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Tue, 09 June 2020 20:33  |
Hal StClair
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Just wondering if anyone knows the weight of the empty shell of our GMC's? I'm looking at building an A frame to lift the body off the frame and was wondering if that information was around. I know I can over build it but would rather save the extra expense as the wood will most likely become firewood later. We're talking empty to the bare insulation here but with the windshields in place.
Thanks for any information,
Hal
"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind, except you happen to be insane."
1977 Royale 101348,
1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
Rio Rancho, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] Empty shell weight [message #355533 is a reply to message #355530] |
Wed, 10 June 2020 05:19  |
GMC.LES
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Hal,
Don’t know the weight, but I do know that I’ve supported my full 26’ shell using 6x6 pressure treated posts as cross beams under the body. Two 10’ posts will bow noticeably when supported with cribbing at a width that allows rolling the chassis out. I used 4 posts to share the weight and stay on the safe side.
Les Burt
Montreal
'75 Eleganza 26'
> On Jun 9, 2020, at 9:34 PM, Hal StClair via Gmclist wrote:
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> Just wondering if anyone knows the weight of the empty shell of our GMC's? I'm looking at building an A frame to lift the body off the frame and was
> wondering if that information was around. I know I can over build it but would rather save the extra expense as the wood will most likely become
> firewood later. We're talking empty to the bare insulation here but with the windshields in place.
> Thanks for any information,
> Hal
> --
> "I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind, except you happen to be insane."
>
> 1977 Royale 101348,
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> 1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
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> 1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
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> Rio Rancho, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] Empty shell weight [message #355555 is a reply to message #355530] |
Wed, 10 June 2020 11:03 |
Marsh Wilkes
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I did that in 2004, under a carport. I stood 4- 4X4's vertically on the
concrete and attached
the top of each one to the 2X4 bottom chord of the carport trusses. I used 4
come along's
one out each rear window and each front window with the cable attached near
the top of
each 4X4. Was a piece of cake no effort on the come along's, of course I
kept the lift even.
Don’t remember my weight guesstimate for certain , but I think it was under
3000 lb.
In a free standing configuration 4X4's would be more than adequate with
attachment points
near the top of the A where the verticals and horizontal come together. The
most important
thing would be stabilizing the A frame with guy wires or 2X4's so that it
can't shift side to side.
If You can find them the pictures should still be on the photo site, as I
recall it was listed under
Projects the coach name was Smokey and My name is Marsh Wilkes, you may need
to get Billy to
help You find the pictures.
Good Luck with your Project
I was never able to finish mine
although I got a hell of a start
Marsh (rarely post) Wilkes
Perry Florida
-----Original Message-----
From: Hal StClair via Gmclist
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 9:33 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Cc: Hal StClair
Subject: [GMCnet] Empty shell weight
Just wondering if anyone knows the weight of the empty shell of our GMC's?
I'm looking at building an A frame to lift the body off the frame and was
wondering if that information was around. I know I can over build it but
would rather save the extra expense as the wood will most likely become
firewood later. We're talking empty to the bare insulation here but with the
windshields in place.
Thanks for any information,
Hal
--
"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind,
except you happen to be insane."
1977 Royale 101348,
1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
Rio Rancho, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] Empty shell weight [message #355559 is a reply to message #355555] |
Wed, 10 June 2020 12:05 |
Marsh Wilkes
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Clarification:
I had removed all of the plywood flooring at that point, I was weighing
stuff
as I took it out (list lost) but I think the flooring was 600 or 700 lb.
Still I don’t see any problem with your plan. Just work safe.
Marsh
-----Original Message-----
From: Marsh Wilkes via Gmclist
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 12:03 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Cc: Marsh Wilkes
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Empty shell weight
I did that in 2004, under a carport. I stood 4- 4X4's vertically on the
concrete and attached
the top of each one to the 2X4 bottom chord of the carport trusses. I used 4
come along's
one out each rear window and each front window with the cable attached near
the top of
each 4X4. Was a piece of cake no effort on the come along's, of course I
kept the lift even.
Don’t remember my weight guesstimate for certain , but I think it was under
3000 lb.
In a free standing configuration 4X4's would be more than adequate with
attachment points
near the top of the A where the verticals and horizontal come together. The
most important
thing would be stabilizing the A frame with guy wires or 2X4's so that it
can't shift side to side.
If You can find them the pictures should still be on the photo site, as I
recall it was listed under
Projects the coach name was Smokey and My name is Marsh Wilkes, you may need
to get Billy to
help You find the pictures.
Good Luck with your Project
I was never able to finish mine
although I got a hell of a start
Marsh (rarely post) Wilkes
Perry Florida
-----Original Message-----
From: Hal StClair via Gmclist
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 9:33 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Cc: Hal StClair
Subject: [GMCnet] Empty shell weight
Just wondering if anyone knows the weight of the empty shell of our GMC's?
I'm looking at building an A frame to lift the body off the frame and was
wondering if that information was around. I know I can over build it but
would rather save the extra expense as the wood will most likely become
firewood later. We're talking empty to the bare insulation here but with the
windshields in place.
Thanks for any information,
Hal
--
"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind,
except you happen to be insane."
1977 Royale 101348,
1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
Rio Rancho, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] Empty shell weight [message #355562 is a reply to message #355559] |
Wed, 10 June 2020 14:29 |
sgltrac
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Hal,
I have four 10” 3000 lb castors and custom brackets which will carry the
whole enchilada ( complete coach) plus allow you to roll it around like a
roller skate assuming you have a smooth floor. Two castors are fixed and
two are swiveled. The attachment points are the joint between the side
rails and cradle at the front and directly below the bogies rear. If you
are pulling the body off the chassis like it sounds, it would be simple to
re purpose the castors as outriggers with steel beams. Available at what I
paid.
Sully
Bellevue wa.
On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 10:06 AM Marsh Wilkes via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Clarification:
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> I had removed all of the plywood flooring at that point, I was weighing
> stuff
> as I took it out (list lost) but I think the flooring was 600 or 700 lb.
> Still I don’t see any problem with your plan. Just work safe.
>
> Marsh
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marsh Wilkes via Gmclist
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 12:03 PM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Cc: Marsh Wilkes
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Empty shell weight
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> I did that in 2004, under a carport. I stood 4- 4X4's vertically on the
> concrete and attached
> the top of each one to the 2X4 bottom chord of the carport trusses. I used
> 4
> come along's
> one out each rear window and each front window with the cable attached near
> the top of
> each 4X4. Was a piece of cake no effort on the come along's, of course I
> kept the lift even.
> Don’t remember my weight guesstimate for certain , but I think it was under
> 3000 lb.
> In a free standing configuration 4X4's would be more than adequate with
> attachment points
> near the top of the A where the verticals and horizontal come together. The
> most important
> thing would be stabilizing the A frame with guy wires or 2X4's so that it
> can't shift side to side.
> If You can find them the pictures should still be on the photo site, as I
> recall it was listed under
> Projects the coach name was Smokey and My name is Marsh Wilkes, you may
> need
> to get Billy to
> help You find the pictures.
>
> Good Luck with your Project
> I was never able to finish mine
> although I got a hell of a start
>
> Marsh (rarely post) Wilkes
> Perry Florida
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hal StClair via Gmclist
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 9:33 PM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Cc: Hal StClair
> Subject: [GMCnet] Empty shell weight
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> Just wondering if anyone knows the weight of the empty shell of our GMC's?
> I'm looking at building an A frame to lift the body off the frame and was
> wondering if that information was around. I know I can over build it but
> would rather save the extra expense as the wood will most likely become
> firewood later. We're talking empty to the bare insulation here but with
> the
> windshields in place.
> Thanks for any information,
> Hal
> --
> "I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind,
> except you happen to be insane."
>
> 1977 Royale 101348,
>
> 1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
>
>
>
> 1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
>
> Rio Rancho, NM
>
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77 Royale basket case.
Future motorhome land speed record holder(bucket list)
Seattle, Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Empty shell weight [message #355568 is a reply to message #355559] |
Wed, 10 June 2020 17:31 |
Marsh Wilkes
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I finally found the pictures.
Sadly the detailed captions explaining the pictures
were lost in some kind of photo site crash several years
ago. I was installing an aluminum floor, for numerous reasons,
but I was not able to complete the project, I had to move on.
If You look at the pictures you can see how I rigged the comealong's
to lift the body.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/search.php?searchid=360727&cpage=1
Marsh Wilkes
Perry Florida
-----Original Message-----
From: Marsh Wilkes via Gmclist
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 1:05 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Cc: Marsh Wilkes
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Empty shell weight
Clarification:
I had removed all of the plywood flooring at that point, I was weighing
stuff
as I took it out (list lost) but I think the flooring was 600 or 700 lb.
Still I don’t see any problem with your plan. Just work safe.
Marsh
-----Original Message-----
From: Marsh Wilkes via Gmclist
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 12:03 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Cc: Marsh Wilkes
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Empty shell weight
I did that in 2004, under a carport. I stood 4- 4X4's vertically on the
concrete and attached
the top of each one to the 2X4 bottom chord of the carport trusses. I used 4
come along's
one out each rear window and each front window with the cable attached near
the top of
each 4X4. Was a piece of cake no effort on the come along's, of course I
kept the lift even.
Don’t remember my weight guesstimate for certain , but I think it was under
3000 lb.
In a free standing configuration 4X4's would be more than adequate with
attachment points
near the top of the A where the verticals and horizontal come together. The
most important
thing would be stabilizing the A frame with guy wires or 2X4's so that it
can't shift side to side.
If You can find them the pictures should still be on the photo site, as I
recall it was listed under
Projects the coach name was Smokey and My name is Marsh Wilkes, you may need
to get Billy to
help You find the pictures.
Good Luck with your Project
I was never able to finish mine
although I got a hell of a start
Marsh (rarely post) Wilkes
Perry Florida
-----Original Message-----
From: Hal StClair via Gmclist
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 9:33 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Cc: Hal StClair
Subject: [GMCnet] Empty shell weight
Just wondering if anyone knows the weight of the empty shell of our GMC's?
I'm looking at building an A frame to lift the body off the frame and was
wondering if that information was around. I know I can over build it but
would rather save the extra expense as the wood will most likely become
firewood later. We're talking empty to the bare insulation here but with the
windshields in place.
Thanks for any information,
Hal
--
"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind,
except you happen to be insane."
1977 Royale 101348,
1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
Rio Rancho, NM
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| Re: Empty shell weight [message #355594 is a reply to message #355530] |
Thu, 11 June 2020 16:16 |
Hal StClair
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Thank you all for your insights, the 3000 lbs seems reasonable and certainly doable foe a solo operation.
Thanks again, Hal
"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind, except you happen to be insane."
1977 Royale 101348,
1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered,
1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout,
Rio Rancho, NM
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