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| [GMCnet] Oil filter base leak [message #355950] |
Sun, 21 June 2020 16:48  |
Keith V
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That stupid oil filter base / adapter is leaking.
I went to O Riles and all they show is one for the 350 I think Napa doesn't show one at all.
I assume Jim K has one. Are they available at parts stores locally??
but the main question is how to get the damn thing to not leak. I'm at my wits end
Keith Vasilakes
1975 Royale
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil filter base leak [message #355951 is a reply to message #355950] |
Sun, 21 June 2020 17:59  |
JohnL455
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You mean between adaptor and engine? Replace gasket. Rob Mueller posted the real gasket but many use oil filter take off gasket
John Lebetski
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil filter base leak [message #355953 is a reply to message #355950] |
Sun, 21 June 2020 17:44 |
sgltrac
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Keith,
I believe that an o ring from an oil filter will work in the adapter.
Sully
Bellevue wa
On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 2:48 PM Keith V via Gmclist
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> That stupid oil filter base / adapter is leaking.
> I went to O Riles and all they show is one for the 350 I think Napa
> doesn't show one at all.
> I assume Jim K has one. Are they available at parts stores locally??
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> but the main question is how to get the damn thing to not leak. I'm at my
> wits end
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> Keith Vasilakes
> 1975 Royale
> MicroLevel
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil filter base leak [message #355954 is a reply to message #355950] |
Sun, 21 June 2020 18:01 |
Carl S.
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Keith,
Do you have the right gasket? Evidently the 403 and the 455 are different. When I did my engine, I found that the gasket in the overhaul kit was for the 403. I believe Jim K has the right one, I don't know where else to get it.
Scroll through these pics:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/oil-filter-adapter-comparisons/p29094-oil-filter-adapter-455.html
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil filter base leak [message #355956 is a reply to message #355955] |
Sun, 21 June 2020 18:22 |
jimk
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Thw O ring gasket is at the topmof the filter adapter. Thw gasket at the
engine is a tough one to find , We had a engine bulder supply us with some.
Join International GMC as they have a parts listing.
If you dont find it call me..
On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 4:04 PM Carl Stouffer via Gmclist <
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> https://www.gmcrvparts.com/product-p/gm8-009-1.2.htm
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> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
> Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive,
> Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American
> Eagles,
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil filter base leak [message #355958 is a reply to message #355950] |
Sun, 21 June 2020 19:19 |
JohnL455
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My interchange just has old GM numbers or Use Oil Filter Gasket but it’s 2017. Haven’t gotten hard copies since.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil filter base leak [message #355960 is a reply to message #355956] |
Sun, 21 June 2020 19:00 |
Keith V
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Seems silly to bug Jim for a little gasket, oh well I should talk to him about other things anyway.
And Yes it's the adapter to block gasket, not the o ring between the cooler adapter, which BTW is not an old filter gasket, there is a part, Dorman Seal P/N 917-036
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/oil-filter-base-to-oil-cooler-adapter-sealing/p55887-oil-filter-seal-dorman-seal-ph-2-230-o-ring.html
[http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6677/medium/Oil_Filter_-_Dorman_-_O-ring.JPG]
Oil Filter Seal - Dorman Seal - PH 2-230 O-Ring
From left to right is an Oil Filter Seal, a Dorman Seal P/N 917-036 (available from O'Reilly's), and a Parker Hannifin O-ring. I believe that the Parker Hannifin O-ring (PH 2-230) is the best part for the job. Seal groove dimensions are: 2.803 OD X 2.437 ID X .120 Depth.
www.gmcmhphotos.com
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Thw O ring gasket is at the topmof the filter adapter. Thw gasket at the
engine is a tough one to find , We had a engine bulder supply us with some.
Join International GMC as they have a parts listing.
If you dont find it call me..
On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 4:04 PM Carl Stouffer via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> https://www.gmcrvparts.com/product-p/gm8-009-1.2.htm
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
> Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive,
> Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American
> Eagles,
> Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil filter base leak [message #355961 is a reply to message #355960] |
Sun, 21 June 2020 20:00 |
Larry
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Keith V wrote on Sun, 21 June 2020 19:00Seems silly to bug Jim for a little gasket, oh well I should talk to him about other things anyway.
And Yes it's the adapter to block gasket, not the o ring between the cooler adapter, which BTW is not an old filter gasket, there is a part, Dorman Seal P/N 917-036
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/oil-filter-base-to-oil-cooler-adapter-sealing/p55887-oil-filter-seal-dorman-seal-ph-2-230-o-ring.html
[http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6677/medium/Oil_Filter_-_Dorman_-_O-ring.JPG]
Oil Filter Seal - Dorman Seal - PH 2-230 O-Ring
From left to right is an Oil Filter Seal, a Dorman Seal P/N 917-036 (available from O'Reilly's), and a Parker Hannifin O-ring. I believe that the Parker Hannifin O-ring (PH 2-230) is the best part for the job. Seal groove dimensions are: 2.803 OD X 2.437 ID X .120 Depth.
www.gmcmhphotos.com
I bought several of the Parker Hannifin O-ring (PH 2-230), and tried them out. Actually, a filter gasket from a discarded oil filter (for the Olds 455) when doing an oil change, just seems to work better. Just what I've noticed.
Larry 
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil filter base leak [message #355967 is a reply to message #355964] |
Sun, 21 June 2020 20:02 |
jimk
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I have no problem answing the phone for all kind of help N/C.
If younthink I'm too busy to talk or return phone call, guess again.
We have Nick and now Dan to assist along with Grace.
How do you think we became the major supplier of parts and kit.
On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 5:58 PM Jim Kanomata wrote:
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> On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 5:38 PM Keith V via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> The website only shows the gm part number
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil filter base leak [message #355973 is a reply to message #355961] |
Sun, 21 June 2020 23:59 |
Ken Burton
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Larry wrote on Sun, 21 June 2020 20:00Keith V wrote on Sun, 21 June 2020 19:00Seems silly to bug Jim for a little gasket, oh well I should talk to him about other things anyway.
And Yes it's the adapter to block gasket, not the o ring between the cooler adapter, which BTW is not an old filter gasket, there is a part, Dorman Seal P/N 917-036
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/oil-filter-base-to-oil-cooler-adapter-sealing/p55887-oil-filter-seal-dorman-seal-ph-2-230-o-ring.html
[http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6677/medium/Oil_Filter_-_Dorman_-_O-ring.JPG]
Oil Filter Seal - Dorman Seal - PH 2-230 O-Ring
From left to right is an Oil Filter Seal, a Dorman Seal P/N 917-036 (available from O'Reilly's), and a Parker Hannifin O-ring. I believe that the Parker Hannifin O-ring (PH 2-230) is the best part for the job. Seal groove dimensions are: 2.803 OD X 2.437 ID X .120 Depth.
www.gmcmhphotos.com
I bought several of the Parker Hannifin O-ring (PH 2-230), and tried them out. Actually, a filter gasket from a discarded oil filter (for the Olds 455) when doing an oil change, just seems to work better. Just what I've noticed.
I agree with Larry. I have had the same experience. Re-torque it on the first and maybe second oil change.
On the oil filter adapter to block gasket. A few years ago I as able to get one in stock at a local Auto Value / Bumper to Bumper auto parts store.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Oil filter base leak [message #355975 is a reply to message #355973] |
Mon, 22 June 2020 07:37 |
Larry
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Ken Burton wrote on Sun, 21 June 2020 23:59Larry wrote on Sun, 21 June 2020 20:00Keith V wrote on Sun, 21 June 2020 19:00Seems silly to bug Jim for a little gasket, oh well I should talk to him about other things anyway.
And Yes it's the adapter to block gasket, not the o ring between the cooler adapter, which BTW is not an old filter gasket, there is a part, Dorman Seal P/N 917-036
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/oil-filter-base-to-oil-cooler-adapter-sealing/p55887-oil-filter-seal-dorman-seal-ph-2-230-o-ring.html
[http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6677/medium/Oil_Filter_-_Dorman_-_O-ring.JPG]
Oil Filter Seal - Dorman Seal - PH 2-230 O-Ring
From left to right is an Oil Filter Seal, a Dorman Seal P/N 917-036 (available from O'Reilly's), and a Parker Hannifin O-ring. I believe that the Parker Hannifin O-ring (PH 2-230) is the best part for the job. Seal groove dimensions are: 2.803 OD X 2.437 ID X .120 Depth.
www.gmcmhphotos.com
I bought several of the Parker Hannifin O-ring (PH 2-230), and tried them out. Actually, a filter gasket from a discarded oil filter (for the Olds 455) when doing an oil change, just seems to work better. Just what I've noticed.
I agree with Larry. I have had the same experience. Re-torque it on the first and maybe second oil change.
On the oil filter adapter to block gasket. A few years ago I as able to get one in stock at a local Auto Value / Bumper to Bumper auto parts store.
When I first started this GMC thing the Oil filter o ring was the only thing we had and was being recommended by everyone in the know. I had some leak issues. Got to talking with the great Bob Drews about the o ring and how it squashes out and leaks. He said…”Larry, think about that o ring and what it was designed for on the oil filter. It is a spin on and slides on contact for half a turn. You put a little oil on it so it slides to tighten. Your hands don’t have near the torque that a wrench has when tightening the filter adapter. And the oil filter adapter just tightens straight down with no twist and no oil on the o ring. So when you use the oil filter o ring, don’t oil it down. Put it in and tighten down dry.” So that is what I’ve been doing ever since. Never a leak. JWID
Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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