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[GMCnet] Oil cooler line connections [message #349939] Thu, 07 November 2019 19:14 Go to next message
Gerard Hickey is currently offline  Gerard Hickey   United States
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Good evening,

I have a good one and hopefully will not leave everyone scratching their
heads.

I am replacing the oil cooler lines (just the flex lines) on a 455
engine. On the end of the hard tubes is a flare connection with male
threads and on the end of the flex lines is another flare connection
with female threads. So how does one join these connections together?

I just finished taking some copper washers and adapting them to be used
for a flared fitting. See https://youtu.be/u7WULLs2nV8 to see what I made.

Now that I have more light to work with tonight I started trying to put
everything together and then I realized that both ends were flared I
figure that the copper washer as a flare gasket will not work. Am I wrong?

If both ends were male threads, then It would be a fairly simple trip to
O'Reillys to get a connector that would join both flares together. With
the one end being female threads, that seems to be throwing a wrench
into everything.

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

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Re: [GMCnet] Oil cooler line connections [message #349942 is a reply to message #349939] Thu, 07 November 2019 20:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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Use a coupler

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 5:15 PM Gerard Hickey via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> Good evening,
>
> I have a good one and hopefully will not leave everyone scratching their
> heads.
>
> I am replacing the oil cooler lines (just the flex lines) on a 455
> engine. On the end of the hard tubes is a flare connection with male
> threads and on the end of the flex lines is another flare connection
> with female threads. So how does one join these connections together?
>
> I just finished taking some copper washers and adapting them to be used
> for a flared fitting. See https://youtu.be/u7WULLs2nV8 to see what I made.
>
> Now that I have more light to work with tonight I started trying to put
> everything together and then I realized that both ends were flared I
> figure that the copper washer as a flare gasket will not work. Am I wrong?
>
> If both ends were male threads, then It would be a fairly simple trip to
> O'Reillys to get a connector that would join both flares together. With
> the one end being female threads, that seems to be throwing a wrench
> into everything.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Gerard Hickey / WTØF IRLP:3067/Echolink:529661
> hickey@kinetic-compute.com DMR: 3102272
> 425-395-4554
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Oil cooler line connections [message #350037 is a reply to message #349939] Mon, 11 November 2019 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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The YouTube method's simpler & better, but if you can't get copper gaskets,
this can work too (did for me anyway):
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4452-flare-fitting-repair-with-copper-seal.html

Ken H.

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 8:15 PM Gerard Hickey via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> Good evening,
>
> I have a good one and hopefully will not leave everyone scratching their
> heads.
>
> I am replacing the oil cooler lines (just the flex lines) on a 455
> engine. On the end of the hard tubes is a flare connection with male
> threads and on the end of the flex lines is another flare connection
> with female threads. So how does one join these connections together?
>
> I just finished taking some copper washers and adapting them to be used
> for a flared fitting. See https://youtu.be/u7WULLs2nV8 to see what I made.
>
> Now that I have more light to work with tonight I started trying to put
> everything together and then I realized that both ends were flared I
> figure that the copper washer as a flare gasket will not work. Am I wrong?
>
> If both ends were male threads, then It would be a fairly simple trip to
> O'Reillys to get a connector that would join both flares together. With
> the one end being female threads, that seems to be throwing a wrench
> into everything.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Gerard Hickey / WTØF IRLP:3067/Echolink:529661
> hickey@kinetic-compute.com DMR: 3102272
> 425-395-4554
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Oil cooler line connections [message #350038 is a reply to message #350037] Mon, 11 November 2019 20:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jp Benson is currently offline  Jp Benson   United States
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Harbor Freight sells an assortment of copper washers.

https://www.harborfreight.com/search?q=copper%20washer%20assortment

JP
Re: [GMCnet] Oil cooler line connections [message #350044 is a reply to message #350038] Tue, 12 November 2019 08:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jp Benson wrote on Mon, 11 November 2019 21:02
Harbor Freight sells an assortment of copper washers.
https://www.harborfreight.com/search?q=copper%20washer%20assortment
JP
JP,
Those aren't flare washers and the ones I got were alright for diesel banjo fittings, but were too hard to put in an SAE flare.
Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Oil cooler line connections [message #350051 is a reply to message #350044] Tue, 12 November 2019 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Emery Stora is currently offline  Emery Stora   United States
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Matt
I had bought the Harbor Freight assortment and used my flare tool to make a flat washer into a conical one. It then worked fine in an inversed flare fitting.

Emery Stora

> On Nov 12, 2019, at 7:05 AM, Matt Colie via Gmclist wrote:
>
> Jp Benson wrote on Mon, 11 November 2019 21:02
>> Harbor Freight sells an assortment of copper washers.
>> https://www.harborfreight.com/search?q=copper%20washer%20assortment
>> JP
>
> JP,
> Those aren't flare washers and the ones I got were alright for diesel banjo fittings, but were too hard to put in an SAE flare.
> Matt
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Re: [GMCnet] Oil cooler line connections [message #350052 is a reply to message #350051] Tue, 12 November 2019 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Denney is currently offline  Richard Denney   United States
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And if it isn’t soft enough, just anneal it with a torch.

Rick “the flare tool will harden it” Denney

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 11:25 AM Emery Stora via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> Matt
> I had bought the Harbor Freight assortment and used my flare tool to make
> a flat washer into a conical one. It then worked fine in an inversed flare
> fitting.
>
> Emery Stora
>
>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 7:05 AM, Matt Colie via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Jp Benson wrote on Mon, 11 November 2019 21:02
>>> Harbor Freight sells an assortment of copper washers.
>>> https://www.harborfreight.com/search?q=copper%20washer%20assortment
>>> JP
>>
>> JP,
>> Those aren't flare washers and the ones I got were alright for diesel
> banjo fittings, but were too hard to put in an SAE flare.
>> Matt
>> --
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>> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: [GMCnet] Oil cooler line connections [message #350060 is a reply to message #350052] Tue, 12 November 2019 18:12 Go to previous message
Jp Benson is currently offline  Jp Benson   United States
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This guy does it with a cheap looking generic flare tool and a propane torch to anneal. In that order. As Mr. Colie points out there are other uses for those washers as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7WULLs2nV8

JP
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