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| Five Stage of grief over the GMC powerplant [message #362660] |
Sat, 06 March 2021 13:35  |
hertfordnc
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Denial- there has to be something better than the stock engine and transmission.
Anger- you old guys are stupid, I WILL DO AN LS SWAP
Bargaining- maybe if i gave up a lot of interior space i could add a transfer case and a Dana 60 front axle mated to a 454.
Depression - this sucks, i hate having an old engine and no overdrive
Acceptance- ultimately, the 455 and TH425 is really the best solution for this great coach. I can always add EFI.
Dave & Ellen Silva
Hertford, NC
76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Five Stage of grief over the GMC powerplant [message #362661 is a reply to message #362660] |
Sat, 06 March 2021 13:54  |
Ken Henderson
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Dave,
Since you obviously need a viable alternative to the 455, consider the
Cadillac 500. Could hardly be an easier swap: Drill new holes for
the front engine mount (or copy mine), bolt to your TH425, and cobble up an
exhaust system. Maybe add EFI. Voila! Ready to run with us big boys!
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, Troy-Bilt APU, etc., etc., etc.
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 2:36 PM dave silva via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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> Denial- there has to be something better than the stock engine and
> transmission.
>
> Anger- you old guys are stupid, I WILL DO AN LS SWAP
>
> Bargaining- maybe if i gave up a lot of interior space i could add a
> transfer case and a Dana 60 front axle mated to a 454.
>
> Depression - this sucks, i hate having an old engine and no overdrive
>
> Acceptance- ultimately, the 455 and TH425 is really the best solution for
> this great coach. I can always add EFI.
>
>
> --
> Dave & Ellen Silva
> Hertford, NC
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> 76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
>
> Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
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> It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Five Stage of grief over the GMC powerplant [message #362662 is a reply to message #362661] |
Sat, 06 March 2021 14:20 |
hertfordnc
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Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 06 March 2021 13:54Dave,
Since you obviously need a viable alternative to the 455, consider the
Cadillac 500. Could hardly be an easier swap: Drill new holes for
the front engine mount (or copy mine), bolt to your TH425, and cobble up an
exhaust system. Maybe add EFI. Voila! Ready to run with us big boys!
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, Troy-Bilt APU, etc., etc., etc.
www.gmcwipersetc.com
No i certainly don't need anything, I have Birch with a 455 and i can do math.
But haven't we been seeing this conversation for years? I posted this on facebook after someone offered yet another non-workable alternative to the TH425.
Dave & Ellen Silva
Hertford, NC
76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Five Stage of grief over the GMC powerplant [message #362664 is a reply to message #362662] |
Sat, 06 March 2021 14:31 |
Ken Henderson
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Did that teach you to steer clear of Facebook? :-)
Ken H.
On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 3:20 PM dave silva via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 06 March 2021 13:54
>> Dave,
>>
>> Since you obviously need a viable alternative to the 455, consider the
>> Cadillac 500. Could hardly be an easier swap: Drill new holes for
>> the front engine mount (or copy mine), bolt to your TH425, and cobble up
> an
>> exhaust system. Maybe add EFI. Voila! Ready to run with us big boys!
>>
>> Ken H.
>> Americus, GA
>> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
>> Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, Troy-Bilt APU, etc., etc., etc.
>> www.gmcwipersetc.com
>
> No i certainly don't need anything, I have Birch with a 455 and i can do
> math.
>
> But haven't we been seeing this conversation for years? I posted this on
> facebook after someone offered yet another non-workable alternative to the
> TH425.
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> --
> Dave & Ellen Silva
> Hertford, NC
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> 76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
>
> Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
>
> It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Five Stage of grief over the GMC powerplant [message #362667 is a reply to message #362666] |
Sat, 06 March 2021 17:35 |
James Hupy
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Was reading something about an east coaster who wasn't an RV er, and from
the sounds of it, will probably never be one.
He rented a Sprinter Van for the weekend for $1700.00 and took off
unprepared. Ran out of potable water, overflowed the holding tank. Ran the
batteries flat, froze his butt off. He didn't have a good time, to say the
least. Don't know the guy, but am familiar with his type. He went through
all 5 stages and wound up dissatisfied and disappointed. Self induced.
Glad it was a Sprinter, and not a GMC. He laid all the blame on the RV.
Guess he never looked in the mirror for who to blame.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Sat, Mar 6, 2021, 2:34 PM dave silva via Gmclist
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> Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 06 March 2021 14:31
>> Did that teach you to steer clear of Facebook? :)
>>
>> Ken H.
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> If we really want to see these things preserved somebody is going to have
> to deal with social media. It's OK, i don't mind. :)
> --
> Dave & Ellen Silva
> Hertford, NC
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> 76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff
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> Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021
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> It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Five Stage of grief over the GMC powerplant [message #362669 is a reply to message #362664] |
Sat, 06 March 2021 20:43 |
Carl S.
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Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 06 March 2021 13:31Did that teach you to steer clear of Facebook? 
Ken H.
Yes, there is quite a bit of bad information and BS going on over there at Facebook. There was even a guy (formerly on this forum) that said he quit the GMC Net due to the "blatant racism", of all things, on this site.
Carl Stouffer
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| Re: [GMCnet] Five Stage of grief over the GMC powerplant [message #362673 is a reply to message #362669] |
Sun, 07 March 2021 03:46 |
Ken Henderson
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Now that one REALLY baffles me. During 23 years here, I can't, for the
life of me, think of a single incident that could, by any stretch of the
imagination, be interpreted that way. Maybe it's my born & bred in the
deep South persona that's insensitive? I hope not. But I do believe that
the current fad of identifying "racism" has become totally absurd.
Ken H.
On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 9:44 PM Carl Stouffer via Gmclist <
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> Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 06 March 2021 13:31
>> Did that teach you to steer clear of Facebook? :)
>>
>> Ken H.
>
> Yes, there is quite a bit of bad information and BS going on over there at
> Facebook. There was even a guy (formerly on this forum) that said he quit
> the GMC Net due to the "blatant racism", of all things, on this site.
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
> Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive,
> Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American
> Eagles,
> Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: Five Stage of grief over the GMC powerplant [message #362678 is a reply to message #362660] |
Sun, 07 March 2021 09:27 |
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Ken, when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Five Stage of grief over the GMC powerplant [message #362679 is a reply to message #362662] |
Sun, 07 March 2021 09:58 |
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[quote title=hertfordnc wrote on Sat, 06 March 2021 14:20]Ken Henderson wrote on Sat, 06 March 2021 13:54Dave,
No i certainly don't need anything, I have Birch with a 455 and i can do math.
But haven't we been seeing this conversation for years? I posted this on facebook after someone offered yet another non-workable alternative to the TH425.
I was actually wondering why the 4T80-E isn't suitable? Can't handle the weight and torque?
Burl Vibert
Kingston, Ontario
1976 GMC 26 foot, Sheridan reno, don't know original model but we call her Roxie
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| Re: [GMCnet] Five Stage of grief over the GMC powerplant [message #362680 is a reply to message #362678] |
Sun, 07 March 2021 09:37 |
Ken Henderson
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Yeah, Johnny, I think you're dead right & Thomas Jefferson would agree.
Ken H.
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 10:28 AM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
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> Ken, when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
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> --johnny
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> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Five Stage of grief over the GMC powerplant [message #362681 is a reply to message #362679] |
Sun, 07 March 2021 11:34 |
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Blatant Racism???? Where in the heck did they come up with that? Flag
wavers? Gun rights supporters? Patriots? Constitutional supporters? God
fearing?? I plead guilty to all of those. But racist? I don't think so. Not
at all the rallies I have attended have I ever heard even the slightest bit
of that. Maybe it is like the "new math". But, like Bob Dylan wrote in
words to a popular song, "Times, they are a'changin".
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021, 7:59 AM Burl Vibert via Gmclist <
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> [quote title=hertfordnc wrote on Sat, 06 March 2021 14:20]Ken Henderson
> wrote on Sat, 06 March 2021 13:54
>> Dave,
>>
>> No i certainly don't need anything, I have Birch with a 455 and i can do
> math.
>>
>> But haven't we been seeing this conversation for years? I posted this
> on facebook after someone offered yet another non-workable alternative to
>> the TH425.
>
> I was actually wondering why the 4T80-E isn't suitable? Can't handle the
> weight and torque?
>
> --
> Burl Vibert
> Kingston, Ontario
> 1976 GMC 26 foot, don't know the model
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| Re: [GMCnet] Five Stage of grief over the GMC powerplant [message #362687 is a reply to message #362681] |
Sun, 07 March 2021 14:02 |
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I cant say that all :
Flag wavers? Gun rights supporters? Patriots? Constitutional supporters? God
fearing??
Are racist.
But all racists are:
Flag wavers? Gun rights supporters? Patriots? Constitutional supporters? God
fearing??
At least they all claim to be but most have no idea what that means.
My take on that like it or leave it.
Out.
[quote title=James Hupy wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 11:34]Blatant Racism???? Where in the heck did they come up with that? Flag
wavers? Gun rights supporters? Patriots? Constitutional supporters? God
fearing?? I plead guilty to all of those. But racist? I don't think so. Not
at all the rallies I have attended have I ever heard even the slightest bit
of that. Maybe it is like the "new math". But, like Bob Dylan wrote in
words to a popular song, "Times, they are a'changin".
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021, 7:59 AM Burl Vibert via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> hertfordnc wrote on Sat, 06 March 2021 14:20Ken Henderson
> wrote on Sat, 06 March 2021 13:54
>> Dave,
>>
>> No i certainly don't need anything, I have Birch with a 455 and i can do
> math.
>>
>> But haven't we been seeing this conversation for years? I posted this
> on facebook after someone offered yet another non-workable alternative to
>> the TH425.
>
> I was actually wondering why the 4T80-E isn't suitable? Can't handle the
> weight and torque?
>
> --
> Burl Vibert
> Kingston, Ontario
> 1976 GMC 26 foot, don't know the model
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Five Stage of grief over the GMC powerplant [message #362689 is a reply to message #362681] |
Sun, 07 March 2021 14:14 |
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James Hupy wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 10:34Blatant Racism???? Where in the heck did they come up with that? Flag
wavers? Gun rights supporters? Patriots? Constitutional supporters? God
fearing?? I plead guilty to all of those. But racist? I don't think so. Not
at all the rallies I have attended have I ever heard even the slightest bit
of that. Maybe it is like the "new math". But, like Bob Dylan wrote in
words to a popular song, "Times, they are a'changin".
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
Yeah, I couldn't believe it either, but I just considered the source (Otterwan)
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Five Stage of grief over the GMC powerplant [message #362692 is a reply to message #362689] |
Sun, 07 March 2021 15:02 |
Ken Henderson
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I think I almost started this, so it's probably my responsibility to say
this "racist" discussion has gone on too long for GMCNet.
Begone foul words!
Ken H.
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 3:15 PM Carl Stouffer via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> James Hupy wrote on Sun, 07 March 2021 10:34
>> Blatant Racism???? Where in the heck did they come up with that? Flag
>> wavers? Gun rights supporters? Patriots? Constitutional supporters? God
>> fearing?? I plead guilty to all of those. But racist? I don't think so.
> Not
>> at all the rallies I have attended have I ever heard even the slightest
> bit
>> of that. Maybe it is like the "new math". But, like Bob Dylan wrote in
>> words to a popular song, "Times, they are a'changin".
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Oregon
>
> Yeah, I couldn't believe it either, but I just considered the source
> (Otterwan)
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
> Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive,
> Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American
> Eagles,
> Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Five Stage of grief over the GMC powerplant [message #362703 is a reply to message #362700] |
Sun, 07 March 2021 19:39 |
Sammy Williams
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As for the thread:
500 cad/EFI/HEI/electric fans if you can afford it: Turbocharge it.
No grief here, just power in spades.
Sammy Williams
On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 7:16 PM Carl Stouffer via Gmclist <
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> No...I think that was me. My bad. :blush:
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
> Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive,
> Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American
> Eagles,
> Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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