Have you verified that the bolts holding the two halves of the ball cup
together are not loose? Back when we worked on those columns frequently
that was a common issue.

Sully
Bellevue wa

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> Are worn or sloppy steering column spheres a common problem? I suspect
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No i have not, thanks Sully.

I was just looking for "loose" steering components do to a bit of sloppy steering and while holding the lower column at the upper joint the wife could still move the wheel slightly so i figured the spheres might be the culprit.

sgltrac wrote on Thu, 20 August 2020 19:58

Have you verified that the bolts holding the two halves of the ball cup
together are not loose? Back when we worked on those columns frequently
that was a common issue.

Sully
Bellevue wa

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>
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Sir, this is a guide to updating the column to turn signals on the stalk but should give you an idea of how to get to the 4 bolts that get loose under the turn signal switch. You will need to remove the shift lever housing and the upper tilt housing. You should be able to unplug the turn signal switch at bottom of column and raise it enough to clear the shaft and lay aside in the coach. You will need some grease and probably a small magnet to chase ball bearings and hold them in place to assemble.
http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Sowers_Steering_Column_Upgrade_Repair.pdf

There might be other issues when you get in there as the bearing and tilt housings are pot metal. Replacing these is the only repair if broken.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47937-dsc00284.html

The tilt ball is 2 piece with a “C” spring in the middle. This spring wears on the shaft on all GMCs I have taken apart. When you get this deep in the column you can remove the ball by bending the top part to lower right and slip the top shaft off. Do not rotate the shaft. Keep the same orientation of the shaft but take the ball off and rotate it 180* and replace it on the lower shaft then replace the top shaft. Of course grease it. This will put the spring on a virgin surface and tighten up the spring and joint.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47389-most-all-the-motorhomes-are-wore-here.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47388-wear-pattern.html


6cuda6 wrote on Thu, 20 August 2020 20:30

No i have not, thanks Sully.

I was just looking for "loose" steering components do to a bit of sloppy steering and while holding the lower column at the upper joint the wife could still move the wheel slightly so i figured the spheres might be the culprit.

sgltrac wrote on Thu, 20 August 2020 19:58

Have you verified that the bolts holding the two halves of the ball cup
together are not loose? Back when we worked on those columns frequently
that was a common issue.

Sully
Bellevue wa

On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 3:51 PM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist <
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> Are worn or sloppy steering column spheres a common problem? I suspect
> lower column bearings are but other parts like this?
>
> --
>
> Rich Mondor,
>
>
>
> Brockville, ON
>
>
>
> 77 Hughes 2600
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Mr Boyd thank you for the detailed info.

Question: is their a way to verify if its a loose pivot plate without taking it all apart? Can i hold something while turning something etc? Or does it have to come apart.

Just for reference the coach has approx 60000miles.


C Boyd wrote on Thu, 20 August 2020 21:58

Sir, this is a guide to updating the column to turn signals on the stalk but should give you an idea of how to get to the 4 bolts that get loose under the turn signal switch. You will need to remove the shift lever housing and the upper tilt housing. You should be able to unplug the turn signal switch at bottom of column and raise it enough to clear the shaft and lay aside in the coach. You will need some grease and probably a small magnet to chase ball bearings and hold them in place to assemble.
http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Sowers_Steering_Column_Upgrade_Repair.pdf

There might be other issues when you get in there as the bearing and tilt housings are pot metal. Replacing these is the only repair if broken.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47937-dsc00284.html

The tilt ball is 2 piece with a “C” spring in the middle. This spring wears on the shaft on all GMCs I have taken apart. When you get this deep in the column you can remove the ball by bending the top part to lower right and slip the top shaft off. Do not rotate the shaft. Keep the same orientation of the shaft but take the ball off and rotate it 180* and replace it on the lower shaft then replace the top shaft. Of course grease it. This will put the spring on a virgin surface and tighten up the spring and joint.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47389-most-all-the-motorhomes-are-wore-here.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47388-wear-pattern.html


6cuda6 wrote on Thu, 20 August 2020 20:30

No i have not, thanks Sully.

I was just looking for "loose" steering components do to a bit of sloppy steering and while holding the lower column at the upper joint the wife could still move the wheel slightly so i figured the spheres might be the culprit.

sgltrac wrote on Thu, 20 August 2020 19:58

Have you verified that the bolts holding the two halves of the ball cup
together are not loose? Back when we worked on those columns frequently
that was a common issue.

Sully
Bellevue wa

On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 3:51 PM 6cuda6--- via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> Are worn or sloppy steering column spheres a common problem? I suspect
> lower column bearings are but other parts like this?
>
> --
>
> Rich Mondor,
>
>
>
> Brockville, ON
>
>
>
> 77 Hughes 2600
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