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Wheel Question - Eagle brand [message #353903] Fri, 17 April 2020 12:54 Go to next message
agoogol is currently offline  agoogol   United States
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So my PO bought 6 16" Eagle wheels at some point. Apparently these are no longer made. He left his spare the 16.5 OEM, which has a 20 year old tire on it, and all the 16's have 10 year old tires. So I am replacing tires, and one wheel.... So I guess have two questions...

1. Anyone have an Eagle brand wheel for sale or know where to get one?

2. I assume I will not be able to find one, so I most likely need another brand alternative 16" replacement for my spare. Applied sells the Ion ones, but apparently they require different lug nuts? Any other recommendations?

Can't anything be easy? Smile I want a cheap and easy upgrade to make me feel like I am accomplishing something!


Kevin Carter 1977 Kingsley - 403 c.i. Centennial CO
Re: Wheel Question - Eagle brand [message #353915 is a reply to message #353903] Sat, 18 April 2020 15:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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For the spare, just get a 16" steel rim. Cover it on the spare rack and no one will even notice. I won't tell if you don't tell.
You will have the lug nut problem. Carry spares in the correct size and the tool to remove each size.
Tom


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Re: Wheel Question - Eagle brand [message #353948 is a reply to message #353915] Mon, 20 April 2020 23:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok, what's the bolt spacing for these?

Kevin Carter 1977 Kingsley - 403 c.i. Centennial CO
Re: Wheel Question - Eagle brand [message #353956 is a reply to message #353903] Tue, 21 April 2020 08:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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you may try to call Jim K on the rim. you don't know unless you call him. Maybe some other venders as well, as they all used to sell them. Finding a used one might be a bit of a challenge.


for a spare, you could buy an ion rim and set of lug nuts. it will cost a little more, but an aluminum rim is way lighter then a steel rim. I carry a 16.5 rim/tire for a spare, as they are readily available, and i had 12 rims/tires at one time. a 16" steel rim that fits, is also getting to be a rare rim to find. if you did any changes to the front brakes(80mm upgrade), a 16" steel rim may have a clearance issue as well. so I am actually an odd situation and driving around with 3 different style rims. my back 4 are alcoa, my front 2 are dodge, and my spare is a 16.5 OEM. I carry a set of lugnuts for the spare.

to find a 16" steel rim, you need to look for an older dually 16" rim, that has a 4 9/16" center bore, and is rounded "bell" shaped and not a cone shaped. they can be tricky to identify. AS far as bolt patter, I can't even remember what it is, but if you find a dually rim with that center bore and a bell shaped, I am pretty sure the bolt pattern works.

there are photos on the photo site to help identify the proper 16" steel wheel, but even after hunting them for many years some photos still throw me off.



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Re: Wheel Question - Eagle brand [message #353958 is a reply to message #353948] Tue, 21 April 2020 09:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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IIRC, bolt spacing is 8 X 6.5 inches. 4.567 center hole.

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Question - Eagle brand [message #353976 is a reply to message #353958] Tue, 21 April 2020 13:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Eagles are no longer made.
Typical family problems ended it.


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Re: Wheel Question - Eagle brand [message #353987 is a reply to message #353956] Tue, 21 April 2020 17:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for the note. I did call Applied, talked to Derek? I think it was. Helpful, nice, but not helpful in the sense that they don't have any used ones. The PO did pass on his old spare, which was an original 16.5" rim.

So now my choices are find a steel duallie rim, and buy a 16" tire, buy an Ion and 16" tire, or just use the old 16.65" rim OEM and try to find a tire that will fit that!

Sigh.


Kevin Carter 1977 Kingsley - 403 c.i. Centennial CO
Re: Wheel Question - Eagle brand [message #354005 is a reply to message #353987] Wed, 22 April 2020 08:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If the old 16.5 holds air for a month, get some original type lug nuts to carry in your toolbox and a cover for the spare tire and look for 2 things going forward: 1) A deal on a decent used or new 16.5 tire, and 2) A wheel to match your eagles. If you wait for it, it will come to you, and CYA in the meantime Cool

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: Wheel Question - Eagle brand [message #354013 is a reply to message #354005] Wed, 22 April 2020 11:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The 16" dually steel rim will not clear 80mm front caliper. Just my experience.
Tom





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Re: Wheel Question - Eagle brand [message #354015 is a reply to message #354013] Wed, 22 April 2020 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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tphipps wrote on Wed, 22 April 2020 11:54
The 16" dually steel rim will not clear 80mm front caliper. Just my experience.
Tom




That is correct. but from what I have been told by a couple others running the 16" steel rim, you can machine(or carefully grind), the 80mm caliper to get the clearance needed..

That is why I think I am keeping my 16.5" spare rather then take one of the 5 16" steel rims I have to use as the spare.


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Re: Wheel Question - Eagle brand [message #354027 is a reply to message #354015] Wed, 22 April 2020 21:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks gentlemen! Much appreciated. And 80mm calipers are of no concern. No upgrade in that area for awhile.

Kevin Carter 1977 Kingsley - 403 c.i. Centennial CO
Re: Wheel Question - Eagle brand [message #354031 is a reply to message #353903] Thu, 23 April 2020 06:49 Go to previous message
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I have Eagle wheels but a OEM steel wheel for a spare. I've been looking for an Eagle wheel for the spare. I had to use the spare back in 2013, but only for a few hours while I found a new replacement for the blown tire.

The spare tire was 15 year old last year so I bought a new Transforce replacement tire for that rim. Since the spare is hidden under a fiberglass cover, it really doesn't bother me. So I guess if I have to buy a replacement 16.5" tire every 10 years its not so bad... if it was a 16" eagle I'd still be replacing the tire.


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