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Tom Lins is currently offline  Tom Lins   United States
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I have been fixing issues on our GMC as time and funds allow and I finally got to fixing the striker plate that has a wobbly pin.
It jumped up on the list due to acquiring a Birch screen door. I figured I needed to straighten out any issues with the door before trying to install the Birch door.
After installing the replacement striker plate the door seemed to be even more difficult to close completely.
My son noticed the bottom hinge seemed to wobble quite a bit. After some investigation I discovered that the the entire section the hinge bolts to has failed.
I seems that the only reason the hinge did not pull out of the door is because of the bolts would not pull thru nthe slot.
I had to use a piece of 1/8 " steel to reinforce the door to get the door to operate and close properly.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/birch-screen-door-install/p67063-door-reinforcment.html


Tom Lins
St Augustine, FL
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Re: Door repair [message #352377 is a reply to message #352375] Tue, 25 February 2020 05:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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Tom Lins wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 21:29
I have been fixing issues on our GMC as time and funds allow and I finally got to fixing the striker plate that has a wobbly pin.
It jumped up on the list due to acquiring a Birch screen door. I figured I needed to straighten out any issues with the door before trying to install the Birch door.
After installing the replacement striker plate the door seemed to be even more difficult to close completely.
My son noticed the bottom hinge seemed to wobble quite a bit. After some investigation I discovered that the the entire section the hinge bolts to has failed.
I seems that the only reason the hinge did not pull out of the door is because of the bolts would not pull thru nthe slot.
I had to use a piece of 1/8 " steel to reinforce the door to get the door to operate and close properly.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/birch-screen-door-install/p67063-door-reinforcment.html
I had the exact same issue with my entrance door. Fixed it the same way. JFWIW, that area gets quite wet running down the road in the rain. Give the plate a good coat of paint and replace all of the bolts with Stainless Steel. Do it now or do it later when they start to rust.


Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
Re: Door repair [message #352378 is a reply to message #352377] Tue, 25 February 2020 06:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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Larry wrote on Tue, 25 February 2020 05:55
Tom Lins wrote on Mon, 24 February 2020 21:29
I have been fixing issues on our GMC as time and funds allow and I finally got to fixing the striker plate that has a wobbly pin.
It jumped up on the list due to acquiring a Birch screen door. I figured I needed to straighten out any issues with the door before trying to install the Birch door.
After installing the replacement striker plate the door seemed to be even more difficult to close completely.
My son noticed the bottom hinge seemed to wobble quite a bit. After some investigation I discovered that the the entire section the hinge bolts to has failed.
I seems that the only reason the hinge did not pull out of the door is because of the bolts would not pull thru nthe slot.
I had to use a piece of 1/8 " steel to reinforce the door to get the door to operate and close properly.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/birch-screen-door-install/p67063-door-reinforcment.html
I had the exact same issue with my entrance door. Fixed it the same way. JFWIW, that area gets quite wet running down the road in the rain. Give the plate a good coat of paint and replace all of the bolts with Stainless Steel. Do it now or do it later when they start to rust.
OH...also, the two larger bolts in the center of your plate, get a couple of SS Buttton bolts for that location. They have a thinner head and are less likely to interfere with the brackets on your Birch door. JWID


Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
Re: Door repair [message #352390 is a reply to message #352377] Tue, 25 February 2020 19:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Lins is currently offline  Tom Lins   United States
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The bolts are already stainless. I came to the conclusion years ago to use nothing but stainless steel fasteners unless the application called for high strength fasteners.

Tom Lins
St Augustine, FL
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Re: Door repair [message #352391 is a reply to message #352378] Tue, 25 February 2020 19:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Lins is currently offline  Tom Lins   United States
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They are on order since I had to grind down the heads a bit to get the door to close without interference.


Tom Lins
St Augustine, FL
77 GM Rear Twin, Dry Bath, 455, Aluminum Radiator Quad-Bag Suspension Solar Panel
Manuals on DVD
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Re: [GMCnet] Door repair [message #352398 is a reply to message #352391] Tue, 25 February 2020 21:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you are using stainless bolts and nut make sure they are different
grades otherwise the bolt and nut will gaul or seize.

Sully
Bellevue wa.

On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 5:35 PM Tom Lins via Gmclist <
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> They are on order since I had to grind down the heads a bit to get the
> door to close without interference.
>
> --
> Tom Lins
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Re: [GMCnet] Door repair [message #352402 is a reply to message #352398] Tue, 25 February 2020 22:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powwerjon is currently offline  powwerjon   United States
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Gaul is the correct definition. I have even used a never-seize type
compound on the threads. If you over tighten SS hardware it can be a pain
to take apart. There are many grades of SS screws and bolts such as 316SS,
High-strength 316SS, 18-8 SS, 17-4 PH SS, Super-Corrosion-Resistant 316 SS
and 450 SS. McMaster-Carr gives a good definition of each and possible
applications.

J.R. Wright
GMC Great Laker
GMCGL Tech Editor
GMC Eastern States
GMCMHI
TZE Zone Restorations
78 Buskirk Custom 29.5' Stretch
75 Avion (Under going Frame up Restoration)



On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:32 PM Todd Sullivan via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> If you are using stainless bolts and nut make sure they are different
> grades otherwise the bolt and nut will gaul or seize.
>
> Sully
> Bellevue wa.
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 5:35 PM Tom Lins via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> They are on order since I had to grind down the heads a bit to get the
>> door to close without interference.
>>
>> --
>> Tom Lins
>> St Augustine, FL
>> 77 GM Rear Twin, Dry Bath, 455, Aluminum Radiator Quad-Bag Suspension
>> Solar Panel
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>> http://www.bdub.net/tomlins/
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Re: [GMCnet] Door repair [message #352423 is a reply to message #352402] Wed, 26 February 2020 13:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jessfarr is currently offline  jessfarr   United States
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Now, do they recommend which nut works best with which screw or best to use in plain steel nut without galling ?

jofarr
soddy daisy tn, 26' canyonlands


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Gaul is the correct definition. I have even used a never-seize type
compound on the threads. If you over tighten SS hardware it can be a pain
to take apart. There are many grades of SS screws and bolts such as 316SS,
High-strength 316SS, 18-8 SS, 17-4 PH SS, Super-Corrosion-Resistant 316 SS
and 450 SS. McMaster-Carr gives a good definition of each and possible
applications.

J.R. Wright
GMC Great Laker
GMCGL Tech Editor
GMC Eastern States
GMCMHI
TZE Zone Restorations
78 Buskirk Custom 29.5' Stretch
75 Avion (Under going Frame up Restoration)



On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:32 PM Todd Sullivan via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> If you are using stainless bolts and nut make sure they are different
> grades otherwise the bolt and nut will gaul or seize.
>
> Sully
> Bellevue wa.
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 5:35 PM Tom Lins via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> They are on order since I had to grind down the heads a bit to get the
>> door to close without interference.
>>
>> --
>> Tom Lins
>> St Augustine, FL
>> 77 GM Rear Twin, Dry Bath, 455, Aluminum Radiator Quad-Bag Suspension
>> Solar Panel
>> Manuals on DVD
>> GMC Dealer Training Tapes
>> http://www.bdub.net/tomlins/
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Door repair [message #352424 is a reply to message #352398] Wed, 26 February 2020 13:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What Sully said about using different grades! if your using a 304 or 316
SS steel bolt and nut assembly which is a softer alloy as compared to 18-8
and 17-4 grades that are somewhat harder. Also most people have a
difficult time on how tight the assembly should be. Us a torque chart and
torque wrench. The adage of tight is good, tighter is better is wrong. It
is either gauled or snapped of when you get it that tight. You can feel it
when it gauls. the fastener slips slightly and then does not move in any
direction and you typical snap it off.

J.R. Wright
GMC Great Laker
GMCGL Tech Editor
GMC Eastern States
GMCMHI
TZE Zone Restorations
78 Buskirk Custom 29.5' Stretch
75 Avion (Under going Frame up Restoration)



On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:45 PM Jesse Farr via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> Now, do they recommend which nut works best with which screw or best to
> use in plain steel nut without galling ?
>
> jofarr
> soddy daisy tn, 26' canyonlands
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Wright via Gmclist
> Reply-To:
> To: GMC Net
> Cc: John Wright
> Sent: 2/25/2020 11:27:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Door repair
>
> ________________________________________________________________________________
>
> Gaul is the correct definition. I have even used a never-seize type
> compound on the threads. If you over tighten SS hardware it can be a pain
> to take apart. There are many grades of SS screws and bolts such as 316SS,
> High-strength 316SS, 18-8 SS, 17-4 PH SS, Super-Corrosion-Resistant 316 SS
> and 450 SS. McMaster-Carr gives a good definition of each and possible
> applications.
>
> J.R. Wright
> GMC Great Laker
> GMCGL Tech Editor
> GMC Eastern States
> GMCMHI
> TZE Zone Restorations
> 78 Buskirk Custom 29.5' Stretch
> 75 Avion (Under going Frame up Restoration)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:32 PM Todd Sullivan via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> If you are using stainless bolts and nut make sure they are different
>> grades otherwise the bolt and nut will gaul or seize.
>>
>> Sully
>> Bellevue wa.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 5:35 PM Tom Lins via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> They are on order since I had to grind down the heads a bit to get the
>>> door to close without interference.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tom Lins
>>> St Augustine, FL
>>> 77 GM Rear Twin, Dry Bath, 455, Aluminum Radiator Quad-Bag Suspension
>>> Solar Panel
>>> Manuals on DVD
>>> GMC Dealer Training Tapes
>>> http://www.bdub.net/tomlins/
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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Re: [GMCnet] Door repair [message #352425 is a reply to message #352424] Wed, 26 February 2020 14:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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John,

I guess you don't agree with my grandaddy's rule: "If 1 nail's enough, 2's
better, and 3 should be 'just about right'". :-)

Ken H.

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:57 PM John Wright via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> What Sully said about using different grades! if your using a 304 or 316
> SS steel bolt and nut assembly which is a softer alloy as compared to 18-8
> and 17-4 grades that are somewhat harder. Also most people have a
> difficult time on how tight the assembly should be. Us a torque chart and
> torque wrench. The adage of tight is good, tighter is better is wrong. It
> is either gauled or snapped of when you get it that tight. You can feel it
> when it gauls. the fastener slips slightly and then does not move in any
> direction and you typical snap it off.
>
> J.R. Wright
> GMC Great Laker
> GMCGL Tech Editor
> GMC Eastern States
> GMCMHI
> TZE Zone Restorations
> 78 Buskirk Custom 29.5' Stretch
> 75 Avion (Under going Frame up Restoration)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:45 PM Jesse Farr via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Now, do they recommend which nut works best with which screw or best to
>> use in plain steel nut without galling ?
>>
>> jofarr
>> soddy daisy tn, 26' canyonlands
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Wright via Gmclist
>> Reply-To:
>> To: GMC Net
>> Cc: John Wright
>> Sent: 2/25/2020 11:27:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Door repair
>>
>>
> ________________________________________________________________________________
>>
>> Gaul is the correct definition. I have even used a never-seize type
>> compound on the threads. If you over tighten SS hardware it can be a
> pain
>> to take apart. There are many grades of SS screws and bolts such as
> 316SS,
>> High-strength 316SS, 18-8 SS, 17-4 PH SS, Super-Corrosion-Resistant 316
> SS
>> and 450 SS. McMaster-Carr gives a good definition of each and possible
>> applications.
>>
>> J.R. Wright
>> GMC Great Laker
>> GMCGL Tech Editor
>> GMC Eastern States
>> GMCMHI
>> TZE Zone Restorations
>> 78 Buskirk Custom 29.5' Stretch
>> 75 Avion (Under going Frame up Restoration)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:32 PM Todd Sullivan via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> If you are using stainless bolts and nut make sure they are different
>>> grades otherwise the bolt and nut will gaul or seize.
>>>
>>> Sully
>>> Bellevue wa.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 5:35 PM Tom Lins via Gmclist >> gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> They are on order since I had to grind down the heads a bit to get
> the
>>>> door to close without interference.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tom Lins
>>>> St Augustine, FL
>>>> 77 GM Rear Twin, Dry Bath, 455, Aluminum Radiator Quad-Bag
> Suspension
>>>> Solar Panel
>>>> Manuals on DVD
>>>> GMC Dealer Training Tapes
>>>> http://www.bdub.net/tomlins/
>>>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Door repair [message #352426 is a reply to message #352423] Wed, 26 February 2020 15:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sgltrac is currently offline  sgltrac   United States
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Jesse,

The hardware suppliers and manufacturers are aware of this so typically the
nuts and bolts are made from different alloys but it’s a question that
should be asked when sourcing to ensure you don’t end up with a set from
same grade of stainless.
The way I discovered this issue was in the removal of stainless truck stake
pocket retractable hooks. The screws supplied with the hooks were the same
alloy and upon removal of the hooks I ended up snapping the screws off in
the hooks. This surprised me as there was no corrosion present and the
screws were not cross threaded. I few questions later at Tacoma Screw I had
the answer.

Sully
Bellevue wa

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:45 AM Jesse Farr via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> Now, do they recommend which nut works best with which screw or best to
> use in plain steel nut without galling ?
>
> jofarr
> soddy daisy tn, 26' canyonlands
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Wright via Gmclist
> Reply-To:
> To: GMC Net
> Cc: John Wright
> Sent: 2/25/2020 11:27:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Door repair
>
> ________________________________________________________________________________
>
> Gaul is the correct definition. I have even used a never-seize type
> compound on the threads. If you over tighten SS hardware it can be a pain
> to take apart. There are many grades of SS screws and bolts such as 316SS,
> High-strength 316SS, 18-8 SS, 17-4 PH SS, Super-Corrosion-Resistant 316 SS
> and 450 SS. McMaster-Carr gives a good definition of each and possible
> applications.
>
> J.R. Wright
> GMC Great Laker
> GMCGL Tech Editor
> GMC Eastern States
> GMCMHI
> TZE Zone Restorations
> 78 Buskirk Custom 29.5' Stretch
> 75 Avion (Under going Frame up Restoration)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:32 PM Todd Sullivan via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> If you are using stainless bolts and nut make sure they are different
>> grades otherwise the bolt and nut will gaul or seize.
>>
>> Sully
>> Bellevue wa.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 5:35 PM Tom Lins via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> They are on order since I had to grind down the heads a bit to get the
>>> door to close without interference.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tom Lins
>>> St Augustine, FL
>>> 77 GM Rear Twin, Dry Bath, 455, Aluminum Radiator Quad-Bag Suspension
>>> Solar Panel
>>> Manuals on DVD
>>> GMC Dealer Training Tapes
>>> http://www.bdub.net/tomlins/
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
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Re: [GMCnet] Door repair [message #352430 is a reply to message #352426] Wed, 26 February 2020 16:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powwerjon is currently offline  powwerjon   United States
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Ken,
Remember the big hammer and 36" pipe wrench, i can get anything apart!!

J.R.

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:34 PM Todd Sullivan via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> Jesse,
>
> The hardware suppliers and manufacturers are aware of this so typically the
> nuts and bolts are made from different alloys but it’s a question that
> should be asked when sourcing to ensure you don’t end up with a set from
> same grade of stainless.
> The way I discovered this issue was in the removal of stainless truck stake
> pocket retractable hooks. The screws supplied with the hooks were the same
> alloy and upon removal of the hooks I ended up snapping the screws off in
> the hooks. This surprised me as there was no corrosion present and the
> screws were not cross threaded. I few questions later at Tacoma Screw I had
> the answer.
>
> Sully
> Bellevue wa
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:45 AM Jesse Farr via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Now, do they recommend which nut works best with which screw or best to
>> use in plain steel nut without galling ?
>>
>> jofarr
>> soddy daisy tn, 26' canyonlands
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Wright via Gmclist
>> Reply-To:
>> To: GMC Net
>> Cc: John Wright
>> Sent: 2/25/2020 11:27:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Door repair
>>
>>
> ________________________________________________________________________________
>>
>> Gaul is the correct definition. I have even used a never-seize type
>> compound on the threads. If you over tighten SS hardware it can be a
> pain
>> to take apart. There are many grades of SS screws and bolts such as
> 316SS,
>> High-strength 316SS, 18-8 SS, 17-4 PH SS, Super-Corrosion-Resistant 316
> SS
>> and 450 SS. McMaster-Carr gives a good definition of each and possible
>> applications.
>>
>> J.R. Wright
>> GMC Great Laker
>> GMCGL Tech Editor
>> GMC Eastern States
>> GMCMHI
>> TZE Zone Restorations
>> 78 Buskirk Custom 29.5' Stretch
>> 75 Avion (Under going Frame up Restoration)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:32 PM Todd Sullivan via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> If you are using stainless bolts and nut make sure they are different
>>> grades otherwise the bolt and nut will gaul or seize.
>>>
>>> Sully
>>> Bellevue wa.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 5:35 PM Tom Lins via Gmclist >> gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> They are on order since I had to grind down the heads a bit to get
> the
>>>> door to close without interference.
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> St Augustine, FL
>>>> 77 GM Rear Twin, Dry Bath, 455, Aluminum Radiator Quad-Bag
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Re: [GMCnet] Door repair [message #352435 is a reply to message #352430] Wed, 26 February 2020 18:48 Go to previous message
jessfarr is currently offline  jessfarr   United States
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Hard to get that 36" pipe wrench inside the nut where broken off though

jofarr, soddy daisy tn, 26' canyonland


----- Original Message -----
From: John Wright via Gmclist
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To: GMC Net
Cc: John Wright
Sent: 2/26/2020 5:32:28 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Door repair
________________________________________________________________________________

Ken,
Remember the big hammer and 36" pipe wrench, i can get anything apart!!

J.R.

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 2:34 PM Todd Sullivan via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> Jesse,
>
> The hardware suppliers and manufacturers are aware of this so typically the
> nuts and bolts are made from different alloys but it’s a question that
> should be asked when sourcing to ensure you don’t end up with a set from
> same grade of stainless.
> The way I discovered this issue was in the removal of stainless truck stake
> pocket retractable hooks. The screws supplied with the hooks were the same
> alloy and upon removal of the hooks I ended up snapping the screws off in
> the hooks. This surprised me as there was no corrosion present and the
> screws were not cross threaded. I few questions later at Tacoma Screw I had
> the answer.
>
> Sully
> Bellevue wa
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:45 AM Jesse Farr via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Now, do they recommend which nut works best with which screw or best to
>> use in plain steel nut without galling ?
>>
>> jofarr
>> soddy daisy tn, 26' canyonlands
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John Wright via Gmclist
>> Reply-To:
>> To: GMC Net
>> Cc: John Wright
>> Sent: 2/25/2020 11:27:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Door repair
>>
>>
> ________________________________________________________________________________
>>
>> Gaul is the correct definition. I have even used a never-seize type
>> compound on the threads. If you over tighten SS hardware it can be a
> pain
>> to take apart. There are many grades of SS screws and bolts such as
> 316SS,
>> High-strength 316SS, 18-8 SS, 17-4 PH SS, Super-Corrosion-Resistant 316
> SS
>> and 450 SS. McMaster-Carr gives a good definition of each and possible
>> applications.
>>
>> J.R. Wright
>> GMC Great Laker
>> GMCGL Tech Editor
>> GMC Eastern States
>> GMCMHI
>> TZE Zone Restorations
>> 78 Buskirk Custom 29.5' Stretch
>> 75 Avion (Under going Frame up Restoration)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:32 PM Todd Sullivan via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> If you are using stainless bolts and nut make sure they are different
>>> grades otherwise the bolt and nut will gaul or seize.
>>>
>>> Sully
>>> Bellevue wa.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 5:35 PM Tom Lins via Gmclist >> gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> They are on order since I had to grind down the heads a bit to get
> the
>>>> door to close without interference.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tom Lins
>>>> St Augustine, FL
>>>> 77 GM Rear Twin, Dry Bath, 455, Aluminum Radiator Quad-Bag
> Suspension
>>>> Solar Panel
>>>> Manuals on DVD
>>>> GMC Dealer Training Tapes
>>>> http://www.bdub.net/tomlins/
>>>>
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jesse farr, soddy tn USA '74 Canyonlands 260
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