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Thetford to Black Tank Seal [message #353877] Thu, 16 April 2020 19:14 Go to next message
Jeremy Sanford is currently offline  Jeremy Sanford   United States
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Hello, first post.
I need the rubber seal "O" ring that goes between the Thetford valve and the black tank on a stock '77 GMC. The GM Parts Book list p/n 701212, but this brings up nothing online. The O ring mounts on the valve on a 3.5" flange. My valve is fine, just need this O ring as mine is dried out and cracked causing a little drip.

Thanks
Jeremy


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Re: Thetford to Black Tank Seal [message #353881 is a reply to message #353877] Thu, 16 April 2020 20:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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I know that item is available. I just do not remember where I saw it. Call Jim K. at Applied GMC. I'll be he has it or can get it.
1-800-752-7502


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Hebron, Indiana
Re: Thetford to Black Tank Seal [message #353882 is a reply to message #353881] Thu, 16 April 2020 20:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jeremy Sanford is currently offline  Jeremy Sanford   United States
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Applied was the first place I called, unfortunately they sell the whole valve assembly, but not just the O ring.

Jeremy Sanford
Sacramento, CA
1977 Kingsley
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/u42733-jsanford.html

 

Re: Thetford to Black Tank Seal [message #353887 is a reply to message #353882] Thu, 16 April 2020 23:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Let me think on that one for a while. I bought one once many years ago. I just do not remember where.

You might try calling Thetford direct at:
Phone: 1-800-543-1219, 1-734-769-6000
Fax: 1-734-769-2332

They are in Ann Arbor, MI


Ken Burton - N9KB
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Re: [GMCnet] Thetford to Black Tank Seal [message #353894 is a reply to message #353887] Fri, 17 April 2020 10:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powwerjon is currently offline  powwerjon   United States
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You can get this part at any RV supply store that may be considered an
"essential business" and may be open.

You want a "Closet Flange Seal Service Package" which includes the closet
flange seal , 2 closet bolts and nuts. I have purchased just the seal by
itself at my local RV supply. They do very by part number depending on
which toilet that you have. You can go here to see that part and part
number that you need:

https://www.thetford.com/parts/rv-toilets/

Regards,

J.R. Wright
GMC Great Laker
GMCGL Tech Editor
GMC Eastern States
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TZE Zone Restorations
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On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 9:05 PM Ken Burton via Gmclist <
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> Let me think on that one for a while. I bought one once many years ago.
> I just do not remember where.
>
> You might try calling Thetford direct at:
> Phone: 1-800-543-1219, 1-734-769-6000
> Fax: 1-734-769-2332
>
> They are in Ann Arbor, MI
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> 76 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] Thetford to Black Tank Seal [message #353901 is a reply to message #353894] Fri, 17 April 2020 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Like most items, we stock them.
They are not popular so you'll not find them at RV places.

On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 8:23 AM John Wright via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> You can get this part at any RV supply store that may be considered an
> "essential business" and may be open.
>
> You want a "Closet Flange Seal Service Package" which includes the closet
> flange seal , 2 closet bolts and nuts. I have purchased just the seal by
> itself at my local RV supply. They do very by part number depending on
> which toilet that you have. You can go here to see that part and part
> number that you need:
>
> https://www.thetford.com/parts/rv-toilets/
>
> Regards,
>
> J.R. Wright
> GMC Great Laker
> GMCGL Tech Editor
> GMC Eastern States
> GMCMHI
> TZE Zone Restorations
> 78 Buskirk Custom 29.5' Stretch
> 75 Avion (Under going Frame up Restoration)
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 9:05 PM Ken Burton via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Let me think on that one for a while. I bought one once many years ago.
>> I just do not remember where.
>>
>> You might try calling Thetford direct at:
>> Phone: 1-800-543-1219, 1-734-769-6000
>> Fax: 1-734-769-2332
>>
>> They are in Ann Arbor, MI
>> --
>> Ken Burton - N9KB
>> 76 Palm Beach
>> Hebron, Indiana
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Re: Thetford to Black Tank Seal [message #353902 is a reply to message #353877] Fri, 17 April 2020 12:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jeremy Sanford is currently offline  Jeremy Sanford   United States
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Well I called Thetford and they told me that the O ring is not a replaceable part and I have to order a new valve!

I looked at the link provided by J.R. but it is all toilet parts, I am working on the Thetford valve on the black tank.

It was suggested that Thetford 09872 repair kit contains the needed O ring, but it seems silly to spend $20 for a bunch of seals I don't need. Oh well.



Jeremy Sanford
Sacramento, CA
1977 Kingsley
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/u42733-jsanford.html

 

Re: [GMCnet] Thetford to Black Tank Seal [message #353904 is a reply to message #353901] Fri, 17 April 2020 12:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jeremy Sanford is currently offline  Jeremy Sanford   United States
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Jim,

I called yesterday, you don't have the O ring by itself, just the whole valve.


Jeremy Sanford
Sacramento, CA
1977 Kingsley
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/u42733-jsanford.html

 

Re: Thetford to Black Tank Seal [message #353905 is a reply to message #353877] Fri, 17 April 2020 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jeremy Sanford is currently offline  Jeremy Sanford   United States
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Re: Thetford to Black Tank Seal [message #353906 is a reply to message #353877] Fri, 17 April 2020 14:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maybe this?
https://www.allorings.com/O-Ring-AS568-Standard-Size-Chart


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Re: [GMCnet] Thetford to Black Tank Seal [message #353907 is a reply to message #353906] Fri, 17 April 2020 15:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Emery Stora is currently offline  Emery Stora   United States
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No. It’s not an O ring.
Do a search on the Internet for a Thetford toilet flangers seal.

Emery Stora

> On Apr 17, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Larry via Gmclist wrote:
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> Maybe this?
> https://www.allorings.com/O-Ring-AS568-Standard-Size-Chart
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Re: Thetford to Black Tank Seal [message #353910 is a reply to message #353877] Sat, 18 April 2020 13:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There seems to be some minor confusion here. Jeremy does not need the closet flange seal, what he needs is the O-ring that seals the Slide-EZ valve to the black tank flange.

Jeremy-

O-rings are specified by the diameter of the "rope" that the are made from and the ID of the circle of that rope. If you to measure the depth of the grove that O-ring goes in, you want one that is about 125% of that depth. I may have a valve in my barn (I don't think so, but I will check next time I am out there)and I would send along the numbers. That may not be right because there were two different valves used for GMC. One is all plastic and the older has a stainless cover on the tank side.

Do not even bother contacting Thetford (or if you do don't expect much). In my recent dealings with the company, I was very impressed by the complete and total lack on anything like customer service and support. Even with part numbers in hand (I am in striking range) I could not talk to anybody directly, I had to work though a telephone maze and I finally got an order placed. (That was a mistake.) When no parts arrived, I called back hoping to get a tracking number and was told that if you were not a standing client, they would always wait 3 days before they pulled the order for shipment. This was day 4 and it had not left yet. I cancelled the order and drove 30 miles to a shop that did have the parts in stock.

I really wanted to change the tank to a Valterra valve (way cheaper and more available and part are on a pin at the local places), but the bolt holes are all wrong and may first attempt at an adapter failed. When I come up for air, maybe I will try again.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Thetford to Black Tank Seal [message #353914 is a reply to message #353910] Sat, 18 April 2020 15:06 Go to previous message
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WE are a dealer for ALL RV suppliers and have access to parts as long as it
is available.
We spend time to supply people for a two dollar part, Unlike the others.
That's why we became the largest supplier.
Also knowledgeable about RV and GMC MH

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 11:54 AM Matt Colie via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> There seems to be some minor confusion here. Jeremy does not need the
> closet flange seal, what he needs is the O-ring that seals the Slide-EZ
> valve
> to the black tank flange.
>
> Jeremy-
>
> O-rings are specified by the diameter of the "rope" that the are made from
> and the ID of the circle of that rope. If you to measure the depth of the
> grove that O-ring goes in, you want one that is about 125% of that depth.
> I may have a valve in my barn (I don't think so, but I will check next time
> I am out there)and I would send along the numbers. That may not be right
> because there were two different valves used for GMC. One is all plastic
> and the older has a stainless cover on the tank side.
>
> Do not even bother contacting Thetford (or if you do don't expect much).
> In my recent dealings with the company, I was very impressed by the complete
> and total lack on anything like customer service and support. Even with
> part numbers in hand (I am in striking range) I could not talk to anybody
> directly, I had to work though a telephone maze and I finally got an order
> placed. (That was a mistake.) When no parts arrived, I called back hoping
> to get a tracking number and was told that if you were not a standing
> client, they would always wait 3 days before they pulled the order for
> shipment.
> This was day 4 and it had not left yet. I cancelled the order and drove
> 30 miles to a shop that did have the parts in stock.
>
> I really wanted to change the tank to a Valterra valve (way cheaper and
> more available and part are on a pin at the local places), but the bolt
> holes
> are all wrong and may first attempt at an adapter failed. When I come up
> for air, maybe I will try again.
>
> Matt
> --
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