| Air Bag Equivalents? [message #361442] |
Mon, 04 January 2021 11:05  |
boybach
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I was looking at a couple of replacement air suspension systems that use the Firestone W01-358-9294 airbag and ran across a list of equivalent parts produced by other manufacturers.
Any issues/pitfalls or experience with these other products and do they fit the Sully system?
AUTOMANN 1DK20F-9294
CONITECH AS2924
FIRESTONE STYLE 1T15LP-5
FLEETPRIDE AS9294
GOODYEAR 1R11-915
TAURUS 6378
TRIANGLE AS-8423
TRP AS92940
Larry
Larry - Victoria BC -
1977 ex-Palm Beach "Ol' Leaky" 40,000 miles, PO said everything working but forgot the word NOT. Atwood helium fridge, water heater & furnace. SS exhaust system, Onan, Iota Converter, R134A, New fuel lines & heat exchange hoses
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| Re: Air Bag Equivalents? [message #361444 is a reply to message #361442] |
Mon, 04 January 2021 12:00  |
boybach
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I looked a little further into this and it looks like the dimensions of some of the "equivalents" might cause problems, the main quality unit I looked at was the ContiTech AS9294 but the diameter is almost 11" compared the the Firestone at 9-1/2", so I guess that's a hard NO.
Larry
Larry - Victoria BC -
1977 ex-Palm Beach "Ol' Leaky" 40,000 miles, PO said everything working but forgot the word NOT. Atwood helium fridge, water heater & furnace. SS exhaust system, Onan, Iota Converter, R134A, New fuel lines & heat exchange hoses
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| Re: [GMCnet] Air Bag Equivalents? [message #361445 is a reply to message #361442] |
Mon, 04 January 2021 11:35 |
sgltrac
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Proceed with caution when straying from the FI9294 airbag on the Sullybilt
GMC suspension kit. The fact that the manufacturer or retailer of bag X
states that bag X is compatible with the 9294 but at a lower cost
is no assurance that you will not have fitment issues. Different airbags
built for the same application can have different dimensions which will not
impact their fitment on a truck trailer where clearances are huge but can
on a GMC where the clearances are much tighter. A Triangle airbag which is
a “direct replacement” for the 9294 has an inflated diameter 1/2” greater
than the 9294. This can cause clearance problems to the wheel well of the
GMC. If you are considering a less costly substitute to the 9294 on your
Sullybilt kit I recommend you install the kit on Bothell bogies less the
bag and measure to the inside of the wheel well from a straight edge placed
across the two plates. You will need at least 3/4-1” to clear a triangle
bag. The others, who knows? Is it really worth the gamble to save $100?
That is a personal choice.
Sully
Bellevue wa
On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 9:06 AM twlldeen--- via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> I was looking at a couple of replacement air suspension systems that use
> the Firestone W01-358-9294 airbag and ran across a list of equivalent parts
> produced by other manufacturers.
>
> Any issues/pitfalls or experience with these other products and do they
> fit the Sully system?
>
> AUTOMANN 1DK20F-9294
> CONITECH AS2924
> FIRESTONE STYLE 1T15LP-5
> FLEETPRIDE AS9294
> GOODYEAR 1R11-915
> TAURUS 6378
> TRIANGLE AS-8423
> TRP AS92940
>
> Larry
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> Larry - Victoria BC -
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> 1977 Palm Beach - 39,000 original miles so far
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77 Royale basket case.
Future motorhome land speed record holder(bucket list)
Seattle, Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Air Bag Equivalents? [message #361446 is a reply to message #361445] |
Mon, 04 January 2021 12:08 |
boybach
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Thanks a lot Sully, I can see the clearance issues etc so yes the Firestone 9294 is the one to use.
Larry
Larry - Victoria BC -
1977 ex-Palm Beach "Ol' Leaky" 40,000 miles, PO said everything working but forgot the word NOT. Atwood helium fridge, water heater & furnace. SS exhaust system, Onan, Iota Converter, R134A, New fuel lines & heat exchange hoses
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| Re: [GMCnet] Air Bag Equivalents? [message #361459 is a reply to message #361446] |
Mon, 04 January 2021 14:01 |
Bruce Hart
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I am under the impression that Migual uses the Contitech As9294. I found
this on a coach he had maintained and helped for an individual now living
in Colorado.
On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 11:09 AM twlldeen--- via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Thanks a lot Sully, I can see the clearance issues etc so yes the
> Firestone 9294 is the one to use.
>
> Larry
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> Larry - Victoria BC -
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> 1977 Palm Beach - 39,000 original miles so far
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| Re: Air Bag Equivalents? [message #361525 is a reply to message #361442] |
Thu, 07 January 2021 00:03 |
boybach
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I just had a look at the Automann AB1DK20F-9294 bag which appears to be the exact same size as a Firestone W01-358-9294 however it inflates to 10.8" rather than the 9.12" the firestone does ..anyone running these?
The reason I ask is the Firestone bags are only available from a couple of suppliers and pretty pricey these days - in Canadian$ over $300 apiece  Can't find a Canadian supplier either - any sources?
Larry
Larry - Victoria BC -
1977 ex-Palm Beach "Ol' Leaky" 40,000 miles, PO said everything working but forgot the word NOT. Atwood helium fridge, water heater & furnace. SS exhaust system, Onan, Iota Converter, R134A, New fuel lines & heat exchange hoses
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