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THOMAS R WHITTON is currently offline  THOMAS R WHITTON   United States
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Oops, using wrong subject before.  Sorry.
There has been a lot about tires on this site but I don't remember this subject being addressed.
Reasons for Yellow and Reddots on new tires 

The Yellow Dot

When tires are made, they are almost never perfectly balanced.Most manufacturers will place a yellow dot on the section of the tire wherethere is least weight. The technician is then supposed to line up this yellowdot to where the valve stem is located. Where the valve stem is located isthe heaviest point of the wheel. By aligning the lightest spot on thetire with the heaviest point on the wheel, the tire/wheel balance is as close tooptimal as can be. As such, you won't be using as many lead weights aroundthe wheel to balance out the tire and wheel. Using fewer weights means you geta more balanced wheel, which then means a quieter, more comfortable ride, and alonger-lasting tire. All these add up to significant savings for theuser.

The Red Dot

In the same way tires are never perfectly balanced from themanufacturer, tires are never perfectly round, either, even when new. They havehigh and low points because of where the belts are joined, and these points cancause vibrations when a tire is rolling. The red dot indicates the tire's highpoint. Most of the time, a wheel will also have a dot—either a drilled dot or asticker to indicate its low point. If you have these marks, you should alignthe red dot with the mark on the wheel. By doing this, you minimize thevibration caused by the high point of the tire. Minimized vibration is a goodthing and ultimately also saves you money.




Tom Whitton

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Re: [GMCnet] Fw: Subject: Re: (GMC Net) Dots on tires [message #353967 is a reply to message #353944] Tue, 21 April 2020 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Scott Nutter is currently offline  Scott Nutter   United States
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Thanks Tom.
More good info that I didn’t know. I am smarter now!!
I wonder how many tire installers also don’t know this?
Thanks, Scott.


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Re: [GMCnet] Fw: Subject: Re: (GMC Net) Dots on tires [message #353974 is a reply to message #353967] Tue, 21 April 2020 13:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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At least 95% of the Tire Monkeys ignore or do not know about the dots on new tires. It takes at least another 5 seconds for them to line them up before inflating them.

Ken Burton - N9KB
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Re: [GMCnet] Fw: Subject: Re: (GMC Net) Dots on tires [message #353979 is a reply to message #353944] Tue, 21 April 2020 14:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
THOMAS R WHITTON is currently offline  THOMAS R WHITTON   United States
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This monkey here didn't know what the dots were for either.  The dots on my new tires were in random places on my wheels when I looked after I got home so I looked it up.  Low and behold, the dots have a purpose and it makes sense.  You would think managers at tire stores would tell new employees how to line up the dots on wheels.  Apparently, they don't.  Now we can remind them.
Tom Whitton26 foot updated GMCPaducah, KY
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Re: [GMCnet] Fw: Subject: Re: (GMC Net) Dots on tires [message #353981 is a reply to message #353974] Tue, 21 April 2020 15:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I can't remember what the spot represents; heaviest or lightest point of tire. Would determine whether spot is AT the valve stem or opposite from it.

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At least 95% of the Tire Monkeys ignore or do not know about the dots on new tires. It takes at least another 5 seconds for them to line them up
before inflating them.
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Re: [GMCnet] Fw: Subject: Re: (GMC Net) Dots on tires [message #353982 is a reply to message #353944] Tue, 21 April 2020 16:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wonder if the Alcoa’s on our GMC’s also have a mark to determine the low spot on the rim? If they do I would assume the mark to be on the inside or backside. Would it be a punch mark?
Scott.


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I expect the Alcoas are perfect! No dot needed.


On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 4:33 PM Scott Nutter via Gmclist <
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> I wonder if the Alcoa’s on our GMC’s also have a mark to determine the low
> spot on the rim? If they do I would assume the mark to be on the inside
> or backside. Would it be a punch mark?
> Scott.
> --
> Scott Nutter
> 1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final
> drive, Quad bags, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera
> installed MSD Atomic EFI
> Houston, Texas
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Re: [GMCnet] Fw: Subject: Re: (GMC Net) Dots on tires [message #353984 is a reply to message #353982] Tue, 21 April 2020 16:50 Go to previous message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Alcoas, Eagles, and many other fully machined wheels do not usually have
heavy or light sides. They start out with a solid block of virgin aluminum
or alloy's of it. They are fully machined in a multi axis computerized
machine that closely resembles a milling machine. Extreme precision
machinery. No egg shapes here.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, 2:33 PM Scott Nutter via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> I wonder if the Alcoa’s on our GMC’s also have a mark to determine the low
> spot on the rim? If they do I would assume the mark to be on the inside
> or backside. Would it be a punch mark?
> Scott.
> --
> Scott Nutter
> 1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final
> drive, Quad bags, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera
> installed MSD Atomic EFI
> Houston, Texas
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