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Winter 2020 Vintage RVing [message #352871] Wed, 18 March 2020 08:14 Go to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Yesterday, the Vintage RVing came in the mail and I opened it last night. (Thank You Kim)

There is a good article about breaking in a rebuilt engine, the text has a lot that I think is good to read.

The diagram of coolant flow is about as wrong as it could be. It shows the coolant flow absolutely backwards. They could almost correct it by turning all the little arrows the other way. They also miss the point that the coolant flow is around the cylinders and then back up the head and the in between is controlled by the holes in the head gasket.

What I do not know is if that picture came with the article. Please read the note inside the front cover.

Whatever, I still value the publication and again, I thank all those involved for the effort to assemble it.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Winter 2020 Vintage RVing [message #352874 is a reply to message #352871] Wed, 18 March 2020 08:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kimberlea Weeks is currently offline  Kimberlea Weeks   United States
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The image utilized in the "GMC Vintage RVing" magazine was supplied with
the original article by Jake Lindeman, Associate Editor of "Autoweek"
magazine. The illustration is an Encyclopaedia Britannica Getty Image.

Kimberlea Weeks | GMC Motorhomes International
Vice President of Administration | Convention Manager
1402 So. Cage Blvd., Unit 273 | Pharr, TX 78577-6288
612.501.4600 | f.866.519.0047 | www.gmcmi.com


On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 8:15 AM Matt Colie via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> Yesterday, the Vintage RVing came in the mail and I opened it last night.
> (Thank You Kim)
>
> There is a good article about breaking in a rebuilt engine, the text has a
> lot that I think is good to read.
>
> The diagram of coolant flow is about as wrong as it could be. It shows
> the coolant flow absolutely backwards. They could almost correct it by
> turning all the little arrows the other way. They also miss the point
> that the coolant flow is around the cylinders and then back up the head and
> the
> in between is controlled by the holes in the head gasket.
>
> What I do not know is if that picture came with the article. Please read
> the note inside the front cover.
>
> Whatever, I still value the publication and again, I thank all those
> involved for the effort to assemble it.
>
> Matt
>
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Winter 2020 Vintage RVing [message #352877 is a reply to message #352874] Wed, 18 March 2020 11:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Leave it to Matt to actually look at the drawings with an eye towards
correctness. I looked at that same drawing, and thought "Well, let me see,
radiator?, check, Hoses ? check, water pump? check. Thermostat? check.
Didn't even think to look to see if the coolant path was correct. Good
catch, Matt.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020, 6:56 AM Kimberlea Weeks via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> The image utilized in the "GMC Vintage RVing" magazine was supplied with
> the original article by Jake Lindeman, Associate Editor of "Autoweek"
> magazine. The illustration is an Encyclopaedia Britannica Getty Image.
>
> Kimberlea Weeks | GMC Motorhomes International
> Vice President of Administration | Convention Manager
> 1402 So. Cage Blvd., Unit 273 | Pharr, TX 78577-6288
> 612.501.4600 | f.866.519.0047 | www.gmcmi.com
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 8:15 AM Matt Colie via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Yesterday, the Vintage RVing came in the mail and I opened it last night.
>> (Thank You Kim)
>>
>> There is a good article about breaking in a rebuilt engine, the text has
> a
>> lot that I think is good to read.
>>
>> The diagram of coolant flow is about as wrong as it could be. It shows
>> the coolant flow absolutely backwards. They could almost correct it by
>> turning all the little arrows the other way. They also miss the point
>> that the coolant flow is around the cylinders and then back up the head
> and
>> the
>> in between is controlled by the holes in the head gasket.
>>
>> What I do not know is if that picture came with the article. Please read
>> the note inside the front cover.
>>
>> Whatever, I still value the publication and again, I thank all those
>> involved for the effort to assemble it.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> --
>> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
>> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Winter 2020 Vintage RVing [message #352883 is a reply to message #352877] Wed, 18 March 2020 13:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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James Hupy wrote on Wed, 18 March 2020 12:21
Leave it to Matt to actually look at the drawings with an eye towards correctness. I looked at that same drawing, and thought "Well, let me see, radiator?, check, Hoses ? check, water pump? check. Thermostat? check.
Didn't even think to look to see if the coolant path was correct. Good catch, Matt.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
Jim,

Thanks, but the only reason I published that note is that we have many people reading this board that don't have much experience. They need to know these things, and if they can't take what we say to the bank, where can they go....

Matt


Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
Re: [GMCnet] Winter 2020 Vintage RVing [message #352896 is a reply to message #352874] Wed, 18 March 2020 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
k2gkk is currently offline  k2gkk   United States
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Note that the picture made no note of a water pump! Britannica probably hasn't changed the diagram since they first put it in the "book" somewhere around 1921 or so.

The thermostat is where it is in the discharge from the engine block to allow the engine to get to operating temperature before opening and initiating the cooling cycle!


Mac in OKC

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The image utilized in the "GMC Vintage RVing" magazine was supplied with
the original article by Jake Lindeman, Associate Editor of "Autoweek"
magazine. The illustration is an Encyclopaedia Britannica Getty Image.

Kimberlea Weeks | GMC Motorhomes International
Vice President of Administration | Convention Manager
1402 So. Cage Blvd., Unit 273 | Pharr, TX 78577-6288
612.501.4600 | f.866.519.0047 | www.gmcmi.com


On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 8:15 AM Matt Colie via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> Yesterday, the Vintage RVing came in the mail and I opened it last night.
> (Thank You Kim)
>
> There is a good article about breaking in a rebuilt engine, the text has a
> lot that I think is good to read.
>
> The diagram of coolant flow is about as wrong as it could be. It shows
> the coolant flow absolutely backwards. They could almost correct it by
> turning all the little arrows the other way. They also miss the point
> that the coolant flow is around the cylinders and then back up the head and
> the
> in between is controlled by the holes in the head gasket.
>
> What I do not know is if that picture came with the article. Please read
> the note inside the front cover.
>
> Whatever, I still value the publication and again, I thank all those
> involved for the effort to assemble it.
>
> Matt
>
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>
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Re: Winter 2020 Vintage RVing [message #352907 is a reply to message #352871] Wed, 18 March 2020 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Melbo is currently offline  Melbo   United States
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Thank You Matt

You always provide good information. But please note we are all in isolation and can't go to the bank.

With the help from this board I have gotten to actually start and drive my GMC.

Melbo


Albuquerque NM Bus Conversion 1978 MCI 1973 GMC

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Re: Winter 2020 Vintage RVing [message #352918 is a reply to message #352871] Thu, 19 March 2020 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jhbridges is currently offline  jhbridges   United States
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You don't have to go to the bank, I'll take your check.

--johnny


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Re: Winter 2020 Vintage RVing [message #352921 is a reply to message #352871] Thu, 19 March 2020 08:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Matt maybe the reverse flow block is an LT1 example, wrong for us. I don't have my copy yet for ref. Also when do we get the parts interchange? Mine is several years old.

John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
Re: Winter 2020 Vintage RVing [message #352938 is a reply to message #352921] Thu, 19 March 2020 14:23 Go to previous message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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JohnL455 wrote on Thu, 19 March 2020 09:53
Matt maybe the reverse flow block is an LT1 example, wrong for us.
I don't have my copy yet for ref. Also when do we get the parts interchange? Mine is several years old.
John,
It isn't quite right for an LT1 either.

If you didn't get the substitution book and the roster, you might not have gotten the fall "Vintage" either.
Send Kim a note. You may have gotten slipped to the digital delivery (I did).

Matt


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SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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