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Re: Another Canadian new owner of a GMC Motorhome [message #362582 is a reply to message #362580] |
Mon, 01 March 2021 10:05 |
blur911
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jhbridges wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 07:50The coach information sticker was removed when the inside of the glove box door was painted. It used to be left of the latch. Dave Lenzi rebuilds front hubs, he's in Davison MI (Detroit area). If you don't want to get into removal/replacement of the front bearings, take or ship him the entire hub assembly. It will come back in better than new condition. As to front axle removal, it isn't hard but it is exacting to get the ends out of the hubs. With the control arms at just the correct height and the wheels turned just right, and the inner flange tucked up just right, the stub clears by maybe a quarter inch - but it clears. I fought my left front for a day and then coerced George Zhookoff to come help. I offered him a pair of gloves and he said he wouldn't need them, got in the coach and turned the steering wheel and 'now try it'. Fit right in. The right front is way easier, there's more room. Before you start on the front or the lower engine and stuff do yourself a favor. Remove the inner wheel liners and set them aside for greatly improved access. If you don't already have a Fox and Hound, buy one. It saves a lot of grubbing behind panels and under the dash. mine was under $20 on eBay.
Shelties? Lovely little guys. We're down to one Kuvasz (bred them in the past) and one Border Collie. Two is about the limit in a GMC unless they're lapdogs. I showed Kuvasz out of my 23' for some years. Rear bath Norris with a tub big enough to bathe them.
Welcome to the group, and when you do the Southeast, stop off.
--johnny
Hi Johnny
Thanks for the advice, although I have no idea what a "Fox and Hound" is in your reference. I have to replace both CV boots, but at least I think that's all I have to do to the right front.
I've had shelties for many years, my Ex used to show them and we've had a few champions and all were fantastic dogs. Kuvasz and Border Collies are great dogs too. Gotta love them puppers. In fact, the first one to get a ride in the motorhome was my pup's brother. I picked him up to dogsit while I was on the way home from buying the rig. He loved it.
Burl Vibert
Kingston, Ontario
1976 GMC 26 foot, Sheridan reno, don't know original model but we call her Roxie
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Re: Another Canadian new owner of a GMC Motorhome [message #362583 is a reply to message #362581] |
Mon, 01 March 2021 10:21 |
blur911
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kingd wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 09:30Burl. this is Dave King in Toronto. I have what I believe are the unique pieces of the GMCMH front wheel bearing puller.
If you decide to send your hubs to Dave Lenzi to have him do the bearing you won't need to "borrow" the tool from me and you can
have him do the wheel studs while it is apart. As many have suggested on here adding "zerks" to grease the bearing seems like a
GREAT move as every time you take the bearing apart it reduces the interference fit. The knuckles worked fine on the cars they
were designed for but are really at their limit on the motorhome. Post on here if you want to borrow the puller but I would
suggest you talk to DAVE LENZI. Enjoy your new to you coach.
DAVE KING
Thanks Dave. I think I'll take a few things apart and assess what needs to be rebuilt, maybe talk to Dave Lenzi.
I have no problem buying or making "special tools", I really don't like to borrow, but sometimes cost to purchase is crazy. I see there are two types of bearing tools, the Warner one at $430USD and the "complete" one for $720USD. I assume the more expensive one works a bit better? Which do you have?
Would you be interested in selling me your tool? (with of course, the right to borrow it back)
Burl Vibert
Kingston, Ontario
1976 GMC 26 foot, Sheridan reno, don't know original model but we call her Roxie
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Re: [GMCnet] Another Canadian new owner of a GMC Motorhome [message #362584 is a reply to message #362582] |
Mon, 01 March 2021 10:26 |
James Hupy
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Many of us GMCERS are dog lovers. We have a Pappion that travels with us.
She loves her GMC friends and their coaches as well. At rallies, she makes
the rounds to meet and greet them all. Those few among us who don't like
dogs, just tell her to stay out, and she doesn't go near them again. Dogs
are excellent judges of character, if you dog does not like someone, there
is nearly always a good reason why. She travels very well, for weeks at a
time. Big dogs, are a special set of circumstances in a coach.
I was at a rally with some newbies who had a coach with problems that
needed my assistance. Owners told me they had dog(s) in the coach, but to
just ignore them. When I entered the coach, there were 19 dachshunds that
rushed the door. That MAY HAVE BEEN a scosche too many dogs for my taste (
and smell, too.) Couldn't get out of there soon enough. But it still goes
up in the old memory file.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Mon, Mar 1, 2021, 8:06 AM Burl Vibert via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> jhbridges wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 07:50
>> The coach information sticker was removed when the inside of the glove
> box door was painted. It used to be left of the latch. Dave Lenzi
>> rebuilds front hubs, he's in Davison MI (Detroit area). If you don't
> want to get into removal/replacement of the front bearings, take or ship him
>> the entire hub assembly. It will come back in better than new
> condition. As to front axle removal, it isn't hard but it is exacting to
> get the
>> ends out of the hubs. With the control arms at just the correct height
> and the wheels turned just right, and the inner flange tucked up just right,
>> the stub clears by maybe a quarter inch - but it clears. I fought my
> left front for a day and then coerced George Zhookoff to come help. I
> offered
>> him a pair of gloves and he said he wouldn't need them, got in the coach
> and turned the steering wheel and 'now try it'. Fit right in. The right
>> front is way easier, there's more room. Before you start on the front
> or the lower engine and stuff do yourself a favor. Remove the inner wheel
>> liners and set them aside for greatly improved access. If you don't
> already have a Fox and Hound, buy one. It saves a lot of grubbing behind
>> panels and under the dash. mine was under $20 on eBay.
>>
>> Shelties? Lovely little guys. We're down to one Kuvasz (bred them in
> the past) and one Border Collie. Two is about the limit in a GMC unless
>> they're lapdogs. I showed Kuvasz out of my 23' for some years. Rear
> bath Norris with a tub big enough to bathe them.
>>
>> Welcome to the group, and when you do the Southeast, stop off.
>>
>> --johnny
>
> Hi Johnny
> Thanks for the advice, although I have no idea what a "Fox and Hound" is
> in your reference. I have to replace both CV boots, but at least I think
> that's all I have to do to the right front.
>
> I've had shelties for many years, my Ex used to show them and we've had a
> few champions and all were fantastic dogs. Kuvasz and Border Collies are
> great dogs too. Gotta love them puppers. In fact, the first one to get a
> ride in the motorhome was my pup's brother. I picked him up to dogsit while
> I was on the way home from buying the rig. He loved it.
> --
> Burl Vibert
> Kingston, Ontario
> 1976 GMC 26 foot, don't know the model
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Re: Another Canadian new owner of a GMC Motorhome [message #362588 is a reply to message #361154] |
Mon, 01 March 2021 16:17 |
Al Hamilton
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Burl,
Located about 60 kms east of you is a GMC owner who has a bearing puller based on Tom Warner's system and a front knuckle guide for drilling to fit grease fittings, if you want to borrow them after talking to Dave Lenzi let me know.
Also we have a GMC club as others have mentioned with members mainly in southern Ontario and northern New York that you should consider joining.
Al Hamilton,
76 Eleganza II,
Heart of the 1000 Islands, Ontario
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Re: Another Canadian new owner of a GMC Motorhome [message #362596 is a reply to message #362588] |
Mon, 01 March 2021 19:38 |
blur911
Messages: 166 Registered: December 2020 Location: Kingston, Ontario
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Al Hamilton wrote on Mon, 01 March 2021 16:17Burl,
Located about 60 kms east of you is a GMC owner who has a bearing puller based on Tom Warner's system and a front knuckle guide for drilling to fit grease fittings, if you want to borrow them after talking to Dave Lenzi let me know.
Also we have a GMC club as others have mentioned with members mainly in southern Ontario and northern New York that you should consider joining.
Hi Al
That's fantastic news. I'm looking into joining the Heritage Cruisers. I've been a longtime member (and occasional executive member) of the local CASC club (Canadian equivalent of SCCA), I know the value of belonging to some clubs.
I'll send you an email off the forum.
Burl Vibert
Kingston, Ontario
1976 GMC 26 foot, Sheridan reno, don't know original model but we call her Roxie
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Re: Another Canadian new owner of a GMC Motorhome [message #362603 is a reply to message #362596] |
Mon, 01 March 2021 22:51 |
kingd
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Burl, I think the difference in price is as I got it the Tom Warner tool needs some OTC (tool company)
additional parts to function. Sounds like there may be a tool closer to you.
Funny about CASC. I'm the Regional Chief Scrutineer for CASC.
One of my Scrutineers lives in Kingston. He races a red MGB in Vintage.
DAVE KING
lurker, wannabe
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Re: Another Canadian new owner of a GMC Motorhome [message #362616 is a reply to message #362614] |
Tue, 02 March 2021 17:07 |
blur911
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jhbridges wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 14:13Fox and Hound, also called a Hare and Hound. Noise injector and a hand held amplifier. Used to trace unaccessable wires like many in your coach.
If that url strikes you as a bit long, just search eBay for 'wire tracer'.
--johnny
Oh, ok. I have one, just never heard it called that. Must be a US/Canadian thing.
Tell me, do you use "wire-nuts" or "Marrettes"?
Burl Vibert
Kingston, Ontario
1976 GMC 26 foot, Sheridan reno, don't know original model but we call her Roxie
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Re: Another Canadian new owner of a GMC Motorhome [message #362619 is a reply to message #362617] |
Tue, 02 March 2021 18:23 |
blur911
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Matt Colie wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 17:39blur911 wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 18:07Oh, ok. I have one, just never heard it called that. Must be a US/Canadian thing.
Tell me, do you use "wire-nuts" or "Marrettes"?
Burl,
Marrettes is a trade name that never got any penetration into the US market. The only reason I know about it is because where I lived in Maine for a time, half of our hardware came over from New Brunswick.
Matt
That's what I mean. The first time an American engineer asked me for a wire-nut, he couldn't believe I'd never heard of them.
Of course, he had never heard of Marrettes, which is what everyone calls them here.
I think Fox & Hound are trademark names owned by Triplett, which makes electrical test equipment. I guess same idea as a hi-pot insulation tester being called a "Megger".
Burl Vibert
Kingston, Ontario
1976 GMC 26 foot, Sheridan reno, don't know original model but we call her Roxie
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Re: Another Canadian new owner of a GMC Motorhome [message #362624 is a reply to message #362619] |
Wed, 03 March 2021 09:12 |
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Matt Colie
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blur911 wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 19:23Matt Colie wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 17:39blur911 wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 18:07Oh, ok. I have one, just never heard it called that. Must be a US/Canadian thing.
Tell me, do you use "wire-nuts" or "Marrettes"?
Burl,
Marrettes is a trade name that never got any penetration into the US market. The only reason I know about it is because where I lived in Maine for a time, half of our hardware came over from New Brunswick.
Matt
That's what I mean. The first time an American engineer asked me for a wire-nut, he couldn't believe I'd never heard of them.
Of course, he had never heard of Marrettes, which is what everyone calls them here.
I think Fox & Hound are trademark names owned by Triplett, which makes electrical test equipment. I guess same idea as a hi-pot insulation tester being called a "Megger".
Burl,
This is not just a border issue. One can change localities in the US and then not be understood at all. While between jobs here in Michigan, I worked in refrigeration for a short time. I was a continual source of amusement that the local refrigeration parts house. Then, not just because of location, but also age. As this was work I had done in college, some of the things I went looking for were either out of date terms or now totally illegal.
One of my favorites between north and south was the southern use of "Cut off the light". I kept thinking I should get a saw.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: [GMCnet] Another Canadian new owner of a GMC Motorhome [message #362628 is a reply to message #362624] |
Wed, 03 March 2021 10:54 |
James Hupy
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My wife and I were awake in bed early this morning, and a similar
discussion occured.
I worked in the woods right after graduation from high school. I
worked as a choker setter, on a high lead show on a 6 lead high wire. Rode
to the job in a "crummy". Used a "talkie-tooter" to signal the donkey
operator, or "monkey" if you prefer. Confused yet? One day that summer, we
were "hoot owling" and got home about 2:00 pm. All the older loggers got
off the crummy, and headed for the watering hole (tavern) I was too young
to go in a tavern, so I watched as they all walked away from me. Some
limped, some had one shoulder lower than the other, some with big creases
in their skulls. At that moment, it occured to me that I was looking at
myself a few years into the future. So, I sold my "corked boots" "tin
pants" and "tin hat" and quit the woods.
I then went to work as a laborer on a construction crew building
hydroelectric dams on the Tilton River, but that is a whole different
story. Another time, perhaps.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 7:13 AM Matt Colie via Gmclist
wrote:
> blur911 wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 19:23
>> Matt Colie wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 17:39
>>> blur911 wrote on Tue, 02 March 2021 18:07
>>>> Oh, ok. I have one, just never heard it called that. Must be a
> US/Canadian thing.
>>>> Tell me, do you use "wire-nuts" or "Marrettes"?
>>>
>>> Burl,
>>>
>>> Marrettes is a trade name that never got any penetration into the US
> market. The only reason I know about it is because where I lived in
>>> Maine for a time, half of our hardware came over from New Brunswick.
>>>
>>> Matt
>>
>> That's what I mean. The first time an American engineer asked me for a
> wire-nut, he couldn't believe I'd never heard of them.
>> Of course, he had never heard of Marrettes, which is what everyone calls
> them here.
>> I think Fox & Hound are trademark names owned by Triplett, which makes
> electrical test equipment. I guess same idea as a hi-pot insulation tester
>> being called a "Megger".
>
> Burl,
>
> This is not just a border issue. One can change localities in the US and
> then not be understood at all. While between jobs here in Michigan, I
> worked in refrigeration for a short time. I was a continual source of
> amusement that the local refrigeration parts house. Then, not just because
> of
> location, but also age. As this was work I had done in college, some of
> the things I went looking for were either out of date terms or now totally
> illegal.
>
> One of my favorites between north and south was the southern use of "Cut
> off the light". I kept thinking I should get a saw.
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL,
> GMCES
> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum
> Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: Another Canadian new owner of a GMC Motorhome [message #362636 is a reply to message #361154] |
Thu, 04 March 2021 07:43 |
jhbridges
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Every profession and many geographic areas have their own slang. Used to ask Boss to ask Top to have someone on the steel take a face picture.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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