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| heater hose for water heater [message #361287] |
Thu, 31 December 2020 07:53  |
lqqkatjon
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I am in process of putting together a 76-78 original water heater into my 75. my square atwood failed a few years ago, and I went and installed an on-demand behind the fridge. Even though that has worked, it has some issues that I am not happy with. I have an issue with the quick burst of cold water when shutting on and off shower, and it needs a little more flow to kick in, so family tends to use more water then needed. it is also out in the elements behind the fridge for below freezing use. So I sourced a used water heater, and now I picked up a stainless tank, so I have everything swapped over and pretty much ready to install. (springtime project as coach is in storage).
so I am going to replace all the heater hoses, and I was wondering if there is a brand or part# that people have used and are happy with. I know it is 5/8" heater hose, and I see I can get 50' roll of the stuff pretty easy. but is there a brand that is tougher/more quality? I have bought some heater hose at store sometimes, and some folds over when you try to bend it, other stuff is more solid. I also would guess I need to be careful on OD as it still has to go through those holes in the body to get from under the coach up into the bathroom.
I see someone mentioning silicone hose, but I always worry about that too, because I have seen some really cheap silicone hoses too. so hard to tell what to buy.
I am looking at gates, as that is what I would think is the name brand hose?? Gates 28401 Heater Hose...
also length, I would guess a person needs about 50' right?
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: heater hose for water heater [message #361288 is a reply to message #361287] |
Thu, 31 December 2020 08:43  |
Carl S.
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Jon,
I replaced mine about 10 or 11 years ago (it's probably time to do it again) and used the better part of a 50' roll of whatever brand the premium auto parts store sold me. I think it might have been Goodyear, Gates, or maybe Dayco. Anyway, it has lasted and I have had zero problems with it.
If you have a good parts house that you deal with, I would trust their recommendation.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: heater hose for water heater [message #361292 is a reply to message #361287] |
Thu, 31 December 2020 09:48 |
JohnL455
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Location: Woodstock, IL
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No silicone for me. Extremely poor tear resistance and require special clamps to not start the tear process. The oil fill is a different story as oil and fumes attack the rubber. Many coaches have never had the long hoses to the rear replaced. Not a good idea, but a testimony.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: heater hose for water heater [message #361295 is a reply to message #361287] |
Thu, 31 December 2020 10:48 |
JohnL455
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The police package Caprice cars included silicone hoses, but special clamps. Less likely to burst during pursuit as less aging issues.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: heater hose for water heater [message #361296 is a reply to message #361287] |
Thu, 31 December 2020 10:51 |
JohnL455
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You want the electro-chemical resistant lined hose. Once coolant penetrates the inner layer it degrades the cord layer and will visibly wick out the cord ends. It’s then past due for replacement. .
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: heater hose for water heater [message #361309 is a reply to message #361287] |
Thu, 31 December 2020 13:30 |
Hal StClair
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I have had great luck with Gates green strip hose. I little more money but I have some that's 20 years old and still going strong. I'm not much on the silicone for a number of reasons; special clamps, and permeability being among them, not to mention the cost. Even with the correct clamps they seem to need attention occasionally. Just my way of thinking, Hal
"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind, except you happen to be insane."
1977 Royale 101348,
1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
Rio Rancho, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] heater hose for water heater [message #361318 is a reply to message #361309] |
Thu, 31 December 2020 17:47 |
jimk
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Your wasting money on the exotic hose unless your going to use it for 40
years,
A good brand is more than you need.
ALso keep in mind NOT to pull the old hose out as you'll have a time puttin
in the new.
Connect the new to the old with good duct tape and pull the new through.
On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 11:31 AM Hal StClair via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> I have had great luck with Gates green strip hose. I little more money but
> I have some that's 20 years old and still going strong. I'm not much on the
> silicone for a number of reasons; special clamps, and permeability being
> among them, not to mention the cost. Even with the correct clamps they seem
> to need attention occasionally. Just my way of thinking, Hal
> --
> "I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own
> mind, except you happen to be insane."
>
> 1977 Royale 101348,
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> 1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
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> 1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
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> Rio Rancho, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] heater hose for water heater [message #361323 is a reply to message #361318] |
Thu, 31 December 2020 20:19 |
stu@97381.com, Emery
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I drilled holes about 1/2 from the end of the end and also in the new hose. I used a loop of wire to connect the hoses together and pulled from the top. Worked well.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Dec 31, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Jim Kanomata via Gmclist wrote:
>
> Your wasting money on the exotic hose unless your going to use it for 40
> years,
> A good brand is more than you need.
> ALso keep in mind NOT to pull the old hose out as you'll have a time puttin
> in the new.
> Connect the new to the old with good duct tape and pull the new through.
>
>> On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 11:31 AM Hal StClair via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I have had great luck with Gates green strip hose. I little more money but
>> I have some that's 20 years old and still going strong. I'm not much on the
>> silicone for a number of reasons; special clamps, and permeability being
>> among them, not to mention the cost. Even with the correct clamps they seem
>> to need attention occasionally. Just my way of thinking, Hal
>> --
>> "I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own
>> mind, except you happen to be insane."
>>
>> 1977 Royale 101348,
>>
>> 1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
>>
>>
>>
>> 1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
>>
>> Rio Rancho, NM
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
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> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
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> 1-800-752-7502
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| Re: heater hose for water heater [message #361324 is a reply to message #361287] |
Thu, 31 December 2020 20:59 |
C Boyd
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Sir, All Big trucks come with silicone hose from factory and is warrantied for 750,000 miles. I get it from EBay in 50’ coil and the special stainless clamps that have the inside collar that covers the gear holes I get from A-Z supply. You do need to pay attention to where the hose goes in the floor especially in the 73 & 74s. They have been known to have medal S s thru the floor and will not pull thru. It is inside the wall and really isn’t real hard to unscrew the wall and pry it out enough to get. New hoses clamped on. Sit on the floor and push wall back in with your feet or porta power and replace screws. I have used this procedure on a few walls between door and fridge that didn’t fit so good.
lqqkatjon wrote on Thu, 31 December 2020 08:53I am in process of putting together a 76-78 original water heater into my 75. my square atwood failed a few years ago, and I went and installed an on-demand behind the fridge. Even though that has worked, it has some issues that I am not happy with. I have an issue with the quick burst of cold water when shutting on and off shower, and it needs a little more flow to kick in, so family tends to use more water then needed. it is also out in the elements behind the fridge for below freezing use. So I sourced a used water heater, and now I picked up a stainless tank, so I have everything swapped over and pretty much ready to install. (springtime project as coach is in storage).
so I am going to replace all the heater hoses, and I was wondering if there is a brand or part# that people have used and are happy with. I know it is 5/8" heater hose, and I see I can get 50' roll of the stuff pretty easy. but is there a brand that is tougher/more quality? I have bought some heater hose at store sometimes, and some folds over when you try to bend it, other stuff is more solid. I also would guess I need to be careful on OD as it still has to go through those holes in the body to get from under the coach up into the bathroom.
I see someone mentioning silicone hose, but I always worry about that too, because I have seen some really cheap silicone hoses too. so hard to tell what to buy.
I am looking at gates, as that is what I would think is the name brand hose?? Gates 28401 Heater Hose...
also length, I would guess a person needs about 50' right?
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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