| PD9140A Has Gone Bad [message #350647] |
Thu, 12 December 2019 18:08  |
duallycc
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Hey All;
It looks like my IntelliPower PD9140A has given up it's magic smoke. Is this still the AC to DC Converter to use or is there a better one?
Gary Berry in Prosser, WA
1973 GMC Stretch
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| Re: PD9140A Has Gone Bad [message #350652 is a reply to message #350647] |
Thu, 12 December 2019 21:41  |
Ken Burton
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Why don't you contact Progressive Dynamics Service department in Marshall, Michigan.
https://www.progressivedyn.com/
They will fix and return it you. Mine has been plugged in and running 24/7 for 14 or 15 years except while traveling down the road.
Address: 507 Industrial Rd,
Marshall, MI 49068
Phone: (269) 781-4241
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: PD9140A Has Gone Bad [message #350691 is a reply to message #350685] |
Sat, 14 December 2019 16:46 |
Ken Burton
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OK Gary,
I have never been inside that unit so I do not know if those fuses are on the input side (120 volt AC) or on the output side (12 volt DC).
If I wanted a spare, I would buy the same thing again. You are one of the few people that have reported to have a problem with one.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] PD9140A Has Gone Bad [message #350698 is a reply to message #350691] |
Sat, 14 December 2019 18:19 |
Richard Denney
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Those fuses are on the 12-volt outputs, and they are primarily there to
protect it from a big mistake, like wiring a battery backwards. Ask me how
I know.
Hitting the boost solenoid when the chassis battery is really low and the
coach is plugged in could to it, too, if there's no other protection.
Rick “unit should never draw more than about 5 amps in the 120-VAC side”
Denney
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 5:47 PM Ken Burton via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> OK Gary,
>
> I have never been inside that unit so I do not know if those fuses are on
> the input side (120 volt AC) or on the output side (12 volt DC).
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> If I wanted a spare, I would buy the same thing again. You are one of
> the few people that have reported to have a problem with one.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] PD9140A Has Gone Bad [message #350702 is a reply to message #350701] |
Sat, 14 December 2019 22:07 |
James Hupy
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Visit their website, or look in Applied GMC site as well. Lots of choices.
If you think towards the future, you might upgrade to 65 amps or so.
Remember, you can weld quite nicely with 40 amps at 12 volts.
But, the old BUZZ box has got to go. They have tried countless
batteries, including 3 of mine.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019, 7:47 PM Shawn Bennear via Gmclist <
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> not to sound idiotic, but one of these would replace my original and still
> running buzzbox? Is 40 amp enough?
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> Shawn
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| Re: [GMCnet] PD9140A Has Gone Bad [message #350704 is a reply to message #350702] |
Sun, 15 December 2019 00:14 |
James Hupy
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Darn spell check. I meant Fried, not tried.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019, 8:07 PM James Hupy wrote:
> Visit their website, or look in Applied GMC site as well. Lots of
> choices. If you think towards the future, you might upgrade to 65 amps or
> so. Remember, you can weld quite nicely with 40 amps at 12 volts.
> But, the old BUZZ box has got to go. They have tried countless
> batteries, including 3 of mine.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
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> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019, 7:47 PM Shawn Bennear via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> not to sound idiotic, but one of these would replace my original and
>> still running buzzbox? Is 40 amp enough?
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>> Shawn
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>> 1977 Palm Beach, 403 V8 w headers.
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| Re: PD9140A Has Gone Bad [message #350715 is a reply to message #350647] |
Sun, 15 December 2019 16:30 |
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Matt Colie
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Gary,
While not an EE, as a ship's engineer I have been taking care of batteries and doing electrics on on small (less than 200 ton) vessels for a long time. I will advise that unless you have a special case, you stay in the 40 amp neighborhood. Even if the house bank has been upgraded from the Grp 31 that is usually in the front of coaches our age. There are two issues of importance.
First is the gauge of the existing wires. They were sized for the 40 amp converter. The next stop is 60, and while that is not likely to be a fire hazard, the additional will just heat things.
Then, if your coach is still as built, the conductor to the house bank is too long and small to ever get over 30 (27.5) amps no matter what you do. Trust me on this, I think I worn out the BTDT shirt.
My house bank was a pair of GC2s and is now 105s (slight upgrade), and there was nothing I could do to recover the house bank from either shore power or APU in less than a good number of hours. That is OK, the bank likes the slow charge better.
Glad you found the blown fuses, but were I you, I would keep a watch on things. The conditions that blow those fuses are not common and unless there has been a failure they should be good for a long time.
Do you have the Wizard pendant for the 9140? If you do not, it is worth getting it. That will make the PD much more correct and the bank will love you for it.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
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| Re: PD9140A Has Gone Bad [message #350716 is a reply to message #350647] |
Sun, 15 December 2019 16:30 |
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Matt Colie
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Double posted because my boardband is slow today
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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