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| Re: Recommended C/O and gas detector? [message #354073 is a reply to message #354071] |
Thu, 23 April 2020 17:15   |
jhbridges
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I use Kidde.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Recommended C/O and gas detector? [message #354082 is a reply to message #354073] |
Thu, 23 April 2020 23:29 |
jimk
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I have used the Safe T Alert, is dedicated to rv and have features that
other home unit do not have.
I'm sure these are more than the home unit , but your coach not like a
house in many ways.
One need th CO detectors as well as the furnace can have a burned hole in
the chamber.
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| Re: Recommended C/O and gas detector? [message #354106 is a reply to message #354071] |
Sat, 25 April 2020 06:57 |
6cuda6
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So i got to thinking....Carbon Monoxide is lighter than air and propane is heavier.....is it better to have 2 separate detectors instead of a combined unit? It just seems like a combined unit would be a compromise on both sides?
What are the masses doing? Do you even have one/both?
Rich Mondor,
Brockville, ON
77 Hughes 2600
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| Re: Recommended C/O and gas detector? [message #354108 is a reply to message #354106] |
Sat, 25 April 2020 07:23 |
lqqkatjon
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Both is better. But the standards say that location of having one high and one low is not needed, because it generally mixes in the air enough to safely detect at any level. There is a document out there that states that. So a combo unit is fine.
Like Jim said, a true Rv rated one is certified for like -40 to 120 degrees, and some vibration standard. Where a home unit is 40 to 100 degrees.
I have always used home units. But I use at least two. I will probably wise up and get an RV one with the 10 year lithium battery soon.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] Recommended C/O and gas detector? [message #354109 is a reply to message #354108] |
Sat, 25 April 2020 08:18 |
Emery Stora
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It is generally recommended that a smoke detector be replaced every 8 years and a carbon monoxide detector every 5 years. Some people also have a propane detector which also usually has a 5 year life. Sometimes there is a combined carbon monoxide and propane detector. Some of these detectors have less than a 5 year life. So be sure to read the manufacturer’s instructions. You can write the replacement date in the battery compartment.
I am most concerned with the “silent killer” carbon monoxide as you cannot detect it with your nose and if you have a propane furnace it could developer a leak in the firebox. If your furnace develops a leak you have no way to tell except with a carbon monoxide detector.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Apr 25, 2020, at 6:24 AM, Jon Roche via Gmclist wrote:
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> Both is better. But the standards say that location of having one high and one low is not needed, because it generally mixes in the air enough to
> safely detect at any level. There is a document out there that states that. So a combo unit is fine.
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> Like Jim said, a true Rv rated one is certified for like -40 to 120 degrees, and some vibration standard. Where a home unit is 40 to 100 degrees.
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> I have always used home units. But I use at least two. I will probably wise up and get an RV one with the 10 year lithium battery soon.
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> Jon Roche
> 75 palm beach
> EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
> St. Cloud, MN
> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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| Re: Recommended C/O and gas detector? [message #354115 is a reply to message #354106] |
Sat, 25 April 2020 10:57 |
Ken Burton
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Let me re-enforce Emery's posting on CO (Carbon Monoxide) detection. I got carbon monoxided about 15 years ago and it took years to recover. I am not sure that I ever completely recovered. There is nothing you can do to speed up the recovery if you do not die from it. I still react negatively any time I am around a running vehicle.
So if you are only going to do one, I strongly suggest CO detection. I have two in my basement where my furnace and water heater are located. I have two more in the upstairs living area of my home. I have two (front and rear) in my GMC. I also have two in my hangar that occasionally go off when running a vehicle in there even with the big front door open and the exhaust fan running.
I have thought about a propane one in my GMC but I never installed one.
I also never run my furnace when sleeping in the GMC.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: Recommended C/O and gas detector? [message #354130 is a reply to message #354071] |
Sat, 25 April 2020 17:53 |
jhbridges
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The Kidde one I got points out the detection system degrades and hence five years is its life, and at that point it shuts off and alarms. Throw it away and get another like Emery sez.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: Recommended C/O and gas detector? [message #354155 is a reply to message #354071] |
Sun, 26 April 2020 15:39 |
Tilerpep
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Location: Raleigh, NC
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My two cents is to have multiples of each kind. Each GMC coach I have smoke and CO repeated fore and aft. Some are combo units, some are one function. I have a plug in CO and propane that I use when I actually am set up in camp. My next step is to add constant propane detection, but you can smell it when awake, and I have a detector when I'm asleep). In my camper van (1996 Dodge) rear near floor is a built in propane/CO and I added a smoke and CO independent units behind the cockpit seats. If you really want to give it your best shot at early detection (home as well) be sure you have the two types of smoke detector (ionization and photoelectric) as they do things just slightly different enough that it might give you the edge between early, close call, and too late. To your dificulty/expense of what to get in Canada - I would think more commonly available house rated ones, redundant, and replaced on a two or three year cycle would cost less and you could still do multiples...? Maybe?
1975 Glenbrook, 1978 Royale rear bath
Raleigh, NC
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