| Removing Liquid Applied Roof Coating (and other Roof Questions) [message #356025] |
Tue, 23 June 2020 12:21  |
Wackster
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I'm getting my materials together for a total roof re-hab, including replacing and resetting vents, removal and resealing the roof to sidewall seam covers, etc. PO did a fairly neat job of applying a liquid elastomeric coating to the roof. But now that coating is 20+ years old, cracking in places and a grubby gray color. It is about 1/8"thick and very tough to scrape, even after applying heat with my Milwaukee heat gun. A wire cup brush on a 4" mini-grinder made a lot of heat and polished the coating surface, but did not cut into it without applying a lot of pressure. Looks like I have two ways to go: 1. Clean and then solvent wipe the existing surface and apply more goo (liquid EPDM?) anywhere the existing coating has failed, or 2. remove the coating down to metal and then prime/paint with an automotive paint system (my preference). Has anyone done this? Is there a chemical stripper specific to liquid applied EPDM? Are there better options? Thank you in advance for any thoughts on this matter.
Jim Wack - 1976 23' Crestmont
Baltimore, Maryland
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| Re: Removing Liquid Applied Roof Coating (and other Roof Questions) [message #356045 is a reply to message #356025] |
Wed, 24 June 2020 12:12  |
Carl S.
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Without any first hand experience at this, I would suggest trying a chemical stripper and see what it does to the elastomeric. You might have to experiment with several brands/types of stripper to see which one works the best.
I always cringe when I hear about someone (usually on Facebook) talking about putting a rubberized or elastomeric roof coating on the top of a GMG. It wouldn't be so bad except a large portion of the roof is visible from the ground.
It sounds like a lot of work, but I'm sure it will be worth it in the end.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Removing Liquid Applied Roof Coating (and other Roof Questions) [message #356047 is a reply to message #356045] |
Wed, 24 June 2020 12:27 |
Dolph Santorine
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I can assure you that it’s difficult.
I had to remove “Kool Seal” from the roof of my coach, and in the end, it was purely a mechanical process.
I bought a drum stripper device from Eastwood that was the best of what we tried.
Good luck. Wear a mask!
Dolph
DE AD0LF
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress”
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> On Jun 24, 2020, at 1:12 PM, Carl Stouffer via Gmclist wrote:
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> Without any first hand experience at this, I would suggest trying a chemical stripper and see what it does to the elastomeric. You might have to
> experiment with several brands/types of stripper to see which one works the best.
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> I always cringe when I hear about someone (usually on Facebook) talking about putting a rubberized or elastomeric roof coating on the top of a GMG.
> It wouldn't be so bad except a large portion of the roof is visible from the ground.
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> It sounds like a lot of work, but I'm sure it will be worth it in the end.
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> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
> Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles,
> Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: Removing Liquid Applied Roof Coating (and other Roof Questions) [message #356055 is a reply to message #356025] |
Wed, 24 June 2020 15:15 |
Wackster
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New development. The mid-Atlantic sales rep from Drummond Chemical (Peel-Away line of paint & coating strippers) is dropping by tomorrow to apply several of their products as a test case. He said they didn't have product performance data on these types of coatings and it would benefit him to know if there is a potential market. Hoping for good results.
Jim Wack - 1976 23' Crestmont
Baltimore, Maryland
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| Re: Removing Liquid Applied Roof Coating (and other Roof Questions) [message #356064 is a reply to message #356055] |
Thu, 25 June 2020 09:16 |
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Richard RV
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I've used Peel Away on a number of projects and I like the stuff. Hopefully it'll do the trick. Mechanically removing a rubberized coating would be the opposite of fun. It's great that you've got the rep coming to provide free labor and materials.
Like John said, watch out for drips. Not sure which Peel Away product the rep will try but it might eat Imron.
Richard
'77 Birchaven TZE...777;
'76 Palm Beach under construction;
‘76 Edgemont waiting its turn
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| Re: Removing Liquid Applied Roof Coating (and other Roof Questions) [message #356065 is a reply to message #356064] |
Thu, 25 June 2020 09:46 |
Carl S.
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Yeah, I would definitely mask off the lower parts of the coach that you don't want the paint damaged on. Tape and plastic sheeting from the roof down.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Removing Liquid Applied Roof Coating (and other Roof Questions) [message #356094 is a reply to message #356069] |
Thu, 25 June 2020 20:54 |
Dolph Santorine
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Jim:
If you can come up with another way to seal those, I would.
It can be extremely difficult to get those loose.
I put “Eternabond” on mine. It takes paint quite well.
Dolph
DE AD0LF
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress”
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> On Jun 25, 2020, at 11:46 AM, James Wack via Gmclist wrote:
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> Good point. The rest of the coach has a very serviceable paint job. Don't wan't to add more to my plate. In fact, I will probably go ahead and
> remove the drip rail seam covers as well. Thanks!
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> Jim Wack - 1976 23' Crestmont
> Baltimore, Maryland
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| Re: Removing Liquid Applied Roof Coating (and other Roof Questions) [message #356508 is a reply to message #356025] |
Tue, 07 July 2020 18:45 |
GatsbysCruise
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In my old RV I was a believer in that elastometric roof coating.
The old RV originally had that crap aluminum roof coating, it cracked when the RV was moved a foot and then leaked.
The Elasto roof coating sealed all the leaks, and the cloth seam cover would allow movement when the RV moved.
THE BIG PLUS to that rubber coating, and probably why that PO applied it, is when it is clean, the Elasto rubber coating keeps the heat
out of the RV by an incredible factor. THE PROBLEM IS, the Elasto rubber roof has to be washed every year or so or it gets dirty and will lose the ability to reject any heat.
My older RV's Elasto Rubber roof was 20 years old when I got rid of it and it still didn't leak.
That is not a bad roof, but on the GMC you can only use it where you cannot see it, which is up top, not on the curved roof sides.
That product is very hard to remove, it is intended for that purpose to protect the roof. I don't know of anything other than scraping and repainting the roof, to get it all back off. That Elasto rubber roof is a tough product when it is new and the last time I had to deal with it when it was about 10 years old, it didn't give to removal at all.
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