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hertfordnc is currently offline  hertfordnc   United States
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I have this Birchaven that was gone through by the Coop seven years ago, including a one-ton front end. It has almost no miles. Like less than 2000 since the rehab.

I have been slowly taking it out of mothballs. i got it running with the old gas, I plan to drain the tanks now that i can move it.

Earlier test drives it seemed to run great and handle great. Just took it for a longer ride, about 3 miles, got up to freeway speed.

I felt shaking through the steering wheel, like something was very loose.

ANy sugestions where to start?

thanks


Dave & Ellen Silva Hertford, NC 76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021 It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.

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Re: [GMCnet] One Ton Front end shaky and scary [message #358976 is a reply to message #358974] Sat, 26 September 2020 16:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ljdavick is currently offline  ljdavick   United States
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Flat spots on the tires?

> On Sep 26, 2020, at 2:05 PM, dave silva via Gmclist wrote:
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> I have this Birchaven that was gone through by the Coop seven years ago, including a one-ton front end. It has almost no miles. Like less than 2000.
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> I have been slowly taking it out of mothballs. i got it running with the old gas, I plan to drain the tanks now that i can move it.
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> Earlier test drives it seemed to run great and handle great. Just took it for a longer ride, about 3 miles, got up to freeway speed.
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> I felt shaking through the steering wheel, like something was very loose.
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> ANy sugestions where to start?
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> thanks
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Re: One Ton Front end shaky and scary [message #358978 is a reply to message #358974] Sat, 26 September 2020 17:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
94nubble is currently offline  94nubble   United States
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Dave
If it's been sitting, probably the tires are out of shape. I would take the fronts off and have them balanced. The rears would also need it also. Do the fronts and see what if anything changes.
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Re: One Ton Front end shaky and scary [message #358980 is a reply to message #358974] Sat, 26 September 2020 18:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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How old are tires? If nylon they flatspot badly sitting. Sometimes they will drive out smooth after a while. Sometimes. How much old gas? I’d just add some fresh so it’s flammable again and use it up. Otherwise what do you do with it once drained.

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Re: One Ton Front end shaky and scary [message #358993 is a reply to message #358980] Sun, 27 September 2020 06:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hertfordnc is currently offline  hertfordnc   United States
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Tires are seven years old.

I may not have been clear in my description. The shaking started when i got up to speed but it persisted after i slowed down.

It almost felt like i had a flat.

I have never experienced running a vehicle after such prolonged sitting.


THe One Ton conversion was installed at the COOP, the coach was driven 750 miles here and hardly drive again since 2013.

Are we saying there is not a likely component failure attributed to time sitting or an installation error ?



Dave & Ellen Silva Hertford, NC 76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021 It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
Re: One Ton Front end shaky and scary [message #358996 is a reply to message #358974] Sun, 27 September 2020 07:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hertfordnc is currently offline  hertfordnc   United States
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Oh wait, this is making sense.

Right front tire was flat- slow leak, takes a few days to fall. So when it's aired up hard the flat spot goes away but when it starts to go down the flat spot shows up?

I did not harden the tire before this short test drive.

I'll try it again when i have time.



Dave & Ellen Silva Hertford, NC 76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021 It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
Re: One Ton Front end shaky and scary [message #358997 is a reply to message #358996] Sun, 27 September 2020 07:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maybe some time in the last 7 years the tire started going down and PO put some fix a flat in it and didn’t drive it and over time it turned into a wad of goop.




hertfordnc wrote on Sun, 27 September 2020 08:33
Oh wait, this is making sense.

Right front tire was flat- slow leak, takes a few days to fall. So when it's aired up hard the flat spot goes away but when it starts to go down the flat spot shows up?

I did not harden the tire before this short test drive.

I'll try it again when i have time.



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Re: [GMCnet] One Ton Front end shaky and scary [message #358998 is a reply to message #358996] Sun, 27 September 2020 07:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Double check axle bolts to final drive.

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Re: [GMCnet] One Ton Front end shaky and scary [message #359004 is a reply to message #358993] Sun, 27 September 2020 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Another possibility? Tread/belt separation?

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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] One Ton Front end shaky and scary

Tires are seven years old.

I may not have been clear in my description. The shaking started when i got up to speed but it persisted after i slowed down.

It almost felt like i had a flat.

I have never experienced running a vehicle after such prolonged sitting.


THe One Ton conversion was installed at the COOP, the coach was driven 750 miles here and hardly drive again since 2013.

Are we saying there is not a likely component failure attributed to time sitting or an installation error ?


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1972 Revcon Olds 455, toro drive train. All Stock

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Re: One Ton Front end shaky and scary [message #359005 is a reply to message #358974] Sun, 27 September 2020 11:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If it sat any length of time on a flat or very low tire the tire is probably scrap. It could even be dangerous to drive
on. I would suggest you take the wheel/tire off the vehicle and take it to a tire shop. Tell them to inflate the tire
in their truck tire cage and stand back. After couple of days have them check the tire and spin it on their balancer.

I just went trough this with a tire. It was visibly obviously ruined and I scrapped it without trying to reinflate it.

An exploding tire of any size is DANGEROUS.


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Re: One Ton Front end shaky and scary [message #359007 is a reply to message #358974] Sun, 27 September 2020 12:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Dave

Just a caution on old gas - it can sometimes create varnish and result in stuck valves and bent pushrods both in the coach engine and the Onan.

Dennis

hertfordnc wrote on Sat, 26 September 2020 16:04
I have this Birchaven that was gone through by the Coop seven years ago, including a one-ton front end. It has almost no miles. Like less than 2000 since the rehab.

I have been slowly taking it out of mothballs. i got it running with the old gas, I plan to drain the tanks now that i can move it.

Earlier test drives it seemed to run great and handle great. Just took it for a longer ride, about 3 miles, got up to freeway speed.

I felt shaking through the steering wheel, like something was very loose.

ANy sugestions where to start?

thanks


Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
Re: One Ton Front end shaky and scary [message #359011 is a reply to message #359005] Sun, 27 September 2020 19:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hertfordnc is currently offline  hertfordnc   United States
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Oh yeah, the tires are absolutely scrap. But i'd like to work the bugs out before i drop $1000 on new rubber.

I really should drain the tanks though.


Dave & Ellen Silva Hertford, NC 76 Birchaven, 1-ton and other stuff Currently planning the Great american Road Trip Summer 2021 It's gonna take a lot of Adderall to get this thing right.
Re: One Ton Front end shaky and scary [message #359021 is a reply to message #359011] Mon, 28 September 2020 07:17 Go to previous message
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Dave,

Sounds to me like the tires are a pretty big bug and easily fixed. I don't see how you can diagnose anything front end without good tires.

I would gladly have paid $1000 for the one tire if it would have prevented my blowout. Cost me a lot more than a grand...

Richard


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