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Question [message #353994] Tue, 21 April 2020 21:32 Go to next message
Fipp is currently offline  Fipp   United States
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Hi everyone,
Recently installed my digipanel which I have had for a couple of years and finally got installed. Tonite we drove about an hour to eat and I noticed that it ran yellow on engine temperature for almost the entire trip and back. Some interesting things: 1) alarm went off about 25 minutes into the trip when coasting through a small town but quickly subsided when coach idled. 2) previous owner installed a stop cock to shut off what I call the heater box under the hood as PO said it helped him cool the rig in summer. Since it was a rather cool evening I stopped and opened the stop cock thinking that allowing heat would maybe cool the engine down but it did not. It seemed to run green when idling but once up to speed went to yellow. I do have a guage that I believe is working but doesn't move and doesn't show hot at all. I am wondering if it is normal for the digipanel to show yellow? My overflow tank is full. Just wondering if anyone can offer me any ideas. Thank you


Scott D. Fippinger Aledo, Illinois 1976 Royale
Re: [GMCnet] Question [message #353996 is a reply to message #353994] Tue, 21 April 2020 22:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Check the actual coolant temperature with a wireless digital temp reader
aimed at the thermostat housing and the top tank of the radiator. Perhaps
your digi panel is not accurately reporting the temp. They can fail just as
easily as anything else can. Always, always, verify that you actually do
have a problem before you try to fix it.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, 7:32 PM Fipp via Gmclist
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> Hi everyone,
> Recently installed my digipanel which I have had for a couple of years and
> finally got installed. Tonite we drove about an hour to eat and I noticed
> that it ran yellow on engine temperature for almost the entire trip and
> back. Some interesting things: 1) alarm went off about 25 minutes into the
> trip when coasting through a small town but quickly subsided when coach
> idled. 2) previous owner installed a stop cock to shut off what I call the
> heater box under the hood as PO said it helped him cool the rig in
> summer. Since it was a rather cool evening I stopped and opened the stop
> cock
> thinking that allowing heat would maybe cool the engine down but it did
> not. It seemed to run green when idling but once up to speed went to
> yellow. I
> do have a guage that I believe is working but doesn't move and doesn't
> show hot at all. I am wondering if it is normal for the digipanel to show
> yellow? My overflow tank is full. Just wondering if anyone can offer me
> any ideas. Thank you
> --
> Scott D. Fippinger
> Aledo, Illinois
> 1976 Royale
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Question [message #354000 is a reply to message #353994] Wed, 22 April 2020 06:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Billy Massey is currently offline  Billy Massey   United States
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The yellow light indicates that the coolant temperature is running hotter
than normal. You should check for problems. Just because the catch can is
full doesn't necessarily mean it's working. Make sure the hoses are clear
and not stopped up. When cold, take the cap off the radiator to insure
that it is full.
Those digital temperature guns are very handy gadgets to double check
things. Very useful in several places on the GMC.
I looked at Applied GMC at the Digi-Panel instructions but was unable to
determine at what temperature the yellow light comes on. That would be
very good information to have. I expect around 210* or so.
On the OEM temperature gauge, normal is 1/4 way up the dial. At halfway
up, you're overheating. A common mod is to install a different temperature
sender so that it reads at the halfway mark at normal as we think it
should. It is NAPA #TS-6469. See here:
http://gmcmotorhome.info/engine.html#sender

bdub

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 9:32 PM Fipp via Gmclist
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> Recently installed my digipanel whic I have had for a couple of years and
> finally got installed. Tonite we drove about an hour to eat and I noticed
> that it ran yellow on engine temperature for almost the entire trip and
> back. Some interesting things: 1) alarm went off about 25 minutes into the
> trip when coasting through a small town but quickly subsided when coach
> idled. 2) previous owner installed a stop cock to shut off what I call the
> heater box under the hood as PO said it helped him cool the rig in summer.
> Since it was a rather cool evening I stopped and opened the stop cock
> thinking that allowing heat would maybe cool the engine down but it did
> not. It seemed to run green when idling but once up to speed went to
> yellow. I do have a guage that I believe is working but doesn't move and
> doesn't show hot at all. I am wondering if it is normal for the digipanel
> to show yellow? My overflow tank is full. Just wondering if anyone can
> offer me any ideas. Thank you
>
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Re: Question [message #354004 is a reply to message #353994] Wed, 22 April 2020 08:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnL455 is currently offline  JohnL455   United States
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I’d start by inspecting the cap. They have several fail modes. Very common is the invisible spring on the center return poppet valve fails. Then coolant pumps out each time you get warm and no pressure in system. Constantly underfilled. You could have a stat that has failed in in a partly open mode. This happened to me this year where the hoop came detached from the body and main spring went sideways. Since gone to Flowkooler 195. Very accurate. Check overflow hose for cracks and porosity by flexing. This sucks air during cooling cycle and radiator is not full even though reservoir looks good. Lastly inspect your fan clutch. There is extensive procedure in svc manual. Usually these vehicles do not overheat idling. Dissipating road load heat is the challenge. Depending how the clutch has failed, of several ways, it might be transmitting power spinning fairly well at idle, but not transmitting enough at demand. Or the bimetallic spring is gummed up and can’t turn valve properly. These I spray with WD-40 to act as a flushing solvent, wait for it to dissolve gunk then spray again to wash it away. They all leak a bit of silicone and the tons of air going past it attracts road dirt to the silicone oil till all spaces on coil are packed with dirt. Additionally you should hear “fan roar” for at least 2 minutes at every cold morning start. If not, then the clutch has lost too much fluid and needs replacing. Sitting over night the fluid by gravity goes partly into the working chamber and rotation with valve in disengaged position takes about 2 mins to self pump it back into the internal reservoir non working area.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II

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Re: Question [message #354006 is a reply to message #354004] Wed, 22 April 2020 09:22 Go to previous message
Christo is currently offline  Christo   United States
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How's your fan shroud? It's an important piece of the puzzle as well.

Christo Darsch
GMC Nor'easters
1977 Eleganza II - "The Komet"
3.50 Power Drive, Disc Brakes, Alcoas
Weymouth, MA
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