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[GMCnet] Excel Substitute [message #357469] Mon, 03 August 2020 15:15 Go to next message
Oliver Moore is currently offline  Oliver Moore   United States
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After years of Microsoft as a national magazine editor, I switched to WPS
Office on retirement. It's free. Mimics Word, Excel and PowerPoint
effortlessly. Plus it can convert a .doc to a PDF and visa versa.
Oliver
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Re: [GMCnet] Excel Substitute [message #357493 is a reply to message #357469] Tue, 04 August 2020 12:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Oliver, <p>

Thanks for the pointer, I will soon have to abandon Corel because of the maintenance costs, so the suggestion is welcome. <p>

Matt Colie


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Re: [GMCnet] Excel Substitute [message #357494 is a reply to message #357493] Tue, 04 August 2020 12:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill Van Vlack is currently offline  Bill Van Vlack   United States
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Matt...
Try Inkscape - open source.


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Re: [GMCnet] Excel Substitute [message #357496 is a reply to message #357493] Tue, 04 August 2020 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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I had Corel, kinda learned how to use it, thought it was great, then they
went to charging school. Every time I went to use it, they wanted more
money. I finally gave up using it altogether. If you were using it every
day, it has all the bells and whistles one could ever need. Just not a good
fit for the occasional user. That's my take on it, anyway. I am a P.C.
user, not Apple.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Tue, Aug 4, 2020, 10:41 AM Matt Colie via Gmclist <
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> Oliver,
>
> Thanks for the pointer, I will soon have to abandon Corel because of the
> maintenance costs, so the suggestion is welcome.
>
> Matt Colie
> --
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> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: [GMCnet] Excel Substitute [message #357497 is a reply to message #357493] Tue, 04 August 2020 12:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Will Albers is currently offline  Will Albers   United States
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I'm with Justin - We use Google Drive for everything as my content is
available on every machine i own without effort. But... if the Fear of
Googles keep you up at night, why not use OpenOffice?

On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 1:41 PM Matt Colie via Gmclist <
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> Oliver,
>
> Thanks for the pointer, I will soon have to abandon Corel because of the
> maintenance costs, so the suggestion is welcome.
>
> Matt Colie
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: [GMCnet] Excel Substitute [message #357501 is a reply to message #357497] Tue, 04 August 2020 14:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill Van Vlack is currently offline  Bill Van Vlack   United States
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I used Open Office for quite a while, but it started having problems. Found out that the Libre Office branch of Open Office was updated much more frequently. Been working great!

Libre Office vs Google Docs...


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Re: [GMCnet] Excel Substitute [message #357507 is a reply to message #357501] Wed, 05 August 2020 00:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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I have been using Open Office for years and years and years and like it better than Excel. I came from the Lotus 123 Crowd.

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Re: [GMCnet] Excel Substitute [message #357513 is a reply to message #357507] Wed, 05 August 2020 13:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
indymac is currently offline  indymac   United States
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I totally agree on Open Office, (with a barely memorable fondness for 123 and WordPerfect!), but years ago when I tried it, I'm sure it's improved if still available, I had trouble with some .xlsx translations. Especially with 123 fonts alone can be a problem, and is limiting factor on using approach. a) I was normally communicating and sharing with others using Excel, and b) especially on Word I was using some fairly rare optional features, such as automatic table of contents and appendixes, necessitating a written manual for reference from eBay like the old days. It would still be my recommendation for "shareware" personal use, but I haven't stayed remotely fluent on either what's currently available or Open Office availability let alone updated capability.
It was a VERY painful transition ramping up to Excel after over a decade of of extensive 123. Thank goodness they had the 123 translator built in.
Still catch myself using some 123 keystrokes!
I also occasionally check the internet for Lotus Suite updates, but IBM stopped after Version 9 something. Still have the latest version loaded if all else fails.
I've spent hours trying to resurrect Approach, I've never found ANYTHING remotely as user friendly and flexible.
I just keep dreaming for a perfect world.

If you ever want to bite the painful learning curve of Office bullet, as I said there's some affordable older and academic versions with permanent licencees on eBay or your local college bookstore.
They try to get the younguns addicted on the cheap, a lesson they learned from the cigarette companies. Of course someday they will purposely outdate even those, forcing everyone to go online with annual renewal. At that point I'll either reassess my approach, or will be in a state where I'm no longer using a computer!




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Re: [GMCnet] Excel Substitute [message #357547 is a reply to message #357513] Fri, 07 August 2020 11:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JimGunther is currently offline  JimGunther   United States
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There must be SOME Visicalc users out there....not current users but that's the "Killer App" that got me to buy a TRS-80 (48K Memory w/ 2 floopy disc) for my job. Spent $2,500. of MY OWN money (no printer) - No regrets really.

In a related matter, I'm still on Word (2007 I think) -I'd like to find a simple (AND FREE) program or app that converts any doc to PDF. Any suggestions?


Jim Gunther
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now former owner - ;( 73 GMC-II 2600
by Explorer
Re: [GMCnet] Excel Substitute [message #357548 is a reply to message #357547] Fri, 07 August 2020 11:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Olly Schmidt is currently offline  Olly Schmidt   United States
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On 07.08.20 18:05, Jim Gunther via Gmclist wrote:
> In a related matter, I'm still on Word (2007 I think) -I'd like to find a simple (AND FREE) program or app that converts any doc to PDF. Any
> suggestions?

FreePDF is used as a printer driver. Therefore, anything that can be
printed, can be made into a PDF.

Libre/OpenOffice is able to export to PDF as well.

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Re: [GMCnet] Excel Substitute [message #357551 is a reply to message #357547] Fri, 07 August 2020 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Oh, yeah. I started out on Visicalc -- when it was the first and only
choice, in 1978, IIRC. That's the same year two programmers and I began
the development of accounting and scheduling programs for radio stations --
for a station owner who had the first GMC Motorhome I ever saw. When we
got the programs going, he set up a computer desk in the GMC to give
on-site demonstrations. The original development was on TRS-80's with 4
floppy discs. Before we were done, the R-2000 had come along and he became
the first OEM for the equivalent Tandy 2000. So our first deliveries were
Tandy 2000's with two 8" floppy drives. The hard disk (10MB, IIRC) came
available about the time we sold all the rights to the programs to him and
moved on.

Ken "VERY Early Micro User" H.


On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 12:06 PM Jim Gunther via Gmclist <
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> There must be SOME Visicalc users out there....not current users but
> that's the "Killer App" that got me to buy a TRS-80 (48K Memory w/ 2 floopy
> disc)
> for my job. Spent $2,500. of MY OWN money (no printer) - No regrets
> really.
>
> In a related matter, I'm still on Word (2007 I think) -I'd like to find a
> simple (AND FREE) program or app that converts any doc to PDF. Any
> suggestions?
> --
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> www.LotusV6.com
>
> now former owner - ;(
>
> 73 GMC-II 2600
> by Explorer
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Re: [GMCnet] Excel Substitute [message #357552 is a reply to message #357551] Fri, 07 August 2020 12:48 Go to previous message
Bill Van Vlack is currently offline  Bill Van Vlack   United States
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For printing PDFs....
I use 'CutePDF', which is a printer driver for Windows. Once installed, it will show up in the list of printers to select in any program's 'Print' function. Select it, and it will print as a PDF and ask for a location to store it.


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