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| Suggestion database [message #357452] |
Mon, 03 August 2020 10:01  |
indymac
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Among other things I'm very confused about proper adhesives, lubricants, and sealants to use.
There are TONS of good suggestions on this forum, and other places.
The problem is researching any one takes very time consuming hunt and seek, and may result in stopping on less than the best, or complete, suggestion.
Could someone other than me with a very low baseline of knowledge reduce some of the subjects in a concise list of recommendations?
A database could include things such as "By" (who), application (which damned plastic), reason, pros, cons, etc.
While a cumbersome task, like the parts interchange once done it can only be improved upon.
Also as things change, new products become available and new suggestions arise.
To lessen the burden on any one person, several could volunteer for individual applications and situations.
Normally instead of a formal DB structure, an excel spreadsheet suffices.
If successful, the concept could be expanded into alternative parts, products, upgrades, projects, etc.
If this information already exists somewhere in concise form, I apologize for bothering anyone reading.
BYW, I NEVER work on my 10 year endless money pit project without Coreseal (in a tupperware sealable bowl) and acetone/tranny fluid (in a small sealed mason jar) handy, along with a separate small detail brush and small paint brush attached to the containers.
Any rubber, including new, gets treated with a preservative. Always have a totally polluted rag handy for 40 years of grease somewhere.
Any rusted bolt gets replaced with SS.
My goal is to maintain as though it will last another 40 years, and once burnt, twice shy.
I always keep an aggressive cleaner, a mild cleaner, rubber preservative, and scotch pad handy all with separate rags to avoid cross contamination.
There's three colors I hate to see, rust orange, plastic mustard yellow, and the original circus green.
I also have my own GMC spreadsheet where I keep track of part #'s and suggested brand product names(not all are in parts database), my to do list broken down by must, should, would like to, and pipe dream, and links to complicated help procedure sites. (among other tidbits and notes)
Overkill perhaps, but then that's my painful nature.
Thanks to all for the limitless help you have given to others, most especially myself over the years.
Jim
77 403 Palm Beach
Decatur, Indiana
77 Palm Beach 403
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TZE167V101738
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| Re: Suggestion database [message #357453 is a reply to message #357452] |
Mon, 03 August 2020 10:09  |
indymac
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FYI, by "low baseline" I was referring to myself.
I don't always read what I write carefully enough.
I will also assist in any way I can.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Suggestion database [message #357464 is a reply to message #357462] |
Mon, 03 August 2020 14:30 |
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jaguarxke311@yahoo.com, Jim McConnell is now a member of both GMCnet
platforms.
Jim wrote and Matt replied to:
Among other things I'm very confused about proper adhesives, lubricants,
and sealants to use.
There are TONS of good suggestions on this forum, and other places.
The problem is researching any one takes very time consuming hunt and seek,
and may result in stopping on less than the best, or complete, suggestion.
Could someone other than me with a very low baseline of knowledge reduce
some of the subjects in a concise list of recommendations?
A database could include things such as "By" (who), application (which
damned plastic), reason, pros, cons, etc.
While a cumbersome task, like the parts interchange once done it can only
be improved upon.
Also as things change, new products become available and new suggestions
arise.
To lessen the burden on any one person, several could volunteer for
individual applications and situations.
Normally instead of a formal DB structure, an excel spreadsheet suffices.
If successful, the concept could be expanded into alternative parts,
products, upgrades, projects, etc.
If this information already exists somewhere in concise form, I apologize
for bothering anyone reading.
BYW, I NEVER work on my 10 year endless money pit project without Coreseal
(in a tupperware sealable bowl) and acetone/tranny fluid (in a small sealed
mason jar) handy, along with a separate small detail brush and small paint
brush attached to the containers.
Any rubber, including new, gets treated with a preservative. Always have a
totally polluted rag handy for 40 years of grease somewhere.
Any rusted bolt gets replaced with SS.
My goal is to maintain as though it will last another 40 years, and once
burnt, twice shy.
I always keep an aggressive cleaner, a mild cleaner, rubber preservative,
and scotch pad handy all with separate rags to avoid cross contamination.
There's three colors I hate to see, rust orange, plastic mustard yellow,
and the original circus green.
I also have my own GMC spreadsheet where I keep track of part #'s and
suggested brand product names(not all are in parts database), my to do list
broken down by must, should, would like to, and pipe dream, and links to
complicated help procedure sites. (among other tidbits and notes)
Overkill perhaps, but then that's my painful nature.
Thanks to all for the limitless help you have given to others, most
especially myself over the years.
Jim
77 403 Palm Beach
Decatur, Indiana
On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 1:56 PM Matt Colie via Gmclist
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> Jim,
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> I do like the idea, but I have the recurring problem with things done on
> MS packages. The effort MS puts into making their file incompatible is
> legendary.
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> While I also like and use spreadsheets, I now have to avoid Excel because
> I can't afford the 300+$us/year for a Macrosquash Oriface license. So, if
> you put something in a Excel sheet, please also publish it as CSV or
> something else that does not cost a fortune to decode. If I have to send
> something in an MS file type, I also send along another file that can be
> read by anything.
>
> Matt
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| Re: Suggestion database [message #357465 is a reply to message #357462] |
Mon, 03 August 2020 14:50 |
Bill Van Vlack
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Registered: September 2015
Location: Guemes Island, Washington
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Bruce,
Try LibreOffice...(Windows) free software with substitutes and general compatibility with Word, Excel, Powerpoint files.
Bill Van Vlack
'76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid November 2015.
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| Re: Suggestion database [message #357467 is a reply to message #357452] |
Mon, 03 August 2020 15:06 |
Bill Van Vlack
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Here is a start of a Resource page that might be morphed into something like you are suggesting.....
https://www.gmcmhforum.com/resources/
Bill Van Vlack
'76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid November 2015.
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| Re: Suggestion database [message #357474 is a reply to message #357467] |
Mon, 03 August 2020 21:00 |
indymac
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I mention MS Excel assuming that would be the most common.
I too, resent MS ongoing fees, something IBM learned decades ago.
When I buy MS software, I go to eBay and buy an older academic version.
Or if you know someone attending a college they normally have access to academically priced software.
I always used a 97 Office version that I could copy until they switch to a new file format (.xlsx) forcing everyone to upgrade to a newer version.
I think any version after Office 97 handles .xlsx Caveat, there's a lot of sites that sell access keys only, not the original software.
I just and reluctantly bought Visio on that basis due to the price, and so far so good.
Ditto Word. And that's the problem with shareware programs, they have a hard time staying up with office new features and full compliance with options within Excel.
Get in line. I cut my eye teeth on 123 (Lotus), loved it, and their DB program, Approach, was the most user friendly (and crash prone) programs I've every used.
I finally, sadly, and very reluctantly joined the MS world, and endured a new painful learning curve.
Now Approach won't even load in Windows 10.
I mainly was trying to distinguish a spreadsheet from a more flexible and robust DB approach.
Also DB literally stands for a base of data, what both spreadsheets and "DB"'s represent.
30 years ago I could have made a recommendation and would have probably canned a Lotus Approach or Paradox application.
Today, I'm a duck out of water, especially in terms of making anything available on the internet.
Over my pay grade today.
I don't know who is in charge of the Parts DB, but it may be a good and easy thing for them to add.
If it's one of the suppliers or a significant charge involved, we could either look into alternatives or ante up.
Like the parts database (which I've just started using) before I start a new project I try to get the best advice and avoid reinventing any wheels.
But, with all the great information out there properly researching a coach improvement can take a long time, let alone be confusing.
And even after 1/2 hour or more I never know if there's a better suggestion out there.
Again, I'll help anyway I can. I actually started this project years ago, mostly from this site, bdub, and GMC Motorhome mags (remember those?) but lost the file in a hard drive crash.
But as I said, I'm no longer currently fluent, too old, too tired, and too far behind getting my coach ready.
Thanks,
Jim
77 Palm Beach 403
Decatur, IN
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| Re: Suggestion database [message #357490 is a reply to message #357452] |
Tue, 04 August 2020 11:41 |
indymac
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There are a lot of very good sites, that's part of the problem, almost too many for a comprehensive education.
Would be nice to consolidate/summarize with URL's to longer descriptions, procedures, explanations, pictures, GMC and non GMC.
I settled on coreseal after watching a youtube video. Youtube is becoming my go to before I tackle anything, unless GMC oriented.
I say include all suggestions or all that are credible.
I have a lot of suggestions on structure and content but please understand they are suggestions only, and I don't claim or never have had all the answers, and very much appreciating input from others.
Include all with "reason", "pros", "cons", and date in case of new solutions suggested that didn't exist before.
Downloadable would be nice, but online updated might be better.
One difference between spreadsheet and DB, is ability to index, search, and locate, at the cost of more setup and maintenance.
Not sure of the Wiki format/site. Will check.
You don't know how close I am to moving to Canada if the US gets any worse.
You can be thankful they won't let me in right now.
Totally different world once you cross the Ambassador bridge.
And both countries were settled at the same time with basically the same people.
Go figure. Oops, not political, just want to round nickels.
Not sure what works best:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/member-galleries/p67547-info-db-example.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showfull.php?photo=67547
77 Palm Beach 403
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| Re: Suggestion database [message #357492 is a reply to message #357482] |
Tue, 04 August 2020 12:11 |
Bill Van Vlack
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As Matt said, it's pretty much the 'who', not the 'how' that's the issue.
There is a real need for easy access to the best information - if new owners can find out how to 'do the right thing' quickly , easily and as inexpensively as possible, the GMC Motorhome fleet will have a much better chance of surviving and improving over time.
A number of dedicated GMC Motorhome owners have created great forums, websites, FB pages, etc. to that end, but in my opinion it really has to be an organization rather than an individual; an organization with the mission, means, and will to take it on for the long haul.
Bill Van Vlack
'76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid November 2015.
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