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ABS plumbing fitting at blank tank [message #360239] Sun, 22 November 2020 17:17 Go to next message
Green machine is currently offline  Green machine   Canada
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Gents,

I am reinstalling my bathroom and getting to work on the plumbing; waste part first. At the junction where the 2" male piece fits into the actual black tank fitting(2" female) through the floor, there is a fair amount of slop. I felt inside the female fitting and it feels as though there is groove for an o-ring. I suspect you aren't meant to glue this piece so it can be removed later if necessary so it makes sense an o-ring would be utilized. I noticed when I pulled it out the PO just had it smothered in silicone.

My question is; assuming I just need an o-ring, is it some sort of specialty o-ring or any department store jobber will do? Or am i simply wrong about how these fittings go together?

Thanks.


Shawn Harris North Vancouver, Canada 1977 Palm Beach 403
Re: ABS plumbing fitting at blank tank [message #360240 is a reply to message #360239] Sun, 22 November 2020 17:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Green machine wrote on Sun, 22 November 2020 18:17
Gents,
I am reinstalling my bathroom and getting to work on the plumbing; waste part first. At the junction where the 2" male piece fits into the actual black tank fitting(2" female) through the floor, there is a fair amount of slop. I felt inside the female fitting and it feels as though there is groove for an o-ring. I suspect you aren't meant to glue this piece so it can be removed later if necessary so it makes sense an o-ring would be utilized. I noticed when I pulled it out the PO just had it smothered in silicone.
My question is; assuming I just need an o-ring, is it some sort of specialty o-ring or any department store jobber will do? Or am i simply wrong about how these fittings go together?
Thanks.
OK Shawn,

There is not reason to believe that this is anything like OE. I can assure you that the RTV was not OE.

The OE tanks had female pipe flange fittings spun welded into them. an adapter was threaded into the flange and there was supposed to be an O-ring so the drop pipe could go in there and seal. That way the movement of the pipes didn't break anything. This is actually all in the parts book. There may be a part number for the O-ring there too.

Matt


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Re: ABS plumbing fitting at blank tank [message #360241 is a reply to message #360239] Sun, 22 November 2020 18:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Matt! Good to know I wasn't too far off track. I'll have a gander at the parts book.

Cheers


Shawn Harris North Vancouver, Canada 1977 Palm Beach 403
Re: ABS plumbing fitting at blank tank [message #360242 is a reply to message #360239] Sun, 22 November 2020 18:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Green machine wrote on Sun, 22 November 2020 17:17
Gents,

I am reinstalling my bathroom and getting to work on the plumbing; waste part first. At the junction where the 2" male piece fits into the actual black tank fitting(2" female) through the floor, there is a fair amount of slop. I felt inside the female fitting and it feels as though there is groove for an o-ring. I suspect you aren't meant to glue this piece so it can be removed later if necessary so it makes sense an o-ring would be utilized. I noticed when I pulled it out the PO just had it smothered in silicone.

My question is; assuming I just need an o-ring, is it some sort of specialty o-ring or any department store jobber will do? Or am i simply wrong about how these fittings go together?

Thanks.
Here is a picture link to that fitting
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/power-level-valve-fitting/p67800-holding-tank-bung.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/power-level-valve-fitting/p67800-holding-tank-bung.html


Wally Anderson
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Re: [GMCnet] ABS plumbing fitting at blank tank [message #360243 is a reply to message #360239] Sun, 22 November 2020 18:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Shawn
You are correct that GM used a slip fitting. Bad idea!
Even if you get it back to factory install condition it will still leak in the future.
Here is how I solved the problem years back.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/holding-tank-top-fitting/p25856-mr-erf-gene-fisher-working-on-his-holding-tank.html

On the other side of the holding tank is the kitchen drain fitting. It also needed revising.

Here is how I did it:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/kitchen-sink-drain-to-holding-tank/p2730.html

let me know if you have any questions.

Emery Stora

> On Nov 22, 2020, at 4:17 PM, Shawn Harris via Gmclist wrote:
>
> Gents,
>
> I am reinstalling my bathroom and getting to work on the plumbing; waste part first. At the junction where the 2" male piece fits into the actual
> black tank fitting(2" female) through the floor, there is a fair amount of slop. I felt inside the female fitting and it feels as though there is
> groove for an o-ring. I suspect you aren't meant to glue this piece so it can be removed later if necessary so it makes sense an o-ring would be
> utilized. I noticed when I pulled it out the PO just had it smothered in silicone.
>
> My question is; assuming I just need an o-ring, is it some sort of specialty o-ring or any department store jobber will do? Or am i simply wrong about
> how these fittings go together?
>
> Thanks.
> --
> Shawn Harris
> North Vancouver,
> Canada
> 1977 Palm Beach 403
>
>
>
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Re: ABS plumbing fitting at blank tank [message #360247 is a reply to message #360242] Sun, 22 November 2020 21:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That's the one Wally!


wally wrote on Sun, 22 November 2020 18:05
Green machine wrote on Sun, 22 November 2020 17:17
Gents,

I am reinstalling my bathroom and getting to work on the plumbing; waste part first. At the junction where the 2" male piece fits into the actual black tank fitting(2" female) through the floor, there is a fair amount of slop. I felt inside the female fitting and it feels as though there is groove for an o-ring. I suspect you aren't meant to glue this piece so it can be removed later if necessary so it makes sense an o-ring would be utilized. I noticed when I pulled it out the PO just had it smothered in silicone.

My question is; assuming I just need an o-ring, is it some sort of specialty o-ring or any department store jobber will do? Or am i simply wrong about how these fittings go together?

Thanks.
Here is a picture link to that fitting
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/power-level-valve-fitting/p67800-holding-tank-bung.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/power-level-valve-fitting/p67800-holding-tank-bung.html


Shawn Harris North Vancouver, Canada 1977 Palm Beach 403
Re: [GMCnet] ABS plumbing fitting at blank tank [message #360248 is a reply to message #360243] Sun, 22 November 2020 21:39 Go to previous message
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Thanks Emory,

I really wish I would have read this post before I put the tank back in and put new flooring down. Would be tough treading to attempt this now...


stu@97381.com, Emery wrote on Sun, 22 November 2020 18:28
Shawn
You are correct that GM used a slip fitting. Bad idea!
Even if you get it back to factory install condition it will still leak in the future.
Here is how I solved the problem years back.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/holding-tank-top-fitting/p25856-mr-erf-gene-fisher-working-on-his-holding-tank.html

On the other side of the holding tank is the kitchen drain fitting. It also needed revising.

Here is how I did it:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/kitchen-sink-drain-to-holding-tank/p2730.html

let me know if you have any questions.

Emery Stora

> On Nov 22, 2020, at 4:17 PM, Shawn Harris via Gmclist wrote:
>
> Gents,
>
> I am reinstalling my bathroom and getting to work on the plumbing; waste part first. At the junction where the 2" male piece fits into the actual
> black tank fitting(2" female) through the floor, there is a fair amount of slop. I felt inside the female fitting and it feels as though there is
> groove for an o-ring. I suspect you aren't meant to glue this piece so it can be removed later if necessary so it makes sense an o-ring would be
> utilized. I noticed when I pulled it out the PO just had it smothered in silicone.
>
> My question is; assuming I just need an o-ring, is it some sort of specialty o-ring or any department store jobber will do? Or am i simply wrong about
> how these fittings go together?
>
> Thanks.
> --
> Shawn Harris
> North Vancouver,
> Canada
> 1977 Palm Beach 403
>
>
>
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