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finale to governer removal previously posted [message #352761] |
Sat, 14 March 2020 18:23 |
skip2
Messages: 544 Registered: September 2011 Location: Winter Haven,FL (center o...
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Evening all,
Finally got around to removing and checking out the governer. To all that thought I was a little "off" thinking I had one with a removable cover you were right, I was wrong and request you consider my CRS is playing tricks on me. I thought for sure when I replaced the tranny a few years ago it had that type of governer. I did find that it had like a gunky stuff coming from the weights and the plunger/piston was a little sticky, weep hole clear on the plunger. Yes, I went ahead and changed the gear. The little that I got to check it it seemed to shift fine, best I can tell by looking at tach, when it shifts good it is usually so smooth you can't tell without the towd. Now after a short test run I found that the left front caliper hanging up, always trust your wife's sense of smell. They are already 80MM so I'll replace both, I bought the hoses a while back, guess it's a good time to change them too, I've read there is a possibility that the hose has an internal collapse and not letting the fluid release, I was able to pry the puck back. In the greater scheme of things pads and calipers are not that expensive. Also a good time to use the grease fittings and get some fresh grease in the hubs, 90% of the work will be already done. Just thought I would bring all you fellow GMCers that gave me suggestions and comments the update I promised.
Skip Hartline
74 Canyon Lands, FiTech,
3.7 FD LSD, Manny Tranny,
Springfield Distributor,
2001 Chevy Tracker Ragtop Towd
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Re: finale to governer removal previously posted [message #352766 is a reply to message #352761] |
Sat, 14 March 2020 20:40 |
Larry
Messages: 2875 Registered: January 2004 Location: Menomonie, WI
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skip2 wrote on Sat, 14 March 2020 18:23Evening all,
Finally got around to removing and checking out the governer. To all that thought I was a little "off" thinking I had one with a removable cover you were right, I was wrong and request you consider my CRS is playing tricks on me. I thought for sure when I replaced the tranny a few years ago it had that type of governer. I did find that it had like a gunky stuff coming from the weights and the plunger/piston was a little sticky, weep hole clear on the plunger. Yes, I went ahead and changed the gear. The little that I got to check it it seemed to shift fine, best I can tell by looking at tach, when it shifts good it is usually so smooth you can't tell without the towd. Now after a short test run I found that the left front caliper hanging up, always trust your wife's sense of smell. They are already 80MM so I'll replace both, I bought the hoses a while back, guess it's a good time to change them too, I've read there is a possibility that the hose has an internal collapse and not letting the fluid release, I was able to pry the puck back. In the greater scheme of things pads and calipers are not that expensive. Also a good time to use the grease fittings and get some fresh grease in the hubs, 90% of the work will be already done. Just thought I would bring all you fellow GMCers that gave me suggestions and comments the update I promised.
Skip Hartline
If your hubs have grease fittings, that means it is not a stock set-up and the fittings have been added, either by someone who drilled the hubs and drilled/ground the bearing spacer, or bought and installed new hubs that have been modified by Dave L or hubs from Jimmy K. In any case, do not apply grease to the fittings without first doing the following. Failure to do this means the hydraulic pressure applied by the grease gun will push the inner seal out of its setting and allow dirt and water to infiltrate contaminating the bearings and shortening their life.
You must first remove any covering over the Axle shaft nut. That may mean removing the wheels to get the center cap off. Put the wheel back on and lower the coach. place a socket on the axle nut and remove most of the way from the axle allowing it to remain on the axle a few threads. Using a plastic hammer, gently persuade the axle on the end of the nut so that the axle slides through the hub until the seal surface on the INSIDE is clear of the inner seal. Now you can apply grease to the fitting. Pump grease through until it pushes old grease out and you can see new grease come through. Now screw the axle nut back in and apply the specified amount of torque to that nut until the cotter pin can be inserted. Again, doing it this way will keep the hydraulic pressure of the grease from moving the grease seal from its intended position. HTH
Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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Re: finale to governer removal previously posted [message #352769 is a reply to message #352766] |
Sat, 14 March 2020 21:12 |
skip2
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Larry,
I drilled them a few years ago with the drill fixture and used the Set23's with the special grooved spacer from Jim K. I already had the special Chuck Aulgar tool before I put in the fittings so I put it on the studs and used the axle nut to push the shaft back from the seal, works quite neat uses the nut to push the shaft back toward center as you thread it outward, and give room for the old grease to escape, I've done this a few times already, I know it's not nessesary as much I do it, but it just makes me feel better about the front bearings. to quote forest gump "one less thing to worry about". But I most certainly appreciate your concern.
Skip Hartline
74 Canyon Lands, FiTech,
3.7 FD LSD, Manny Tranny,
Springfield Distributor,
2001 Chevy Tracker Ragtop Towd
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Re: finale to governer removal previously posted [message #352773 is a reply to message #352769] |
Sat, 14 March 2020 21:51 |
Larry
Messages: 2875 Registered: January 2004 Location: Menomonie, WI
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skip2 wrote on Sat, 14 March 2020 21:12Larry,
I drilled them a few years ago with the drill fixture and used the Set23's with the special grooved spacer from Jim K. I already had the special Chuck Aulgar tool before I put in the fittings so I put it on the studs and used the axle nut to push the shaft back from the seal, works quite neat uses the nut to push the shaft back toward center as you thread it outward, and give room for the old grease to escape, I've done this a few times already, I know it's not nessesary as much I do it, but it just makes me feel better about the front bearings. to quote forest gump "one less thing to worry about". But I most certainly appreciate your concern.
Skip Hartline
Thanks for your words Skip. Like you I do the hubs more than advised. We put on 12-15K miles a year. So I do it before every extended trip. Meaning every fall before I park it. Then take it out and leave for the south between Christmas and New year's. Don't even clean up the excess grease. Leave it there as my anti-rust agent. JWID
Larry
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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