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Pulling trailer [message #350983] Fri, 27 December 2019 09:37 Go to next message
Rich Kinas is currently offline  Rich Kinas   United States
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Happy holidays all....

A question for you all is has anybody ever built a pull behind trailer for our GMC's that used the same steel wheels as on the coach? I have a couple of mopeds that I want to trailer behind the GMC and I figured that I may as well build something that looks really good to trailer them in. Something that would provide some additional storage as well would be really welcomed. I was wondering about using a drop axle, which drop axle, what spindles would I need, etc. Just thought I would ask before spending too much research time on the topic if this is something that has been well thought out in the past. Oh and I love the original steel wheels for their look so this is an integral part of the build...Thanks all...

Rich


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Re: Pulling trailer [message #350985 is a reply to message #350983] Fri, 27 December 2019 09:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rich, several people have made trailers out of 'parts coach' GMCs. Shouldn't be terribly hard to do, if you are comfortable doing body work and can find a 'junker' close by.

--johny


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Re: [GMCnet] Pulling trailer [message #350988 is a reply to message #350985] Fri, 27 December 2019 11:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What is important in designing the trailer is considering the Dynamic of
the angle of the at the hitch is going to be.
A short trailer will be more critical as a 3" drop or rise will cause a
change in acceleration of the trailer and will jerk and one will feel it
going down the road.
Yes, there are hitch adapters that are there to overcome that, but I feel
it is easier to not have to kick around an adapter that is not readily
available.
We have towed ALL type and been to seminars at various trailer supply mfg.
as we sell them and experience.
Even towing a car, the same applies, if the tow bar is at an angle, you'll
feel that jerk more.


On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 7:50 AM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> Rich, several people have made trailers out of 'parts coach' GMCs.
> Shouldn't be terribly hard to do, if you are comfortable doing body work
> and can
> find a 'junker' close by.
>
> --johny
> --
> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
> Braselton, Ga.
> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
> in hell
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Pulling trailer [message #350990 is a reply to message #350988] Fri, 27 December 2019 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rich Kinas is currently offline  Rich Kinas   United States
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Jim, are you referring to the angle of the tow bar relative to the
horizontal?

Rich

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 12:35 PM Jim Kanomata via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> What is important in designing the trailer is considering the Dynamic of
> the angle of the at the hitch is going to be.
> A short trailer will be more critical as a 3" drop or rise will cause a
> change in acceleration of the trailer and will jerk and one will feel it
> going down the road.
> Yes, there are hitch adapters that are there to overcome that, but I feel
> it is easier to not have to kick around an adapter that is not readily
> available.
> We have towed ALL type and been to seminars at various trailer supply mfg.
> as we sell them and experience.
> Even towing a car, the same applies, if the tow bar is at an angle, you'll
> feel that jerk more.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 7:50 AM Johnny Bridges via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Rich, several people have made trailers out of 'parts coach' GMCs.
>> Shouldn't be terribly hard to do, if you are comfortable doing body work
>> and can
>> find a 'junker' close by.
>>
>> --johny
>> --
>> Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
>> Braselton, Ga.
>> I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me
>> in hell
>>
>>
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>
>
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] Pulling trailer [message #351008 is a reply to message #350990] Sat, 28 December 2019 10:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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I sometimes tow a homemade car trailer with a Jeep on it:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/trips/p51795-2013-sand-dune-trip.html

The GMC tows it without issue.

I'm sure you can buy an 8 on 6-1/2 pattern axle with the right width for the stock drop center wheels as a foundation for your trailer build. Here is an example of a concept GMC trailer:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gmc-paint-schemes/p41750-jay-fox-27s-trailer.html

There are several more on the GMC Photo Site. Just do a search for "trailer"


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Re: [GMCnet] Pulling trailer [message #351014 is a reply to message #351008] Sat, 28 December 2019 12:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl,
You did it right by having a long and parallel to the ball.
What did you do for brakes?

On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 8:26 AM Carl Stouffer via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> I sometimes tow a homemade car trailer with a Jeep on it:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/trips/p51795-2013-sand-dune-trip.html
>
> The GMC tows it without issue.
>
> I'm sure you can buy an 8 on 6-1/2 pattern axle with the right width for
> the stock drop center wheels as a foundation for your trailer build. Here
> is
> an example of a concept GMC trailer:
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gmc-paint-schemes/p41750-jay-fox-27s-trailer.html
>
> There are several more on the GMC Photo Site. Just do a search for
> "trailer"
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
> Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive,
> Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American
> Eagles,
> Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Pulling trailer [message #351020 is a reply to message #351014] Sat, 28 December 2019 19:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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jimk wrote on Sat, 28 December 2019 11:24
Carl,
You did it right by having a long and parallel to the ball.
What did you do for brakes?

On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 8:26 AM Carl Stouffer via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> I sometimes tow a homemade car trailer with a Jeep on it:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/trips/p51795-2013-sand-dune-trip.html
>
> The GMC tows it without issue.
>
> I'm sure you can buy an 8 on 6-1/2 pattern axle with the right width for
> the stock drop center wheels as a foundation for your trailer build. Here
> is
> an example of a concept GMC trailer:
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/gmc-paint-schemes/p41750-jay-fox-27s-trailer.html
>
> There are several more on the GMC Photo Site. Just do a search for
> "trailer"
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
> Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive,
> Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American
> Eagles,
> Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
>
> _______________________________________________
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Jim, The trailer I built the car trailer out of (an old Shult travel trailer) had electric brakes on it. I just used them and added a Tekonsha electric r\brake controller to whatever vehicle I used to tow it, including the GMC.

I built that trailer when I was about 18 in my dad's back yard.


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Re: [GMCnet] Pulling trailer [message #351031 is a reply to message #351020] Sun, 29 December 2019 07:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl S. wrote on Sat, 28 December 2019 20:36
Jim, The trailer I built the car trailer out of (an old Shult travel trailer) had electric brakes on it. I just used them and added a Tekonsha electric r\brake controller to whatever vehicle I used to tow it, including the GMC.

I built that trailer when I was about 18 in my dad's back yard.
Carl,

Can you put "Historic" plates on a trailer?? Wink

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Pulling trailer [message #351057 is a reply to message #351031] Sun, 29 December 2019 20:28 Go to previous message
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Matt Colie wrote on Sun, 29 December 2019 06:38
Carl S. wrote on Sat, 28 December 2019 20:36
Jim, The trailer I built the car trailer out of (an old Shult travel trailer) had electric brakes on it. I just used them and added a Tekonsha electric r\brake controller to whatever vehicle I used to tow it, including the GMC.

I built that trailer when I was about 18 in my dad's back yard.
Carl,

[b]Can you put "Historic" plates on a trailer?? Wink[/b]

Matt

Matt,

I should be able to, either way. The original trailer I used the frame and axles from was a 1947, and I built it in 1974. It should qualify. Wink


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