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Interior window trim [message #360666] Wed, 09 December 2020 20:55 Go to next message
Green machine is currently offline  Green machine   Canada
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Hello gang,

One of these days I'll figure out how to post a photo in here. The work I've done is pretty extensive starting from a gutted coach. I'm soon going to have to change my signature from "gutted" to "getting there".

Anyway, I'm now on to panelling the walls. I've seen some posts regarding products used for around the window frames. Trim-Lok seems to be a popular choice but it's difficult to acquire up here in the great white north - and expensive. I don't mind spending the bucks if the product is exactly what I want but I'm unsure of the sizing and fitment as I don't have the factory stuff to compare too.

So question #1. Did the original trim fit inside the window channel, or just around the wall material? This will affect the grip width size I need to order.

Question #2. Disregarding grip width; do we know of any products that have a similar leg length? Most I see are around 1/2" and it looks like factory is closer to 1". I feel like 1/2" might not look quite right.

Oh, and to get extra picky, the wife wants white trim. Confused I could paint if need be.

Thanks in advance as always!

Stay safe.

Shawn


Shawn Harris North Vancouver, Canada 1977 Palm Beach 403
Re: [GMCnet] Interior window trim [message #360668 is a reply to message #360666] Wed, 09 December 2020 21:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stu@97381.com, Emery  is currently offline  stu@97381.com, Emery   United States
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The aluminum around the window has a groove that the original trim’s tap fit into to hold it in place.
I think Jim Kanomata of Applied GMC might have some original trim available.

Emery Stora

> On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:56 PM, Shawn Harris via Gmclist wrote:
>
> Hello gang,
>
> One of these days I'll figure out how to post a photo in here. The work I've done is pretty extensive starting from a gutted coach. I'm soon going to
> have to change my signature from "gutted" to "getting there".
>
> Anyway, I'm now on to panelling the walls. I've seen some posts regarding products used for around the window frames. Trim-Lok seems to be a popular
> choice but it's difficult to acquire up here in the great white north - and expensive. I don't mind spending the bucks if the product is exactly what
> I want but I'm unsure of the sizing and fitment as I don't have the factory stuff to compare too.
>
> So question #1. Did the original trim fit inside the window channel, or just around the wall material? This will affect the grip width size I need to
> order.
>
> Question #2. Disregarding grip width; do we know of any products that have a similar leg length? Most I see are around 1/2" and it looks like factory
> is closer to 1". I feel like 1/2" might not look quite right.
>
> Oh, and to get extra picky, the wife wants white trim. :? I could paint if need be.
>
> Thanks in advance as always!
>
> Stay safe.
>
> Shawn
> --
> Shawn Harris
> North Vancouver,
> Canada
> 1977 Palm Beach 403
>
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Re: Interior window trim [message #360669 is a reply to message #360666] Wed, 09 December 2020 21:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I did notice a very shallow groove. Maybe 1/16-1/8 deep. Good to know - I had hoped to tie the window frame and wall panelling together.

Shawn Harris North Vancouver, Canada 1977 Palm Beach 403
Re: Interior window trim [message #360698 is a reply to message #360666] Thu, 10 December 2020 22:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well I called today. $6 USD per foot. $6 x 75 feet is $450 plus $50 for shipping I'm sure. That makes $500 plus duties, probably $100 at least. Thats $600. After exchange, we are getting close to $900. That's a hard pass for me.

Anyone have any other alternatives??


Shawn Harris North Vancouver, Canada 1977 Palm Beach 403
Re: [GMCnet] Interior window trim [message #360699 is a reply to message #360698] Fri, 11 December 2020 02:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hasn't the new replacement for NAFTA eliminated
cross-border shipments from import duties?

D C "Mac" Macdonald
Amateur Radio K2GKK
Since 30 November '53
USAF and FAA, Retired
Member GMCMI & Classics
Oklahoma City, OK
"The Money Pit"
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'76 ex-Palm Beach
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Well I called today. $6 USD per foot. $6 x 75 feet is $450 plus $50
for shipping I'm sure. That makes $500 plus duties, probably $100
at least. That's $600. After exchange, we are getting close to $900.
That's a hard pass for me.

Anyone have any other alternatives??
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North Vancouver,
Canada
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Re: [GMCnet] Interior window trim [message #360700 is a reply to message #360698] Fri, 11 December 2020 05:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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IMHO, you need valences around your windows to keep their coverings tight
against the outer walls. Those conceal the edges of the wall panelling
enough that I didn't worry about finishing them -- and haven't regretted it
for 22 years.

Ken H.


On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 11:29 PM Shawn Harris via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> Well I called today. $6 USD per foot. $6 x 75 feet is $450 plus $50 for
> shipping I'm sure. That makes $500 plus duties, probably $100 at least.
> Thats
> $600. After exchange, we are getting close to $900. That's a hard pass for
> me.
>
> Anyone have any other alternatives??
> --
> Shawn Harris
> North Vancouver,
> Canada
> 1977 Palm Beach 403
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Interior window trim [message #360702 is a reply to message #360699] Fri, 11 December 2020 08:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not to a large degree... When importing to Canada, these are the new limits:

From: https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/services/cusma-aceum/lvs-efv-eng.html

For a shipment imported by mail, the following still applies:

* $20 and under: duty and tax free when imported from any country
* Above $20: duties and taxes apply when imported from any country,
including the US and Mexico

For a shipment imported by
courier^
:

* Imported from any country (other than the US and Mexico)
o Up to $20: duty and tax free
o Above $20: duties and taxes apply, *excluding* the US and Mexico
* Imported from the US and Mexico
o Up to $40: duty and tax free
o Above $40 to $150: duty free, but taxes still apply
o Above $150: duties and taxes apply

Many people refer to "duty", when quite often only import sales tax is
due. But in either case - the carrier may charge a brokerage fee (which
can be substantial!)...

Rob
Victoria, BC
76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath

On 2020-12-11 12:43 a.m., D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist wrote:
> Hasn't the new replacement for NAFTA eliminated
> cross-border shipments from import duties?
>
> D C "Mac" Macdonald
> Amateur Radio K2GKK
> Since 30 November '53
> USAF and FAA, Retired
> Member GMCMI & Classics
> Oklahoma City, OK
> "The Money Pit"
> TZE166V101966
> '76 ex-Palm Beach
> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Shawn Harris via Gmclist
> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 22:28
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Cc: Shawn Harris
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Interior window trim
>
> Well I called today. $6 USD per foot. $6 x 75 feet is $450 plus $50
> for shipping I'm sure. That makes $500 plus duties, probably $100
> at least. That's $600. After exchange, we are getting close to $900.
> That's a hard pass for me.
>
> Anyone have any other alternatives??
> --
> Shawn Harris
> North Vancouver,
> Canada
> 1977 Palm Beach 403

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Rob - Victoria, BC - 76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath
Re: [GMCnet] Interior window trim [message #360704 is a reply to message #360702] Fri, 11 December 2020 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
stu@97381.com, Emery  is currently offline  stu@97381.com, Emery   United States
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You say you called today. Who did you call?
You should be able to find original trim from someone parting out a GMC.
As to import duties isn’t there an exemption for antique vehicle parts?

Emery Stora

> On Dec 11, 2020, at 7:50 AM, Rob via Gmclist wrote:
>
> Not to a large degree... When importing to Canada, these are the new limits:
>
> From: https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/services/cusma-aceum/lvs-efv-eng.html
>
> For a shipment imported by mail, the following still applies:
>
> * $20 and under: duty and tax free when imported from any country
> * Above $20: duties and taxes apply when imported from any country,
> including the US and Mexico
>
> For a shipment imported by courier^ :
>
> * Imported from any country (other than the US and Mexico)
> o Up to $20: duty and tax free
> o Above $20: duties and taxes apply, *excluding* the US and Mexico
> * Imported from the US and Mexico
> o Up to $40: duty and tax free
> o Above $40 to $150: duty free, but taxes still apply
> o Above $150: duties and taxes apply
>
> Many people refer to "duty", when quite often only import sales tax is due. But in either case - the carrier may charge a brokerage fee (which can be substantial!)...
>
> Rob
> Victoria, BC
> 76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath
>
>> On 2020-12-11 12:43 a.m., D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist wrote:
>> Hasn't the new replacement for NAFTA eliminated
>> cross-border shipments from import duties?
>>
>> D C "Mac" Macdonald
>> Amateur Radio K2GKK
>> Since 30 November '53
>> USAF and FAA, Retired
>> Member GMCMI & Classics
>> Oklahoma City, OK
>> "The Money Pit"
>> TZE166V101966
>> '76 ex-Palm Beach
>> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Gmclist on behalf of Shawn Harris via Gmclist
>> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 22:28
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Cc: Shawn Harris
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Interior window trim
>>
>> Well I called today. $6 USD per foot. $6 x 75 feet is $450 plus $50
>> for shipping I'm sure. That makes $500 plus duties, probably $100
>> at least. That's $600. After exchange, we are getting close to $900.
>> That's a hard pass for me.
>>
>> Anyone have any other alternatives??
>> --
>> Shawn Harris
>> North Vancouver,
>> Canada
>> 1977 Palm Beach 403
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Interior window trim [message #360706 is a reply to message #360704] Fri, 11 December 2020 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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For that much, you can drive down to Fremont, pick up the trim, and drive
home.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 7:59 AM Emery Stora via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> You say you called today. Who did you call?
> You should be able to find original trim from someone parting out a GMC.
> As to import duties isn’t there an exemption for antique vehicle parts?
>
> Emery Stora
>
>> On Dec 11, 2020, at 7:50 AM, Rob via Gmclist
> wrote:
>>
>> Not to a large degree... When importing to Canada, these are the new
> limits:
>>
>> From: https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/services/cusma-aceum/lvs-efv-eng.html
>>
>> For a shipment imported by mail, the following still applies:
>>
>> * $20 and under: duty and tax free when imported from any country
>> * Above $20: duties and taxes apply when imported from any country,
>> including the US and Mexico
>>
>> For a shipment imported by courier^ https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/services/cusma-aceum/lvs-efv-eng.html#fn1> :
>>
>> * Imported from any country (other than the US and Mexico)
>> o Up to $20: duty and tax free
>> o Above $20: duties and taxes apply, *excluding* the US and Mexico
>> * Imported from the US and Mexico
>> o Up to $40: duty and tax free
>> o Above $40 to $150: duty free, but taxes still apply
>> o Above $150: duties and taxes apply
>>
>> Many people refer to "duty", when quite often only import sales tax is
> due. But in either case - the carrier may charge a brokerage fee (which can
> be substantial!)...
>>
>> Rob
>> Victoria, BC
>> 76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath
>>
>>> On 2020-12-11 12:43 a.m., D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist wrote:
>>> Hasn't the new replacement for NAFTA eliminated
>>> cross-border shipments from import duties?
>>>
>>> D C "Mac" Macdonald
>>> Amateur Radio K2GKK
>>> Since 30 November '53
>>> USAF and FAA, Retired
>>> Member GMCMI & Classics
>>> Oklahoma City, OK
>>> "The Money Pit"
>>> TZE166V101966
>>> '76 ex-Palm Beach
>>> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Gmclist on behalf of Shawn
> Harris via Gmclist
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 22:28
>>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>>> Cc: Shawn Harris
>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Interior window trim
>>>
>>> Well I called today. $6 USD per foot. $6 x 75 feet is $450 plus $50
>>> for shipping I'm sure. That makes $500 plus duties, probably $100
>>> at least. That's $600. After exchange, we are getting close to $900.
>>> That's a hard pass for me.
>>>
>>> Anyone have any other alternatives??
>>> --
>>> Shawn Harris
>>> North Vancouver,
>>> Canada
>>> 1977 Palm Beach 403
>>
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Re: Interior window trim [message #360709 is a reply to message #360666] Fri, 11 December 2020 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Green machine is currently offline  Green machine   Canada
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I spoke with Jim who passed me over to Nick.

It's hit and miss with the duties. More often than not, when I've ordered from Applied, I've been hit with duties (and brokerage fees as Rob mentions). The packages are usually labelled "antique parts" or something similar.

I think I'm going to go the Trim-Lok route and abandon the idea that I'll be able to tie in the window frame. Ken brings up a good point, whatever is done will be largely covered by window coverings.

Shawn


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Re: [GMCnet] Interior window trim [message #360711 is a reply to message #360704] Fri, 11 December 2020 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There might not be any "duty" - but cross border shipments into Canada will have sales tax added (which allows the brokerage fee to also be added)!

But it's a "your mileage may vary" situation - sometimes things show up and have zero fees added! I've had fees added when not applicable - so I have to put in paperwork to get them refunded. It's a big PITA.

It's especially problematic when you're located on an island surrounded by a 20+ km moat (like myself!)... The moat was handy during 2020, however.

Rob
76 Royale Twin Beds, Dry Bath
Victoria, BC

> On Dec 11, 2020, at 7:58 AM, Emery Stora via Gmclist wrote:
>
> You say you called today. Who did you call?
> You should be able to find original trim from someone parting out a GMC.
> As to import duties isn’t there an exemption for antique vehicle parts?
>
> Emery Stora

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Re: Interior window trim [message #360712 is a reply to message #360666] Fri, 11 December 2020 12:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Agreed Rob. Forgetting all that. The exchange is often time costs prohibitive on its own...

Shawn Harris North Vancouver, Canada 1977 Palm Beach 403
Re: [GMCnet] Interior window trim [message #360713 is a reply to message #360706] Fri, 11 December 2020 14:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And have a whole lot more fun..... That is if you can get across the
border :-) Damn Covid.....

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On 12/11/20 8:24 AM, James Hupy via Gmclist wrote:
> For that much, you can drive down to Fremont, pick up the trim, and drive
> home.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 7:59 AM Emery Stora via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> You say you called today. Who did you call?
>> You should be able to find original trim from someone parting out a GMC.
>> As to import duties isn’t there an exemption for antique vehicle parts?
>>
>> Emery Stora
>>
>>> On Dec 11, 2020, at 7:50 AM, Rob via Gmclist
>> wrote:
>>> Not to a large degree... When importing to Canada, these are the new
>> limits:
>>> From: https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/services/cusma-aceum/lvs-efv-eng.html
>>>
>>> For a shipment imported by mail, the following still applies:
>>>
>>> * $20 and under: duty and tax free when imported from any country
>>> * Above $20: duties and taxes apply when imported from any country,
>>> including the US and Mexico
>>>
>>> For a shipment imported by courier^> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/services/cusma-aceum/lvs-efv-eng.html#fn1> :
>>> * Imported from any country (other than the US and Mexico)
>>> o Up to $20: duty and tax free
>>> o Above $20: duties and taxes apply, *excluding* the US and Mexico
>>> * Imported from the US and Mexico
>>> o Up to $40: duty and tax free
>>> o Above $40 to $150: duty free, but taxes still apply
>>> o Above $150: duties and taxes apply
>>>
>>> Many people refer to "duty", when quite often only import sales tax is
>> due. But in either case - the carrier may charge a brokerage fee (which can
>> be substantial!)...
>>> Rob
>>> Victoria, BC
>>> 76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath
>>>
>>>> On 2020-12-11 12:43 a.m., D C _Mac_ Macdonald via Gmclist wrote:
>>>> Hasn't the new replacement for NAFTA eliminated
>>>> cross-border shipments from import duties?
>>>>
>>>> D C "Mac" Macdonald
>>>> Amateur Radio K2GKK
>>>> Since 30 November '53
>>>> USAF and FAA, Retired
>>>> Member GMCMI & Classics
>>>> Oklahoma City, OK
>>>> "The Money Pit"
>>>> TZE166V101966
>>>> '76 ex-Palm Beach
>>>> k2gkk + hotmail dot com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Gmclist on behalf of Shawn
>> Harris via Gmclist
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 22:28
>>>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>>>> Cc: Shawn Harris
>>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Interior window trim
>>>>
>>>> Well I called today. $6 USD per foot. $6 x 75 feet is $450 plus $50
>>>> for shipping I'm sure. That makes $500 plus duties, probably $100
>>>> at least. That's $600. After exchange, we are getting close to $900.
>>>> That's a hard pass for me.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have any other alternatives??
>>>> --
>>>> Shawn Harris
>>>> North Vancouver,
>>>> Canada
>>>> 1977 Palm Beach 403
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Re: Interior window trim [message #360729 is a reply to message #360666] Fri, 11 December 2020 23:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm not sure I'll go this route but I always try to use this forum to provide as many options or answers to queries as possible for the next guy. I found this;

http://www.gmccoop.com/gmc-motorhome-interior-wall-trim/

The quality of pictures isn't great but it's a direct answer to my question. I may give Mr. Bounds a ring next week to get clarification.

Shawn


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Re: Interior window trim [message #360775 is a reply to message #360666] Sun, 13 December 2020 11:00 Go to previous message
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if Bounds has done it and it worked, do that. Or have him do that depending your pocket - it's labor intensive,

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