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thigh19 is currently offline  thigh19   United States
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Been reading different threads on this subject, but am not getting an answer I understand, other than I need a new charcoal canister.
Little background. I went to fill my 73 Sequoia, slow fill, gurgle, gurgle, wait, gurgle, gurgle, then the attendant let me know I was putting gas on the ground. Popped the engine cover and I see the charcoal canister with fuel pouring out.
Hence, I need a charcoal canister? From what I’ve read, need a 2 port canister. Anything I should know or am I chasing rabbits?
Thanx
Thom High
73 Sequoia
Vancouver Washington

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Re: Charcoal [message #363340 is a reply to message #363339] Thu, 08 April 2021 21:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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It's more likely that you need a new fuel vapor separator:

https://www.gmcrvparts.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=GM12-001-16

No liquid fuel should be getting past this part to even get to the charcoal canister.


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[GMCnet] Re: HVAC [message #363341 is a reply to message #363339] Thu, 08 April 2021 21:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Find a gas station with nozzles that work right. Yours did not cancel.
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Salem, Oregon

On Thu, Apr 8, 2021, 7:04 PM Thom High wrote:

> Been reading different threads on this subject, but am not getting an
> answer I understand, other than I need a new charcoal canister.
> Little background. I went to fill my 73 Sequoia, slow fill, gurgle,
> gurgle, wait, gurgle, gurgle, then the attendant let me know I was putting
> gas on
> the ground. Popped the engine cover and I see the charcoal canister with
> fuel pouring out.
> Hence, I need a charcoal canister? From what I’ve read, need a 2 port
> canister. Anything I should know or am I chasing rabbits?
> Thanx
> Thom High
> 73 Sequoia
> Vancouver Washington
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[GMCnet] Re: HVAC [message #363342 is a reply to message #363341] Thu, 08 April 2021 22:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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Thom,
The liquid is coming through the vent system.
Your vapor separator is not working , so it must be replaced,
The manifold vacuum purges the carbon canister and remove the gas off the
carbon and brought into the intake manifold.
We supply a lot of the Vapor Separators as they do get old and non
operative.

On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 7:16 PM James Hupy wrote:

> Find a gas station with nozzles that work right. Yours did not cancel.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021, 7:04 PM Thom High wrote:
>
>> Been reading different threads on this subject, but am not getting an
>> answer I understand, other than I need a new charcoal canister.
>> Little background. I went to fill my 73 Sequoia, slow fill, gurgle,
>> gurgle, wait, gurgle, gurgle, then the attendant let me know I was
> putting
>> gas on
>> the ground. Popped the engine cover and I see the charcoal canister with
>> fuel pouring out.
>> Hence, I need a charcoal canister? From what I’ve read, need a 2 port
>> canister. Anything I should know or am I chasing rabbits?
>> Thanx
>> Thom High
>> 73 Sequoia
>> Vancouver Washington
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Re: Charcoal [message #363344 is a reply to message #363339] Fri, 09 April 2021 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Once you replace the separator and surrounding hoses and get the system pulling Purge vacuum through the canister, (study vacuum diagrams) the canister charcoal will purge of liquid and vapor fuel and be good to go again. You probably should change the filter on the bottom of the canister as it may be from the 70s.

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[GMCnet] Re: Charcoal [message #363345 is a reply to message #363344] Fri, 09 April 2021 08:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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I replaced mine with a junk yard option. I figured mine was 40 years old and been flooded multiple times, i doubt the charcoal was any good.
It is the same diameter, but taller. It also vents out the top so it doesnt have that filter on the bottom getting hit by the road spray.

Because Im me I put a valve in the purge line so it only purges at part throttle, based on ported vacuum, like a modern car.

I also hooked the vent line to the clean side of the air cleaner
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Once you replace the separator and surrounding hoses and get the system pulling Purge vacuum through the canister, (study vacuum diagrams) the
canister charcoal will purge of liquid and vapor fuel and be good to go again. You probably should change the filter on the bottom of the canister as
it may be from the 70s.
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Re: [GMCnet] Re: HVAC [message #363349 is a reply to message #363342] Fri, 09 April 2021 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Where is the vapor separator?
Re: Charcoal [message #363351 is a reply to message #363339] Fri, 09 April 2021 12:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Left rear wheel well area.

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[GMCnet] Re: HVAC [message #363352 is a reply to message #363349] Fri, 09 April 2021 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Left side rear wheel well. 10:30 o'clock position as you face it. Several
fuel /purge lines in close proximity. Hard to miss..
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon


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[GMCnet] Re: HVAC [message #363353 is a reply to message #363352] Fri, 09 April 2021 16:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Some early Corvettes used a similar part. Some guys here have used them to
replace failed gmc parts.
Jim Hupy
Salem,Oregon

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021, 10:42 AM James Hupy wrote:

> Left side rear wheel well. 10:30 o'clock position as you face it. Several
> fuel /purge lines in close proximity. Hard to miss..
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
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Re: [GMCnet] Re: HVAC [message #363356 is a reply to message #363353] Fri, 09 April 2021 18:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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James Hupy wrote on Fri, 09 April 2021 16:47
Some early Corvettes used a similar part. Some guys here have used them to
replace failed gmc parts.
Jim Hupy
Salem,Oregon

:

Yeah, it's actually exactly the same part: from 70 to 74 corvette. Just google it, you'll find a source.

As to the charcoal canister, I found my 76 doesn't have one! Discovered that soon after buying it last year when I changed the oil and rechecked it after about 50 miles and found more oil than I put in! So I took off the gas cap and it was under pressure. Checked out the vent system and sure enough, the hose was blocked off and no canister. Haven't had a chance to address that yet so I have to keep the gas cap loose to prevent washing down my cylinders and contaminating the oil.

Cheers.


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[GMCnet] Re: Charcoal [message #363360 is a reply to message #363351] Sat, 10 April 2021 09:33 Go to previous message
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Pass side on my 75...
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Left rear wheel well area.
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