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Greg C. is currently offline  Greg C.   United States
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Can anyone tell me what this is and where it goes? Found it on the floor of a 1976 Palm Beach after rebuilding the steering column.




http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/7284/Clip.jpg


Greg Crawford KM4ZCR Knoxville, TN "Ruby Sue" 1977 Royale Rear Bath 403 Engine American Eagle Wheels Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
Re: Unidentified Part [message #352854 is a reply to message #352852] Tue, 17 March 2020 19:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maybe an adjustment lock for a dimmer switch.

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Re: Unidentified Part [message #352866 is a reply to message #352852] Tue, 17 March 2020 22:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Do the turn signals still cancel automatically?

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: Unidentified Part [message #352867 is a reply to message #352852] Wed, 18 March 2020 03:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Greg C. wrote on Tue, 17 March 2020 20:12
Can anyone tell me what this is and where it goes? Found it on the floor of a 1976 Palm Beach after rebuilding the steering column.




http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/7284/Clip.jpg
Is it part #53 here, columns should be similar:
https://www.elcaminostore.com/diagram/view/index/id/31


Mike K. '75 PB Southeast Michigan
Re: Unidentified Part [message #352868 is a reply to message #352867] Wed, 18 March 2020 06:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I found 3 #53s in the diagram. It is not a bearing, or a transmission detention, and it is not the spring in the tilt ball.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/s-10-steering-wheel-caddy-conversion/p47389-most-all-the-motorhomes-are-wore-here.html
When you update a steering column with dimmer on the turn signal lever you buy a new dimmer switch that bolts to the ignition switch and it comes with a lock tab in place to put it in correct adjustment when installed and must be removed and thrown away after installation in order to work.
http://www.autozone.com/electrical-and-lighting/dimmer-switch/duralast-dimmer-switch-uds485/190427_20995_1985
This is a guess as the bend on tips is not familiar.



GMC Cruse wrote on Wed, 18 March 2020 04:23
Greg C. wrote on Tue, 17 March 2020 20:12
Can anyone tell me what this is and where it goes? Found it on the floor of a 1976 Palm Beach after rebuilding the steering column.




http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/7284/Clip.jpg
Is it part #53 here, columns should be similar:
https://www.elcaminostore.com/diagram/view/index/id/31


C. Boyd
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Re: Unidentified Part [message #352870 is a reply to message #352868] Wed, 18 March 2020 07:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Didn't realize there were that many 53's in diagram. The tilt ball spring is the one I meant. With your experience, if you don't know where it goes Chuck, it probably isn't from column.

Mike K. '75 PB Southeast Michigan
Re: Unidentified Part [message #352872 is a reply to message #352870] Wed, 18 March 2020 08:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you for the kind comment sir. However my memory is not to be relied on. I was trying to help a Black list caller last week and totally left out a major step. I hope it worked out. I tried to call back the next morning but he probably blocked my # and was sticking pins in a voodoo doll with my name on it.



GMC Cruse wrote on Wed, 18 March 2020 08:47
Didn't realize there were that many 53's in diagram. The tilt ball spring is the one I meant. With your experience, if you don't know where it goes Chuck, it probably isn't from column.


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Re: Unidentified Part [message #352873 is a reply to message #352870] Wed, 18 March 2020 08:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Now that I see the exploded view, looks like #53 to me...a spring the keeps the U-joint parts seated in the yokes. Thought it was a spring clip that goes on back of steering wheel to engage canceling cam, but that must have been another brand of vehicle I was remembering.

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: Unidentified Part [message #352878 is a reply to message #352852] Wed, 18 March 2020 11:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's definitely not Part 53. I had that plastic ball apart accidentally and put that clip back in for reassembly. We weren't upgrading the column, just trying to get it usable so we can move the coach for further evaluation. This part exploded on it!


http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/7284/steering_part.jpg

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/7284/steering_part.jpg


Greg Crawford KM4ZCR Knoxville, TN "Ruby Sue" 1977 Royale Rear Bath 403 Engine American Eagle Wheels Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
Re: Unidentified Part [message #352879 is a reply to message #352852] Wed, 18 March 2020 11:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When we restart the engine and move it, I will check to see if the turn signals still (if they ever did) self cancel.

Greg Crawford KM4ZCR Knoxville, TN "Ruby Sue" 1977 Royale Rear Bath 403 Engine American Eagle Wheels Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
Re: Unidentified Part [message #352933 is a reply to message #352879] Thu, 19 March 2020 13:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Greg,
How big is that clip? Its not one of clips to hold down the lid on the master cylinder is it?

Russell


1978 Eleganza II, Dunedin, Florida
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Greg,
Could it be the lower bearing clip?

It is part number 32 on the diagram of the standard steering column.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/steering-column/p67109-standard-steering-column-parts.html

Or part number 53 on the diagram of the tilt steering column.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/steering-column/p67112-tilt-steering-column-parts.html

Good luck.
Russell


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Re: Unidentified Part [message #352935 is a reply to message #352852] Thu, 19 March 2020 13:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Greg,
I have one more guess.

Could it be the shaft retaining ring for the tilt column? See part number 43 in this diagram.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/steering-column/p67112-tilt-steering-column-parts.html

Please let us know what you discover.

Russell


1978 Eleganza II, Dunedin, Florida
Re: Unidentified Part [message #352949 is a reply to message #352852] Thu, 19 March 2020 19:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for all the replies!

It's not 32.

It's about 3/4" or so wide.

Which little circle has 43 in it?

The diagram is a little fuzzy, and I can't make out the two numbers next to 45 on the extreme left parts grouping.


Greg Crawford KM4ZCR Knoxville, TN "Ruby Sue" 1977 Royale Rear Bath 403 Engine American Eagle Wheels Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
Re: Unidentified Part [message #352950 is a reply to message #352852] Thu, 19 March 2020 19:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oops!

Looking at the wrong diagram.


YES, YES, it might be 43!

My friend will be ecstatic that we have to disassemble the steering column again....


Thank you!


Greg Crawford KM4ZCR Knoxville, TN "Ruby Sue" 1977 Royale Rear Bath 403 Engine American Eagle Wheels Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
Re: Unidentified Part [message #352951 is a reply to message #352950] Thu, 19 March 2020 20:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Greg C. wrote on Thu, 19 March 2020 20:42
Oops!

Looking at the wrong diagram.


YES, YES, it might be 43!

My friend will be ecstatic that we have to disassemble the steering column again....


Thank you!
Don't get too excited. Parts book shows that as #7804907 and it is shaped different.

https://secureservercdn.net/198.71.233.195/b57.ff1.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/100_9185-1024x768.jpg


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Re: Unidentified Part [message #352960 is a reply to message #352852] Fri, 20 March 2020 14:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, it is shaped differently.

It's possible this part did not come out of the steering column at all. We just found it on the carpet when we were cleaning up the tools.

I don't think it goes there, but the PRND2L indicator is not working either. It seems like there should be a guide for the indicator cable that is missing.


Greg Crawford KM4ZCR Knoxville, TN "Ruby Sue" 1977 Royale Rear Bath 403 Engine American Eagle Wheels Early Version Alex Sirum Quad bags
Re: Unidentified Part [message #352964 is a reply to message #352960] Fri, 20 March 2020 18:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sir, there is a post on the back of the instrument cluster that the cable goes over. Just lays across it.





Greg C. wrote on Fri, 20 March 2020 15:57
Yes, it is shaped differently.

It's possible this part did not come out of the steering column at all. We just found it on the carpet when we were cleaning up the tools.

I don't think it goes there, but the PRND2L indicator is not working either. It seems like there should be a guide for the indicator cable that is missing.


C. Boyd
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East Tennessee
Re: [GMCnet] Unidentified Part [message #352965 is a reply to message #352964] Fri, 20 March 2020 19:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In case you have not already learned this, repairing a '70 something GM
tilt steering column in not a job for the faint of heart. They a a
terrible collection of plastic, pot metal and hundreds of pieces. Having a
totally cleaned work bench with the entire upper column removed from the
vehicle laid out on clean toweling with excellent lighting is a huge help.
Hunched up over the fragile plastic dash is almost assured method of
losing pieces. I hate working on them. There are several GMCers out there
that have a major amount of experience with them. My learning curve stopped
at the turn signal cancellation cam. Below that, I don't like to mess with
them.
My advice? Get an expert to work on yours and pay attention to what
they do. This is not the last time that you are going to have to tweedle
around in there.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 4:52 PM Charles Boyd via Gmclist <
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> Sir, there is a post on the back of the instrument cluster that the cable
> goes over. Just lays across it.
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> Greg C. wrote on Fri, 20 March 2020 15:57
>> Yes, it is shaped differently.
>>
>> It's possible this part did not come out of the steering column at all.
> We just found it on the carpet when we were cleaning up the tools.
>>
>> I don't think it goes there, but the PRND2L indicator is not working
> either. It seems like there should be a guide for the indicator cable that
> is
>> missing.
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> C. Boyd
> 76 Crestmont
> East Tennessee
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Re: Unidentified Part [message #352966 is a reply to message #352964] Fri, 20 March 2020 19:44 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Any chance the wire clip came off a tool package?

C. Boyd
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