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Air Low Light [message #349005] Mon, 07 October 2019 09:02 Go to next message
Samuel Ferguson is currently offline  Samuel Ferguson   United States
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Air compressor works fine on leveling system. Leveling system is working. Air Compressor shuts down at about 120 - 125 psi, but the "Low Air" light stays illuminated. Is there a sensor that needs replaced?

Samuel Ferguson


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Re: [GMCnet] Air Low Light [message #349007 is a reply to message #349005] Mon, 07 October 2019 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Emery Stora is currently offline  Emery Stora   United States
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There is no sensor. It is a direct connection to the light. When the compressor is running the light comes on. Someone may have moved a connection at the compressor so that it gets voltage at all times.

Emery Stora

> On Oct 7, 2019, at 8:02 AM, Samuel Ferguson via Gmclist wrote:
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> Air compressor works fine on leveling system. Leveling system is working. Air Compressor shuts down at about 120 - 125 psi, but the "Low Air" light
> stays illuminated. Is there a sensor that needs replaced?
>
> Samuel Ferguson
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> (West Central Illinois)
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Re: Air Low Light [message #349047 is a reply to message #349005] Mon, 07 October 2019 21:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rick Staples is currently offline  Rick Staples   United States
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On Power Level system there should be a switch on the tank for the Low Air light. It has two terminals according to the schematic: a brown wire coming from the warning light, and a black one going to ground. A short to ground in the brown wire would of course turn on the light.

Years ago it was suggested to connect the light to the compressor to indicate when it was running. Good idea, but not how GM did it, at least on my '75. ('76 Power Level should be same.) Assuming you have stock Power Level system, I would 1) disconnect the black wire at the switch. If light goes off, you probably have a shorted/stuck switch. 2)Next, disconnect the brown wire at the switch. Light should go out. If not, you probably have a short to ground in the wiring from the light.

OTOH, if you have Electro Level system, this may not apply to you. According to the schematic, the '76 Electro Level doesn't even have a Low Air light, but I'm not familiar with that system, so I'll defer to Emery or others.

HTH
Rick Staples


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Re: [GMCnet] Air Low Light [message #349052 is a reply to message #349047] Mon, 07 October 2019 21:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Emery Stora is currently offline  Emery Stora   United States
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Rick is correct. The the 76 and 77 GMCs did not use a light to indicate when the compressor was running but if you look closely at the plastic covering to the lights in the tell-tale panel you can see a low air but there is no bulb behind it.
I ran a wire from my compressor and put in a bulb and found some push in terminals to connect the compressor to. Several years back I mailed an instruction sheet, a bulb and a terminal out to anyone that requested one from me. I probably sent out 75 or more. I found the bulbs in the dash panels of junkyard Volvos. You can just reach up under the dash and turn out the socket with the bulb. That socket will fill our tell-tale panel.
I got the terminal clips from some 15 or 20 conductor connectors in GM junkyard vehicles.

If I look around my workshop I might find some left over from the ones I mailed out.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick CO

> On Oct 7, 2019, at 8:01 PM, Richard H Staples via Gmclist wrote:
>
> On Power Level system there should be a switch on the tank for the Low Air light. It has two terminals according to the schematic: a brown wire
> coming from the warning light, and a black one going to ground. A short to ground in the brown wire would of course turn on the light.
>
> Years ago it was suggested to connect the light to the compressor to indicate when it was running. Good idea, but not how GM did it, at least on my
> '75. ('76 Power Level should be same.) Assuming you have stock Power Level system, I would 1) disconnect the black wire at the switch. If light goes
> off, you probably have a shorted/stuck switch. 2)Next, disconnect the brown wire at the switch. Light should go out. If not, you probably have a
> short to ground in the wiring from the light.
>
> OTOH, if you have Electro Level system, this may not apply to you. According to the schematic, the '76 Electro Level doesn't even have a Low Air
> light, but I'm not familiar with that system, so I'll defer to Emery or others.
>
> HTH
> Rick Staples
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Air Low Light [message #349136 is a reply to message #349052] Thu, 10 October 2019 13:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shawn Bennear is currently offline  Shawn Bennear   United States
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Emery Stora wrote on Mon, 07 October 2019 22:57
Rick is correct. The the 76 and 77 GMCs did not use a light to indicate when the compressor was running but if you look closely at the plastic covering to the lights in the tell-tale panel you can see a low air but there is no bulb behind it.
I ran a wire from my compressor and put in a bulb and found some push in terminals to connect the compressor to. Several years back I mailed an instruction sheet, a bulb and a terminal out to anyone that requested one from me. I probably sent out 75 or more. I found the bulbs in the dash panels of junkyard Volvos. You can just reach up under the dash and turn out the socket with the bulb. That socket will fill our tell-tale panel.
I got the terminal clips from some 15 or 20 conductor connectors in GM junkyard vehicles.

If I look around my workshop I might find some left over from the ones I mailed out.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick CO


Emery,

If you find that information, I'd like to do it as well. Always wondered why that light never came on in my 77...


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Re: [GMCnet] Air Low Light [message #349140 is a reply to message #349136] Thu, 10 October 2019 14:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ethan James is currently offline  Ethan James   United States
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If your 76 is an early one like mine (#40 for 76) it still has the Power Level system. My low air switch failed and I replaced. Here is a picture of the old one and the new replacement one. It should be located on the tank, mine was in the back and it's a little hard to reach back there to screw the terminals in.

https://i.imgur.com/xsdjSZq.jpg

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Re: [GMCnet] Air Low Light [message #349143 is a reply to message #349140] Thu, 10 October 2019 15:59 Go to previous message
Samuel Ferguson is currently offline  Samuel Ferguson   United States
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Yes, that is it.

Samuel Ferguson Summer Hill, Illinois (West Central Illinois) 1976 GMC Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] Air Low Light [message #349144 is a reply to message #349140] Thu, 10 October 2019 15:53 Go to previous message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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I replaced my low pressure sensor and added a Compressor on light. I just ran a wire from the compressor switch to an empty spot in my teltale lights, added a light and now I know when the comp is on.
I also added an AC compressor light, it's pretty nice I must say
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If your 76 is an early one like mine (#40 for 76) it still has the Power Level system. My low air switch failed and I replaced. Here is a picture of
the old one and the new replacement one. It should be located on the tank, mine was in the back and it's a little hard to reach back there to screw
the terminals in.

https://i.imgur.com/xsdjSZq.jpg

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Ethan James
1976 Glenbrook "Rosie"
Roanoke, VA

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