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Stainless Fuel Line Size [message #365208] Fri, 02 July 2021 18:44 Go to next message
Tom Katzenberger is currently offline  Tom Katzenberger   United States
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Happy 4th to all! Please fly the FLAG!

Guys,

I am replacing the fuel line and am going back with stainless. I am also installing the Howell Fuel Injection System with electronic ignition in a stock engine. Given this, What are the preferred fuel line sizes?

I would like to come out of the tanks with stainless as well.

I Can't tell you guys thanks enough, but again, thank you all,
Tom K.


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Re: Stainless Fuel Line Size [message #365209 is a reply to message #365208] Fri, 02 July 2021 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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P.S. I am leaning to Ken H.'s suggestion of a duel fuel pump set up.

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[GMCnet] Re: Stainless Fuel Line Size [message #365213 is a reply to message #365209] Fri, 02 July 2021 21:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 4:48 PM wrote:

> P.S. I am leaning to Ken H.'s suggestion of a duel fuel pump set up.
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Re: Stainless Fuel Line Size [message #365223 is a reply to message #365208] Sat, 03 July 2021 09:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Katzenberger is currently offline  Tom Katzenberger   United States
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Thank you Jim. Just checking.

Tom & Oki Katzenberger, Kingsville, Maryland, 1977 23' Birchaven, 455 C.I.D., Micro Level, Howell EBL-EFI Spark Control, Macerator, York Air Compressor, 6 Wheel Disc, Quadra Bag, Onan W/Bovee Ignition
Re: Stainless Fuel Line Size [message #365228 is a reply to message #365208] Sat, 03 July 2021 11:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tom Katzenberger wrote on Fri, 02 July 2021 18:44
Happy 4th to all! Please fly the FLAG!

Guys,

I am replacing the fuel line and am going back with stainless. I am also installing the Howell Fuel Injection System with electronic ignition in a stock engine. Given this, What are the preferred fuel line sizes?

I would like to come out of the tanks with stainless as well.

I Can't tell you guys thanks enough, but again, thank you all,
Tom K.
Tom, I sent you a PM.


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[GMCnet] Re: Stainless Fuel Line Size [message #365248 is a reply to message #365228] Sun, 04 July 2021 21:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stu Rasmussen is currently offline  Stu Rasmussen   United States
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I am curious what are the advantages of stainless fuel line?

I've found stainless beastly to work with - hard to bend, hard to
flare and generally a PITA.

Have you considered using Copper / Nickel line? Easy to work with and
somewhat less expensive than stainless.

JWID

Stu

> Tom Katzenberger wrote on Fri, 02 July 2021 18:44
>> Happy 4th to all! Please fly the FLAG!
>>
>> Guys,
>>
>> I am replacing the fuel line and am going back with stainless. I am
>> also installing the Howell Fuel Injection System with electronic
>> ignition in a
>> stock engine. Given this, What are the preferred fuel line sizes?
>>
>> I would like to come out of the tanks with stainless as well.
>>
>> I Can't tell you guys thanks enough, but again, thank you all,
>> Tom K.


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Re: Stainless Fuel Line Size [message #365257 is a reply to message #365208] Tue, 06 July 2021 06:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Katzenberger is currently offline  Tom Katzenberger   United States
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Stu,

Harder to work with, but once done they are forever. I am restoring A 1977, 23' Birchaven and want to tour the country. I am hoping if I take my time, build it right I will have few problems and more piece of mind. All the tanks are out and the frame is open from one end to the other, so now is the time.

Take care,
Tom


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[GMCnet] Re: Stainless Fuel Line Size [message #365258 is a reply to message #365257] Tue, 06 July 2021 07:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here is the tool to put the bead on the lines, if you want the original style bead.

https://www.grahamtool.com/tubebeadingtool.aspx


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> On Jul 6, 2021, at 07:57, tomkatz3@comcast.net wrote:
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> Stu,
>
> Harder to work with, but once done they are forever. I am restoring A 1977, 23' Birchaven and want to tour the country. I am hoping if I take my time,
> build it right I will have few problems and more piece of mind. All the tanks are out and the frame is open from one end to the other, so now is the
> time.
>
> Take care,
> Tom
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Re: Stainless Fuel Line Size [message #365260 is a reply to message #365257] Tue, 06 July 2021 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tom Katzenberger wrote on Tue, 06 July 2021 07:56
Stu,

Harder to work with, but once done they are forever. I am restoring A 1977, 23' Birchaven and want to tour the country. I am hoping if I take my time, build it right I will have few problems and more piece of mind. All the tanks are out and the frame is open from one end to the other, so now is the time.

Take care,
Tom
Tom,

More than a few years back, I had fuel system troubles. Much was related to failing rubber lines. I redid all the fuel lines that I could with Polyarmor. This was much easier to work that stainless would have been. I happen to know this for a fact because at one time in my widely varied (and somewhat lackluster) working life, I was an instrument fitter in a shipyard (where else?).

Stainless lines can be flared, but the mechanical limits are such that 70° is about all you can do. This is a very different tool than you are used to seeing. This tubing can also be coupled with special compression fittings. These came from either Swagelok or Parker, but there may be other suppliers now.

As you approach this, look up and read "Recommending High T". This is a mod that you really want to do while you are in there.

Matt - do I have to add BTDT?


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Re: Stainless Fuel Line Size [message #365261 is a reply to message #365208] Tue, 06 July 2021 11:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Katzenberger is currently offline  Tom Katzenberger   United States
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Matt,

I was going to use double annealed Stainless steel lines and I am awaiting a 45 Degree flaring tool built for stainless lines.

If I am not successful I will defftnetly look at the other options.

Matt, What does BTDT mean ?

Thank you to everyone for your responses.

Take care,
Tom


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Re: Stainless Fuel Line Size [message #365262 is a reply to message #365208] Tue, 06 July 2021 11:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Katzenberger is currently offline  Tom Katzenberger   United States
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Matt,

I just read about the vent lines. Thanks so much for the heads up and I will definitely incorporate the vent mod in the rebuild!

Thanks again,
Tom K.


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Re: Stainless Fuel Line Size [message #365264 is a reply to message #365262] Tue, 06 July 2021 12:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why not aluminum?
Re: Stainless Fuel Line Size [message #365265 is a reply to message #365264] Tue, 06 July 2021 13:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Katzenberger is currently offline  Tom Katzenberger   United States
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I rear somewhere that some of the new additives negatively affect aluminum.

Tom & Oki Katzenberger, Kingsville, Maryland, 1977 23' Birchaven, 455 C.I.D., Micro Level, Howell EBL-EFI Spark Control, Macerator, York Air Compressor, 6 Wheel Disc, Quadra Bag, Onan W/Bovee Ignition
Re: Stainless Fuel Line Size [message #365269 is a reply to message #365261] Tue, 06 July 2021 16:09 Go to previous message
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Tom,

Been There, Done That

Matt


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