happens on lo and medium.
> Any guidance will be greatly appreciated
> --
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> headers, , resident of NYC and Dingmans Ferry, Pa.
> '72 MGB-GT & '73 MGB convertible
> Member GMCMI since 8/20
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Re: [GMCnet] Re: Dash fan has only hi speed [message #364735 is a reply to message #364734] Tue, 15 June 2021 19:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Another thing to check is the connections at the relay. They sometimes burn open. Look closely at the relay connections / terminals and also the resistor terminals for signs of burning.

Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: Dash fan has only hi speed [message #365606 is a reply to message #364733] Wed, 21 July 2021 13:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ktcnyc is currently offline  ktcnyc   United States
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Hi Folks- Following up on my dash fan - I have a new fan motor, new relay and I just installed a new switch. I pulled the peculiar flash gordon resister gizmo out and cleaned the plug and connection -Still doesn't work. Is there an update on that gizmo and do you know where I would get a new resister pack?

Many Thanks, Kevin


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[GMCnet] Re: Dash fan has only hi speed [message #365613 is a reply to message #365606] Wed, 21 July 2021 17:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Kevin,

You probably took care of this, but just in case: The fan motor gets its
ground via a jumper wire from its case to the body ground, bypassing its
rubber isolation mounts. Those tend to loosen and lose contact. Try using
another jumper wire from bare metal on the motor housing to a known good
ground.

Failing that, it's time to get a test light or multimeter out and start
following the voltage from the fuse, through the switch, etc., etc.

Ken H.

On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 2:59 PM wrote:

> Hi Folks- Following up on my dash fan - I have a new fan motor, new relay
> and I just installed a new switch. I pulled the peculiar flash gordon
> resister gizmo out and cleaned the plug and connection -Still doesn't
> work. Is there an update on that gizmo and do you know where I would get a
> new
> resister pack?
>
> Many Thanks, Kevin
> --
> Kevin Cloutier -'77 Eleganza II-455, 6 disk brakes, Edelbrock carb,
> headers, , resident of NYC and Dingmans Ferry, Pa.
> '72 MGB-GT & '73 MGB convertible
> Member GMCMI since 8/20
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Re: Dash fan has only hi speed [message #365614 is a reply to message #364732] Wed, 21 July 2021 19:49 Go to previous message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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Without a meter, this is getting to be like Facebook advice—- guessing.
All speeds go through the relay. Deenergized it passes the 1, 2, 3, voltage to the motor on the normally closed contacts. Energized (hi and engine running) the relay contacts flip to the normally open contacts and pass alternator voltage to motor. You did not replace the resistor pack. You could inspect and meter each wire coil to pins to confirm some Ohm reading not open. Also the new relay or old resistor may still not be making contact at the old oxidized connectors. I spray all that with Caig D5 before plugging in and sometime you STILL have to wiggle them to get them to work. That’s why GM went to Weatherpak connectors in the years after our coaches. Try the meter Ohm tests on the resistors and then the wiggle method. If that fails you need to meter voltage per schematic source to motor.


John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II

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