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| Re: [GMCnet] FMCA news from GMCMI convention [message #348907 is a reply to message #348905] |
Fri, 04 October 2019 19:56   |
Emery Stora
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Jared
Where have you been for the las 5 years or so. Membership in FMCA has been optional for GMCMI members for a long time. Since the FMCA insurance policy covers GMCMI conventions
non members of FMCA could not attend conventions. However since FMCA membership is about the cost of 1/2 tank of gasoline do you really think that if people are too cheap to pay the membership to FMCA they would come to GMCMI conventions anyway? Conventions cost about $440 plus the cost of travel. That often is several hundred dollars of gasoline plus the cost of oil, tires, etc. I have often spent $1500 to $2000 to attend a convention.
We currently have an associate membership in GMCMI which doesn’t require the member to join FMCA.
So, what you are indicating has absolute no effect.
Also non FMCA members don’t have the emergency evacuation program that members have. To me that is worth more than the cost of FMCA membership.
The last person that had to be evacuated had FMCA cover about $15,000 of evacuation cost plus FMCA arranged for the return of their motorhome and toad across the country to their home.
FMCA also paid the airfare of the member and his wire home when he got out of the hospital. Would that be worth the $75 per year membership fee?
There are many other benefits for members. So, your great news is that you think you will save $75 (which you already are since you are not a member) but you are giving up several hundreds worth of other benefits of membership.
Emery Stora
> On Oct 4, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Jared Kohl via Gmclist wrote:
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> Subject to membership approval, membership in FMCA will now be optional for GMC owners.
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> I'm sure more news will come.
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> Great news IMO.
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> Jared
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| Re: [GMCnet] FMCA news from GMCMI convention [message #348914 is a reply to message #348905] |
Fri, 04 October 2019 21:17 |
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Matt Colie
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I was listening to that this evening and trying to think of why it really matters.
Having been a officer of a chapter, how will all of the individual chapters fit in to this arrangement.
Would I be an officer without such protection? I have been, but I had other personal coverage and other shelters.
I can not tell you what a younger member might do. I know that I had a Rear Commodore resign when he realized the risk.
And to answer Emery with all do consideration and respect, what FMCA has to offer will have to be evaluated in great detail. Unlike many, we do indeed live our existence on that bottom right corner of the balance (spread) sheet. The RV budget is very limited. And yes, FMCA may be less than a tank of fuel, but those tanks have to be considered, and if the ROI for FMCA does not meet the evaluation, so be it. We miss many functions of chapters and other things because the resources are not there.
While there are not many of the younger owners that could have taken the financial beating that I was dealt by the prior administration's abrogation. But then again, they have not yet had the opportunity to have 28 years of no good vacations and no big toys taken away so you could put savings away for retirement. As that is what they should be working on, then all those things do matter.
Matt - here at Mansfield and yes, KenB made it.
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] FMCA news from GMCMI convention [message #348919 is a reply to message #348914] |
Fri, 04 October 2019 22:16 |
James Hupy
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Again, East Coast Frugality shows itself. No criticism of anyone is
intended here. We all pay liability insurance on vehicles that we drive,
and hope that we NEVER have to find out if that hard earned money is well
spent. Same goes for homeowners insurance, and the biggest consumer fraud
of all of them, Life insurance. (You have to die to collect on that, what a
deal)
When my first wife Mary was in the hospital for a mitral valve
replacement, she was in the Advanced Cardiac Care Unit for 78 days. After I
transferred her to Oregon Health Sciences University Hospital in Portland,
The Salem Hospital who botched her surgery that eventually led to her
death, had the ba##s to send me a bill for $30,000.00 less than ONE MILLION
DOLLARS. Let that figure sink in a moment. Without supplemental personally
paid health insurance, It would have forced me into personal bankruptcy.
Same goes for the FMCA Seven Corners insurance. Yes, it costs
something, and MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, you will never need to use it. You better
hope you don't ever have to find out the hard way. Benefits for all the
services available from that policy easily run into far in excess of
$100,000.00. That is like playing Russian Roulette with all the chambers
loaded. I will pass on that gamble, but long life has taught me a few
things. Learn from my experience.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 7:18 PM Matt Colie via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> I was listening to that this evening and trying to think of why it really
> matters.
>
> Having been a officer of a chapter, how will all of the individual
> chapters fit in to this arrangement.
> Would I be an officer without such protection? I have been, but I had
> other personal coverage and other shelters.
> I can not tell you what a younger member might do. I know that I had a
> Rear Commodore resign when he realized the risk.
>
> And to answer Emery with all do consideration and respect, what FMCA has
> to offer will have to be evaluated in great detail. Unlike many, we do
> indeed live our existence on that bottom right corner of the balance
> (spread) sheet. The RV budget is very limited. And yes, FMCA may be less
> than a
> tank of fuel, but those tanks have to be considered, and if the ROI for
> FMCA does not meet the evaluation, so be it. We miss many functions of
> chapters and other things because the resources are not there.
>
> While there are not many of the younger owners that could have taken the
> financial beating that I was dealt by the prior administration's
> abrogation.
> But then again, they have not yet had the opportunity to have 28 years of
> no good vacations and no big toys taken away so you could put savings away
> for retirement. As that is what they should be working on, then all those
> things do matter.
>
> Matt - here at Mansfield and yes, KenB made it.
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] FMCA news from GMCMI convention [message #348923 is a reply to message #348905] |
Sat, 05 October 2019 07:44 |
6cuda6
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So if i am reading this correctly.....as a Canadian, if i want to attend a GMCMI convention i must have FMCA? (Cost is not important).
These are things that newbie owners like me need to know and learn....
Rich Mondor,
Brockville, ON
77 Hughes 2600
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| Re: [GMCnet] FMCA news from GMCMI convention [message #348926 is a reply to message #348923] |
Sat, 05 October 2019 09:10 |
Kimberlea Weeks
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Non-FMCA members are allowed (due to insurance) to come one time and
check us out. Please do attend.kim
*Thank you for being a member and supporting the GMC Motorhome lifestyle.*
*Kimberlea Weeks | GMC Motorhomes International *
Vice President of Administration | Convention Manager
1402 So. Cage Blvd., Unit 273 | Pharr, TX 78577-6288
612.501.4600 | f.866.519.0047 | www.gmcmi.com
*We invite you to join us!*
*2019 GMCMI Fall Convention – "Celebrating GMC Flyers"*
October 4-10 | Richland County Fairgrounds, Mansfield,Ohio
*2020 GMCMI Spring Convention – "Mardi Gras"*
April 17-23 | Patterson Area Civic Center | Patterson, Louisiana
On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 7:45 AM tonka6cuda6--- via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> So if i am reading this correctly.....as a Canadian, if i want to attend a
> GMCMI convention i must have FMCA? (Cost is not important).
>
> These are things that newbie owners like me need to know and learn....
> --
> Rich Mondor,
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> Brockville, ON
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> 77 Hughes 2600
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| Re: [GMCnet] FMCA news from GMCMI convention [message #348927 is a reply to message #348926] |
Sat, 05 October 2019 09:52 |
jimk
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This was fee jump was a last minute move that had to be done as the
insurance co hit them with the last second notice.
Jerry Work informed us that they will be looking into another insurance
organization.
Being covered no mater where in the world one is at and people cashing over
the phone questions and overloading them has influenced their decision to
make the big jump.
On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 7:11 AM Kimberlea Weeks via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Non-FMCA members are allowed (due to insurance) to come one time and
> check us out. Please do attend.kim
>
> *Thank you for being a member and supporting the GMC Motorhome lifestyle.*
>
> *Kimberlea Weeks | GMC Motorhomes International *
> Vice President of Administration | Convention Manager
> 1402 So. Cage Blvd., Unit 273 | Pharr, TX 78577
>
> -6288
> 612.501.4600 | f.866.519.0047 | www.gmcmi.com
>
> *We invite you to join us!*
>
> *2019 GMCMI Fall Convention – "Celebrating GMC Flyers"*
> October 4-10 | Richland County Fairgrounds, Mansfield,Ohio
>
> *2020 GMCMI Spring Convention – "Mardi Gras"*
> April 17-23 | Patterson Area Civic Center | Patterson, Louisiana
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 7:45 AM tonka6cuda6--- via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> So if i am reading this correctly.....as a Canadian, if i want to attend
> a
>> GMCMI convention i must have FMCA? (Cost is not important).
>>
>> These are things that newbie owners like me need to know and learn....
>> --
>> Rich Mondor,
>>
>> Brockville, ON
>>
>> 77 Hughes 2600
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] FMCA news from GMCMI convention [message #348942 is a reply to message #348927] |
Sat, 05 October 2019 17:43 |
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If GMCMI seceded from FMCA, there will be NO effect on those of us who
still belong to other GMC subchapter of FMCA. But those who are now
restricted members (Associates) will become FULL members. And those who
are now reluctant to join GMCMI because of FMCA, for any reason, will be
able to join us. That will hopefully help us to grow.
Let's "quit".
Ken H.
On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 10:53 AM Jim Kanomata via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> This was fee jump was a last minute move that had to be done as the
> insurance co hit them with the last second notice.
> Jerry Work informed us that they will be looking into another insurance
> organization.
> Being covered no mater where in the world one is at and people cashing over
> the phone questions and overloading them has influenced their decision to
> make the big jump.
>
> On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 7:11 AM Kimberlea Weeks via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Non-FMCA members are allowed (due to insurance) to come one time and
>> check us out. Please do attend.kim
>>
>> *Thank you for being a member and supporting the GMC Motorhome
> lifestyle.*
>>
>> *Kimberlea Weeks | GMC Motorhomes International *
>> Vice President of Administration | Convention Manager
>> 1402 So. Cage Blvd., Unit 273 | Pharr, TX 78577
>> .,+Unit+273+%7C+Pharr,+TX+78577?entry=gmail&source=g>
>> -6288
>> 612.501.4600 | f.866.519.0047 | www.gmcmi.com
>>
>> *We invite you to join us!*
>>
>> *2019 GMCMI Fall Convention – "Celebrating GMC Flyers"*
>> October 4-10 | Richland County Fairgrounds, Mansfield,Ohio
>>
>> *2020 GMCMI Spring Convention – "Mardi Gras"*
>> April 17-23 | Patterson Area Civic Center | Patterson, Louisiana
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 7:45 AM tonka6cuda6--- via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> So if i am reading this correctly.....as a Canadian, if i want to
> attend
>> a
>>> GMCMI convention i must have FMCA? (Cost is not important).
>>>
>>> These are things that newbie owners like me need to know and learn....
>>> --
>>> Rich Mondor,
>>>
>>> Brockville, ON
>>>
>>> 77 Hughes 2600
>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] FMCA news from GMCMI convention [message #348946 is a reply to message #348905] |
Sat, 05 October 2019 20:00 |
6cuda6
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I just find it interesting because i carry travel insurance do to my job. I understand the reasoning but wonder if as a Canadian i would not be covered even with a membership due to not having a US address.
Rich Mondor,
Brockville, ON
77 Hughes 2600
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| Re: [GMCnet] FMCA news from GMCMI convention [message #348948 is a reply to message #348905] |
Sat, 05 October 2019 20:27 |
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werewilfs wrote on Fri, 04 October 2019 19:15Subject to membership approval, membership in FMCA will now be optional for GMC owners.
I'm sure more news will come.
Great news IMO.
Jared
For me the "emergency evacuation program" is worth the price of admission to FMCA. The tire program, road service, magazine and most of the other programs, not so much. I have utilized the FMCA campground several times in the past.
I hope I never have to use the "evacuation program". I do have some piece of mind that it is there in the event I become unable to drive my GMC while on a long distance trip.
I am paid up with FMCA through 2026 at the lower price.
Richard
76 Palm Beach
SE Michigan
www.PalmBeachGMC.com
Roller Cam 455, TBI+EBL, 3.42 FD, 4 Bag, Macerator, Lenzi (brakes, vacuum system, front end stuff), Manny Tranny, vacuum step, Tankless + OEM water heaters.
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| Re: [GMCnet] FMCA news from GMCMI convention [message #348950 is a reply to message #348948] |
Sat, 05 October 2019 20:36 |
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Thankfully no one will be forced to not join FMCA if they decide for themselves the benefits befit their traveling lifestyle.
Jared & Stefanie Kohl
Rappahannock County, VA
1973 Painted Desert "Onslow"
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| Re: [GMCnet] FMCA news from GMCMI convention [message #348951 is a reply to message #348947] |
Sat, 05 October 2019 21:00 |
James Hupy
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You never need insurance until you need it. Then, if you don't have it, you
pay for it out of your pocket. Been there, done that. Never again.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 6:08 PM Emery Stora via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> You would be covered while at the convention even if your home address is
> in Canada.
>
> I remember at a Convention someone ran a golf cart into a Prevost.
> Demolished the golf cart and over $15,000 damage to the Prevost.
>
> FMCA insurance covered it all.
>
> Emery Stora
>
>> On Oct 5, 2019, at 7:00 PM, tonka6cuda6--- via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I just find it interesting because i carry travel insurance do to my
> job. I understand the reasoning but wonder if as a Canadian i would not be
>> covered even with a membership due to not having a US address.
>> --
>> Rich Mondor,
>>
>> Brockville, ON
>>
>> 77 Hughes 2600
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| Re: [GMCnet] FMCA news from GMCMI convention [message #348954 is a reply to message #348951] |
Sat, 05 October 2019 22:10 |
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As I read it, the FMCAssist program covers all members world-wide whenever
traveling more than 100 miles from home. It only covers return of rv within
North America. So yes, Canadian, German, Australian, etc, members are
covered. And if you are a full-timer, you always considered to be 100 miles
from home. It covers spouses and dependants traveling with you also.
Fay Curtis
'76 Glenbrook
Kneeland, Ca
>
>
On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 6:59 PM James Hupy via Gmclist
wrote:
> You never need insurance until you need it. Then, if you don't have it, you
> pay for it out of your pocket. Been there, done that. Never again.
> Jim Hupy
> Salem, Oregon
>
> On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 6:08 PM Emery Stora via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> You would be covered while at the convention even if your home address is
>> in Canada.
>>
>> I remember at a Convention someone ran a golf cart into a Prevost.
>> Demolished the golf cart and over $15,000 damage to the Prevost.
>>
>> FMCA insurance covered it all.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>>
>>> On Oct 5, 2019, at 7:00 PM, tonka6cuda6--- via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I just find it interesting because i carry travel insurance do to my
>> job. I understand the reasoning but wonder if as a Canadian i would not
> be
>>> covered even with a membership due to not having a US address.
>>> --
>>> Rich Mondor,
>>>
>>> Brockville, ON
>>>
>>> 77 Hughes 2600
>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] FMCA news from GMCMI convention [message #348959 is a reply to message #348954] |
Sat, 05 October 2019 23:22 |
jimk
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Grace and I pay big money for the Coverage to be taken back home from any
place and any condition, so I can see why they are charging FMCS big bucks.
On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 8:44 PM Burt and Faye curtis via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> As I read it, the FMCAssist program covers all members world-wide whenever
> traveling more than 100 miles from home. It only covers return of rv within
> North America. So yes, Canadian, German, Australian, etc, members are
> covered. And if you are a full-timer, you always considered to be 100 miles
> from home. It covers spouses and dependants traveling with you also.
>
> Fay Curtis
> '76 Glenbrook
> Kneeland, Ca
>
>>
>>
> On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 6:59 PM James Hupy via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> You never need insurance until you need it. Then, if you don't have it,
> you
>> pay for it out of your pocket. Been there, done that. Never again.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Oregon
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 6:08 PM Emery Stora via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> You would be covered while at the convention even if your home address
> is
>>> in Canada.
>>>
>>> I remember at a Convention someone ran a golf cart into a Prevost.
>>> Demolished the golf cart and over $15,000 damage to the Prevost.
>>>
>>> FMCA insurance covered it all.
>>>
>>> Emery Stora
>>>
>>>> On Oct 5, 2019, at 7:00 PM, tonka6cuda6--- via Gmclist >> gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I just find it interesting because i carry travel insurance do to my
>>> job. I understand the reasoning but wonder if as a Canadian i would not
>> be
>>>> covered even with a membership due to not having a US address.
>>>> --
>>>> Rich Mondor,
>>>>
>>>> Brockville, ON
>>>>
>>>> 77 Hughes 2600
>>>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] FMCA news from GMCMI convention [message #348999 is a reply to message #348905] |
Mon, 07 October 2019 08:07 |
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I paid an additional eighty bux for the road hazard inshoance. Which hauled me home on a BIG hook. Negotiated an extra hundred because the tow was over a hundred miles. According to the driver, Road Assist or whatever ended up paying his company 1250 dollars for the tow. Worthwhile.
I did a 'Ken Henderson' and negotiated to McMichael's repair, a mile from my house at the race track. I had the driver drop it off in my drievway before he got to McMichaels, worked fine.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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