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> 1. Re: 73 air lines (Matt Colie)
> 2. Re: Speedometer Gear Reducer Adapter (Jim Kanomata)
> 3. Re: 73 air lines (Bruce Hart)
> 4. Re: Speedometer Gear Reducer Adapter (78gmcroyale)
> 5. Re: Speedometer Gear Reducer Adapter (Ken Henderson)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2020 11:04:13 -0700
> From: Matt Colie
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 73 air lines
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> lqqkatjon wrote on Sat, 07 November 2020 11:29
>> Working on a 73. Installing new airlines for microlevel.
>>
>>
>> Airlines run along the inside frame on driver side. The driver side
>> lines cross over frame to feed drivers bag. But the passenger side
>> airlines
>> go above driver side frame with drivers air lines but kinda disappear.
>> They come out on passengerside.
>>
>> I cant see them on inside of passenger side frame yet.
>>
>> Do they go inside the coach?? Or run on top if cross member?? This 73
>> has little space between frame and body. And some damn PO sprayfoamed
>> The black tank. So it might be in foam, but i have been digging and not
>> finding.
>>
>> Trying to pull them out so i can install the new one with harness. But
>> passenger side i can?t pull out or find the path that crosses over
>> frame.
>
> Jon,
>
> They are not inside the coach.
>
> The bundle goes back to the area of the left bogie bracket. There is a T
> there for system air and the line from the ride height valve and the one
> to
> the airspring go across the frame to the left.
>
> And I am having trouble remembering because I don't remember which way I
> was facing while lying under the coach, but I seem to remember them as
> being
> on top of the transverse frame between the bogie brackets. They were not
> part of my problem at that time.
>
> Remember too that this was a late 73-23, so it might not be the same but
> they were not inside the coach construction.
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumi?re -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL,
> GMCES
> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum
> Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 13:43:51 -0800
> From: Jim Kanomata
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Speedometer Gear Reducer Adapter
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> OEM ones are light tan/white 31 teeth
>
> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 7:40 AM 78gmcroyale via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Quick question.....how many teeth does the oem gear have?Sent from my
>> U.S.Cellular? Smartphone
>> -------- Original message --------From: Todd Snyder via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> Date: 11/5/20 3:52 PM (GMT-06:00) To:
>> gmclist@list.gmcnet.org Cc: Todd Snyder Subject:
>> Re: [GMCnet] Speedometer Gear Reducer Adapter I don't think the mph
>> reading
>> is the first thing to correct. The first thing to get right is the
>> odometer. That's a direct geared readout ofdistance traveled. It needs
>> to
>> be correct before the speedometer reading can be addressed if needed.
>> You
>> could get on the highway, take note of the odometer as you pass a mile
>> marker. Drive 10 miles and note the odometer reading. Subtract
>> onereading
>> from the other, figure out the % difference and get a driven gear with
>> that
>> % more or less teeth, depending on which way you need it to go. Then
>> pull
>> your current driven gear out and count the teeth. If the odometer is
>> reading low, you need fewer teeth on the driven gear. If the odometer
>> reads high, you need more teeth. You may or may not beable to get it
>> corrected with the driven gear though, the drive gear only works for a
>> certain range of tooth numbers. Looking online there aretransmission
>> parts
>> stores that offer assistance with this. They'll know what range of teeth
>> numbers will fit with what you have and sell you thegearThere are also
>> online calculators that can determine the correct driven gear to use but
>> you need to know the number of teeth on the drive gear so theywon't be
>> much
>> help unless you use them to figure out what's in there by trial and
>> error,
>> which you can do. -- Todd Snyder, Buffalo NY 1976 Eleganza
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2020 18:58:35 -0700
> From: Bruce Hart
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 73 air lines
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> If your body pads are missing or just squished flat it might be possible
> that the air lines could be pinched between the body and frame.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 11:04 AM Matt Colie via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> lqqkatjon wrote on Sat, 07 November 2020 11:29
>>> Working on a 73. Installing new airlines for microlevel.
>>>
>>>
>>> Airlines run along the inside frame on driver side. The driver side
>> lines cross over frame to feed drivers bag. But the passenger side
>> airlines
>>> go above driver side frame with drivers air lines but kinda disappear.
>> They come out on passengerside.
>>>
>>> I cant see them on inside of passenger side frame yet.
>>>
>>> Do they go inside the coach?? Or run on top if cross member?? This 73
>> has little space between frame and body. And some damn PO sprayfoamed
>>> The black tank. So it might be in foam, but i have been digging and
>>> not
>> finding.
>>>
>>> Trying to pull them out so i can install the new one with harness. But
>> passenger side i can?t pull out or find the path that crosses over
>>> frame.
>>
>> Jon,
>>
>> They are not inside the coach.
>>
>> The bundle goes back to the area of the left bogie bracket. There is a T
>> there for system air and the line from the ride height valve and the one
>> to
>> the airspring go across the frame to the left.
>>
>> And I am having trouble remembering because I don't remember which way I
>> was facing while lying under the coach, but I seem to remember them as
>> being
>> on top of the transverse frame between the bogie brackets. They were not
>> part of my problem at that time.
>>
>> Remember too that this was a late 73-23, so it might not be the same but
>> they were not inside the coach construction.
>>
>> Matt
>> --
>> Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumi?re -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL,
>> GMCES
>> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum
>> Brakes with Applied Control Arms
>> SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>
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>
>
> --
> Bruce Hart
> 1976 Palm Beach
> Milliken, Co
> GMC=Got More Class
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2020 09:53:48 -0600
> From: 78gmcroyale
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Speedometer Gear Reducer Adapter
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> I'm very confused by this statement....?"?I don't think the mph reading is
> the first thing to correct.?? The first thing to get right is the
> odometer.? That's a direct geared readout ofdistance traveled.? It needs
> to be correct before the speedometer reading can be addressed if
> needed."The speedometer cable feeds the speedometer and it's rate of
> spinning determines miles and mph.? It can't differentiate between the
> two.? If mph is correct then mileage should be correct and if mileage is
> correct then mph should be correct.? I don't understand how you can first
> fix one and then fix the other.What am I missing?Sent from my
> U.S.Cellular? Smartphone
> -------- Original message --------From: Emery Stora via Gmclist
> Date: 11/5/20 5:47 PM (GMT-06:00) To:
> gmclist@list.gmcnet.org Cc: Emery Stora Subject:
> Re: [GMCnet] Speedometer Gear Reducer Adapter You are correct. Set things
> by the odometer. I used my gps rather than a mile marker. I have found
> that mile marked often are off by .2 miles. After setting it I checked it
> by mile markers 100 miles apart. It was within 0.1 miles. Once you have
> the gps for ten miles record the odometer reading at that point. I had an
> adapter from Jim Kanometer and I just sent it back to him and gave him my
> odometer reading for 10 miles on the gps. He changed gears in it and it
> was right on Emery Stora> On Nov 5, 2020, at 2:52 PM, Todd Snyder via
> Gmclist wrote:> > ?I don't think the mph reading
> is the first thing to correct.?? The first thing to get right is the
> odometer.? That's a direct geared readout of> distance traveled.? It needs
> to be correct before the speedometer reading can be addressed if needed.?
>>> You could get on the highway, take note of the odometer as you pass a
> mile marker.?? Drive 10 miles and note the odometer reading. Subtract one>
> reading from the other, figure out the % difference and get a driven gear
> with that % more or less teeth, depending on which way you need it to go.?
>>> Then pull your current driven gear out and count the teeth.? > > If
> the odometer is reading low, you need fewer teeth on the driven gear.?? If
> the odometer reads high, you need more teeth.? You may or may not be> able
> to get it corrected with the driven gear though, the drive gear only works
> for a certain range of tooth numbers. Looking online there are>
> transmission parts stores that offer assistance with this.? They'll know
> what range of teeth numbers will fit with what you have and sell you the>
> gear> > There are also online calculators that can determine the correct
> driven gear to use but you need to know the number of teeth on the drive
> gear so they> won't be much help unless you use them to figure out what's
> in there by trial and error, which you can do. > > > > -- > Todd Snyder,
> Buffalo NY > 1976 Eleganza II> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 11:23:31 -0500
> From: Ken Henderson
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Speedometer Gear Reducer Adapter
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> The odometer is connected to the tires through a series of mechanical
> connections (gears, shafts), so it must correspond exactly to the rotation
> of the tires. When adjusted for the effective circumference of the tires,
> it should yield an exact distance travelled. The Speedometer, on the
> other
> hand, is driven through that same sequence of mechanical devices, but the
> last stage is a magnet rotating past a disk which is attached to the
> spring-loaded needle. That is NOT a solid or certain way of connecting
> devices together. If the magnet and disk are slightly too close, the
> speed
> will read high (a weak spring will have that same effect); too far apart
> yields a slow speed indication.
>
> HTH,
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 10:54 AM 78gmcroyale via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> I'm very confused by this statement.... "?I don't think the mph reading
>> is
>> the first thing to correct. The first thing to get right is the
>> odometer. That's a direct geared readout ofdistance traveled. It needs
>> to
>> be correct before the speedometer reading can be addressed if needed."The
>> speedometer cable feeds the speedometer and it's rate of spinning
>> determines miles and mph. It can't differentiate between the two. If
>> mph
>> is correct then mileage should be correct and if mileage is correct then
>> mph should be correct. I don't understand how you can first fix one and
>> then fix the other.What am I missing?Sent from my U.S.Cellular?
>> Smartphone
>> -------- Original message --------From: Emery Stora via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> Date: 11/5/20 5:47 PM (GMT-06:00) To:
>> gmclist@list.gmcnet.org Cc: Emery Stora Subject:
>> Re: [GMCnet] Speedometer Gear Reducer Adapter You are correct. Set things
>> by the odometer. I used my gps rather than a mile marker. I have found
>> that
>> mile marked often are off by .2 miles. After setting it I checked it by
>> mile markers 100 miles apart. It was within 0.1 miles. Once you have the
>> gps for ten miles record the odometer reading at that point. I had an
>> adapter from Jim Kanometer and I just sent it back to him and gave him my
>> odometer reading for 10 miles on the gps. He changed gears in it and it
>> was
>> right on Emery Stora> On Nov 5, 2020, at 2:52 PM, Todd Snyder via Gmclist
>> > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:> > ?I don't think the mph reading is the
>> first thing to correct. The first thing to get right is the odometer.
>> That's a direct geared readout of> distance traveled. It needs to be
>> correct before the speedometer reading can be addressed if needed. > >
>> You
>> could get on the highway, take note of the odometer as you pass a mile
>> marker. Drive 10 miles and note the odometer reading. Subtract one>
>> reading from the other, figure out the % difference and get a driven gear
>> with that % more or less teeth, depending on which way you need it to go.
>>>> Then pull your current driven gear out and count the teeth. > > If
>>>> the
>> odometer is reading low, you need fewer teeth on the driven gear. If
>> the
>> odometer reads high, you need more teeth. You may or may not be> able to
>> get it corrected with the driven gear though, the drive gear only works
>> for
>> a certain range of tooth numbers. Looking online there are> transmission
>> parts stores that offer assistance with this. They'll know what range of
>> teeth numbers will fit with what you have and sell you the> gear> > There
>> are also online calculators that can determine the correct driven gear to
>> use but you need to know the number of teeth on the drive gear so they>
>> won't be much help unless you use them to figure out what's in there by
>> trial and error, which you can do. > > > > -- > Todd Snyder, Buffalo NY >
>> 1976 Eleganza II> > _______________________________________________>
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