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Black tank mounting bolts? [message #353611] Thu, 09 April 2020 05:55 Go to next message
6cuda6 is currently offline  6cuda6   Canada
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Anyone have a picture or know exactly were the black tank bolts attach to the coach one a single tank system?
Looking under my coach [im in the process of making ramps] i see that the PO wired up one of the black tank mounting straps to the cross member and although i'm not a betting man would gamble to the fact that the bolt broke. I am hoping you'll say they are "J" bolts that hook into the frame like the ones used for most fuel tank install but that would just be to easy.

The one that broke is on the left side [driver side or street side as we call it in my trade] if that makes a difference.

thanks



Rich Mondor, Brockville, ON 77 Hughes 2600
Re: Black tank mounting bolts? [message #353612 is a reply to message #353611] Thu, 09 April 2020 06:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rich

I don't have pictures, but I did have the floor exposed there and I believe they were carriage head bolts up through the floor. The tank is mounted to the body so it moves with the body (toilet and other plumbing connections) and not with the frame.

BTW, I have a new black tank here in S. Ontario if you find you have cracks or leaks.



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77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.
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Re: Black tank mounting bolts? [message #353613 is a reply to message #353612] Thu, 09 April 2020 07:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
6cuda6 is currently offline  6cuda6   Canada
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Thanks Bruce...i was affraid they went through the floor Confused
I hope it not under the wood flooring the PO put down.

Oh thats awesome, ill keep that in mind as well.

RF_Burns wrote on Thu, 09 April 2020 07:03
Rich

I don't have pictures, but I did have the floor exposed there and I believe they were carriage head bolts up through the floor. The tank is mounted to the body so it moves with the body (toilet and other plumbing connections) and not with the frame.

BTW, I have a new black tank here in S. Ontario if you find you have cracks or leaks.



Rich Mondor, Brockville, ON 77 Hughes 2600
Re: Black tank mounting bolts? [message #353621 is a reply to message #353611] Thu, 09 April 2020 09:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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on GM coaches, they are a carridge bolt that goes through the floor. depending on your floorplan, depends on access on how easy they are to replace. on my palm beach, some are under cabnetry, others under the flooring(carpet). I was able to replace one that was under my carpet, the other one I carefully cut it off, and welded on some treaded rod because it was not going to go up and out under the cabinet, yet the threads were buggered and it broke when trying to remove the nuts.



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Re: [GMCnet] Black tank mounting bolts? [message #353632 is a reply to message #353621] Thu, 09 April 2020 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lcoldren is currently offline  lcoldren   United States
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I had the same problem with one of my black tank bolts. Not wanting to weld the threaded to the cut off bolt I used wire rope clamps to attach the rod. Still good after 18 years.

Larry C
Ft. Collins CO
74 Canyon Lands
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on GM coaches, they are a carridge bolt that goes through the floor. depending on your floorplan, depends on access on how easy they are to
replace. on my palm beach, some are under cabnetry, others under the floor. I was able to replace one that was under my carpet, the other one I
carefully cut it off, and welded on some treaded rod because it was not going to go up and out under the cabinet, yet the threads were buggered and it
broke when trying to remove the nuts.


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EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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Re: [GMCnet] Black tank mounting bolts? [message #353634 is a reply to message #353632] Thu, 09 April 2020 13:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey, Jim, how do you replace them without touching them??? ;-)

RonC

On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 11:03:54 -0700 James Hupy via Gmclist
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I used to work on quite a few of them, but now I limit myself
to
ONLY WORKING ON REPLACEMENT of old stuff with brand new tanks,
and all downstream drain plumbing, mascerator installs with all new
plumbing.
Dealing with 40 year old cracked plastic has taught me quite a
bit.
All I need to know, in fact, about waste tanks in GMCs.
DON'T TOUCH THEM. NOT NOW, NOT NEVER.
You guys do as you wish.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon


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Re: [GMCnet] Black tank mounting bolts? [message #353635 is a reply to message #353634] Thu, 09 April 2020 13:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sawzall and floor jack with a 2' x 2' piece of plywood on the jack pad. Cut
all the plumbing and the straps, and lower away. Roll it out into the
driveway, and throw it in the back of my truck. Then off to the recycle
center with the whole mess. Throw away the rubber gloves along with the
tanks.
I hate em.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020, 11:30 AM rallymaster--- via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

>
> Hey, Jim, how do you replace them without touching them??? ;-)
>
> RonC
>
> On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 11:03:54 -0700 James Hupy via Gmclist
> writes:
>
>
> I used to work on quite a few of them, but now I limit myself
> to
> ONLY WORKING ON REPLACEMENT of old stuff with brand new tanks,
> and all downstream drain plumbing, mascerator installs with all new
> plumbing.
> Dealing with 40 year old cracked plastic has taught me quite a
> bit.
> All I need to know, in fact, about waste tanks in GMCs.
> DON'T TOUCH THEM. NOT NOW, NOT NEVER.
> You guys do as you wish.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Black tank mounting bolts? [message #353636 is a reply to message #353632] Thu, 09 April 2020 14:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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then throw the truck away or just have the bed replaced???? snicker,
snicker, chuckle, snort.
OK, I'll drop the subject (without the sawzall and floor jack.)
ron.


On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 11:59:43 -0700 James Hupy via Gmclist
writes:
> Sawzall and floor jack with a 2' x 2' piece of plywood on the jack
> pad. Cut
> all the plumbing and the straps, and lower away. Roll it out into
> the
> driveway, and throw it in the back of my truck. Then off to the
> recycle
> center with the whole mess. Throw away the rubber gloves along with
> the
> tanks.
> I hate em.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020, 11:30 AM rallymaster--- via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey, Jim, how do you replace them without touching them??? ;-)
>>
>> RonC
>>
>> On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 11:03:54 -0700 James Hupy via Gmclist
>> writes:
>>
>>
>> I used to work on quite a few of them, but now I limit myself
>> to
>> ONLY WORKING ON REPLACEMENT of old stuff with brand new tanks,
>> and all downstream drain plumbing, mascerator installs with all
> new
>> plumbing.
>> Dealing with 40 year old cracked plastic has taught me quite
> a
>> bit.
>> All I need to know, in fact, about waste tanks in GMCs.
>> DON'T TOUCH THEM. NOT NOW, NOT NEVER.
>> You guys do as you wish.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Oregon
>>
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Black tank mounting bolts? [message #353642 is a reply to message #353612] Thu, 09 April 2020 16:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Brian Waddell is currently offline  Brian Waddell   United States
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Hi Bruce...Is this a new black tank you have for sale?...I am in southern Manitoba
Brian...77 ele 455

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Rich

I don't have pictures, but I did have the floor exposed there and I believe they were carriage head bolts up through the floor. The tank is mounted
to the body so it moves with the body (toilet and other plumbing connections) and not with the frame.

BTW, I have a new black tank here in S. Ontario if you find you have cracks or leaks.


--
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ON Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.1 ton front end
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that

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Re: [GMCnet] Black tank mounting bolts? [message #353719 is a reply to message #353612] Sat, 11 April 2020 18:07 Go to previous message
Brian Waddell is currently offline  Brian Waddell   United States
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I do not know why I bounce when sending a message direct and not sending it via repl all
Mr. Hislop...Do you have a black tank for sale...shipping and receiving are easier province to provence
Thanks...Brian
77 ele 455
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Rich

I don't have pictures, but I did have the floor exposed there and I believe they were carriage head bolts up through the floor. The tank is mounted
to the body so it moves with the body (toilet and other plumbing connections) and not with the frame.

BTW, I have a new black tank here in S. Ontario if you find you have cracks or leaks.


--
Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.1 ton front end
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that

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