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Wed, 11 September 2019 14:37  |
Kevin F
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Greetings,
I am now as of last week the new owner of a 1977 GMC Royale that I drove back last weekend from MI to MA. The trip went well and 950 miles later I am much more comfortable driving this beast than I was during the first hour.........lol However, Im looking to upgrade the seats to a set out of a 2018 Honda Odyssey. I think these would be perfect since they have the integral shoulder strap. Has anyone done this fit up?
Thanx again
Kevin
1977 GMC Royale 403
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| Re: 2018-19 Honda Odyssey seats [message #347694 is a reply to message #347685] |
Wed, 11 September 2019 18:34  |
Steve
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Welcome aboard, its going to be a fun ride.
1978 GMC Royal
Eastern Pennslyvania
1968 Chevrolet C20 396 Camper Special
1969 Chevrolet C20 Camper Special
1985 Buick Electra Park Avenue
1992 Camaro 25th Anniversary Heretage Edition Black
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| Re: [GMCnet] 2018-19 Honda Odyssey seats [message #347704 is a reply to message #347699] |
Wed, 11 September 2019 20:15 |
Kevin F
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Excellent, thanx for all the info........ 
Those of you that have done the swap are you still utilizing the lap belts or another type of seatbelt. The reason I was looking into the later models was that they have an integrated shoulder strap which I believe would be a definite upgrade to only a lap belt and therefore no longer need the original lap belt. Since I havent had a chance to get into it too much does anyone know how the pedestal for the seat is secured. Is it bolted to the frame or other structural support under the floor?
Thanx again
Kevin
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| Re: 2018-19 Honda Odyssey seats [message #347731 is a reply to message #347685] |
Thu, 12 September 2019 08:58 |
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Kevin,
Welcome to the group, family, cult, asylum....
I am very glad that you found your way here to get the good information.
Sorry I am so late getting to you, but I have been very busy.
However, you need to do both yourself and us a favor. This is just so we can do a better job of assisting you along the way. You are working the list as the forum, so this is easy. Go to <Control Panel/Account Settings> and find <Preferences>. There you will find a Signature box. Fill in a name you like to be known as (real is best), a short about the coach (your first post mentioned 77 Royale, add if it is a 403 or 455) and geographic reference (central MA will not be seen by those that get this as email - about half). This way, two things, when you meet other owners they will know who you are and when you ask questions, the replies can be Coachmen specific. This is good all around.
If you have not, you will soon discover that the coach is much more than a big new toy because it connects you to this community. This is a community of helping and supportive people that is both amazing and rare. Because this reminds me so of that of the watermen of my world, I like to welcome new owners here much as you might be there. So,
May the Good Lord bless this coach and all those that set forth within here.
Welcome Kevin
Matt
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| Re: [GMCnet] 2018-19 Honda Odyssey seats [message #347734 is a reply to message #347731] |
Thu, 12 September 2019 09:12 |
Will Albers
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Kevin,
The mounting system of the seat is your weak link here. The shoulder belt
is giving you a false sense of security when the seat itself is held on by
a single bolt. While the belt will keep you attached to the chair, what is
keeping the chair attached to the vehicle?
The OEM system holds you against the chair, secured at the floor.
To that, I'd still recommend the Odyssey seats. I have a later model set in
my rig, but i utilize the lap belt and their mounting points.
-Will
On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 9:58 AM Matt Colie via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Kevin,
>
> Welcome to the group, family, cult, asylum....
>
> I am very glad that you found your way here to get the good information.
>
> Sorry I am so late getting to you, but I have been very busy.
>
> However, you need to do both yourself and us a favor. This is just so we
> can do a better job of assisting you along the way. You are working the
> list as the forum, so this is easy. Go to Settings> and find . There you will find a Signature box.
> Fill in a
> name you like to be known as (real is best), a short about the coach (your
> first post mentioned 77 Royale, add if it is a 403 or 455) and geographic
> reference (central MA will not be seen by those that get this as email -
> about half). This way, two things, when you meet other owners they will
> know
> who you are and when you ask questions, the replies can be Coachmen
> specific. This is good all around.
>
> If you have not, you will soon discover that the coach is much more than a
> big new toy because it connects you to this community. This is a community
> of helping and supportive people that is both amazing and rare. Because
> this reminds me so of that of the watermen of my world, I like to welcome
> new
> owners here much as you might be there. So,
>
> May the Good Lord bless this coach and all those that set forth within
> here.
>
> Welcome Kevin
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] 2018-19 Honda Odyssey seats [message #347735 is a reply to message #347734] |
Thu, 12 September 2019 09:28 |
Kevin F
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Will, Thats what I was thinking, but there must be a way to achieve the best of both worlds. Has anyone been able to incorporate the mounting points of the original seatbelts into a replacement seat, whether by cabling or other such method? Is the pedestal the seat sits on securely mounted to the frame through the wood flooring?
Thanx
Will Albers wrote on Thu, 12 September 2019 09:12Kevin,
The mounting system of the seat is your weak link here. The shoulder belt
is giving you a false sense of security when the seat itself is held on by
a single bolt. While the belt will keep you attached to the chair, what is
keeping the chair attached to the vehicle?
The OEM system holds you against the chair, secured at the floor.
To that, I'd still recommend the Odyssey seats. I have a later model set in
my rig, but i utilize the lap belt and their mounting points.
-Will
On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 9:58 AM Matt Colie via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Kevin,
>
> Welcome to the group, family, cult, asylum....
>
> I am very glad that you found your way here to get the good information.
>
> Sorry I am so late getting to you, but I have been very busy.
>
> However, you need to do both yourself and us a favor. This is just so we
> can do a better job of assisting you along the way. You are working the
> list as the forum, so this is easy. Go to Settings> and find . There you will find a Signature box.
> Fill in a
> name you like to be known as (real is best), a short about the coach (your
> first post mentioned 77 Royale, add if it is a 403 or 455) and geographic
> reference (central MA will not be seen by those that get this as email -
> about half). This way, two things, when you meet other owners they will
> know
> who you are and when you ask questions, the replies can be Coachmen
> specific. This is good all around.
>
> If you have not, you will soon discover that the coach is much more than a
> big new toy because it connects you to this community. This is a community
> of helping and supportive people that is both amazing and rare. Because
> this reminds me so of that of the watermen of my world, I like to welcome
> new
> owners here much as you might be there. So,
>
> May the Good Lord bless this coach and all those that set forth within
> here.
>
> Welcome Kevin
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] 2018-19 Honda Odyssey seats [message #347738 is a reply to message #347735] |
Thu, 12 September 2019 09:42 |
Will Albers
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The base is connected to wood and frame. I'm not knowledgeable enough on
the topic to quote how much force the seat base is designed for, but i can
say that the mounting of the seat belts appears much beefier than the
seats. Others will have more experience on the topic, and it has been done.
I wonder if their solutions still allow for rotation?
I wouldnt trust ~250# at a 60 mph to that bolt. =)
On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 10:29 AM Kevin via Gmclist
wrote:
> Will, Thats what I was thinking, but there must be a way to achieve the
> best of both worlds. Has anyone been able to incorporate the mounting points
> of the original seatbelts into a replacement seat, whether by cabling or
> other such method? Is the pedestal the seat sits on securely mounted to the
> frame through the wood flooring?
>
> Thanx
>
>
>
> Will Albers wrote on Thu, 12 September 2019 09:12
>> Kevin,
>>
>> The mounting system of the seat is your weak link here. The shoulder belt
>> is giving you a false sense of security when the seat itself is held on
> by
>> a single bolt. While the belt will keep you attached to the chair, what
> is
>> keeping the chair attached to the vehicle?
>>
>> The OEM system holds you against the chair, secured at the floor.
>>
>> To that, I'd still recommend the Odyssey seats. I have a later model set
> in
>> my rig, but i utilize the lap belt and their mounting points.
>>
>> -Will
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 9:58 AM Matt Colie via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Kevin,
>>>
>>> Welcome to the group, family, cult, asylum....
>>>
>>> I am very glad that you found your way here to get the good
> information.
>>>
>>> Sorry I am so late getting to you, but I have been very busy.
>>>
>>> However, you need to do both yourself and us a favor. This is just
> so we
>>> can do a better job of assisting you along the way. You are working
> the
>>> list as the forum, so this is easy. Go to Settings> and find .
> There you will find a Signature box.
>>> Fill in a
>>> name you like to be known as (real is best), a short about the coach
> (your
>>> first post mentioned 77 Royale, add if it is a 403 or 455) and
> geographic
>>> reference (central MA will not be seen by those that get this as
> email -
>>> about half). This way, two things, when you meet other owners they
> will
>>> know
>>> who you are and when you ask questions, the replies can be Coachmen
>>> specific. This is good all around.
>>>
>>> If you have not, you will soon discover that the coach is much more
> than a
>>> big new toy because it connects you to this community. This is a
> community
>>> of helping and supportive people that is both amazing and rare.
> Because
>>> this reminds me so of that of the watermen of my world, I like to
> welcome
>>> new
>>> owners here much as you might be there. So,
>>>
>>> May the Good Lord bless this coach and all those that set forth within
>>> here.
>>>
>>> Welcome Kevin
>>>
>>> Matt
>>> --
>>> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>>> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
>>> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
>>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] 2018-19 Honda Odyssey seats [message #347741 is a reply to message #347739] |
Thu, 12 September 2019 10:29 |
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I have seen aftermath photographs of two GMC's involved in rollover
accidents. One was Peter Huber's coach on the back of a ramp style wrecker,
the other one was someone whom I did not know, and they drove off the
shoulder into the median and rolled the coach twice.
In both cases, the only thing sticking up above the belt line was the
steering column and wheel, and both seats.
Don't know too much about front impact or side impact collisions,
though. I suspect the survivorship numbers would be similar to a 60's -
70's VW bus. Pretty grim. My advice here. Avoidance at all costs.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 7:59 AM Jim Kanomata via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> We found out from Tom Hampton of Grandviw that in order to use the shoulder
> seat on the coach, lot of support must be done to the floor and mount.
> We supply the 3 way belt system that Rick Flanagan designed and used that
> will overcome these concerns.
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> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 7:45 AM Justin Brady via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>> I think the issue is the seat needs to pivot, so by default your strength
>> is limited to that one pivot point.
>> In a car there are 4 bolts securing the seat as it doesn't spin.
>>
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>> http://www.thegmcrv.com/
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| Re: [GMCnet] 2018-19 Honda Odyssey seats [message #347746 is a reply to message #347741] |
Thu, 12 September 2019 12:34 |
Kevin F
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I guess one could just use both the original lap belt in addition to the belt that comes with the odyssey...... Hmmmmmmmmmmm
Sounds to me that a bigger issue should be the installation of a roll cage in case of a rollover. At least in that case you'll have a mounting point for a shoulder belt if you choose to go with the system Jim mentioned from applied.....  Jim you wouldnt happen to have install instructions for this set up would you, along with some pics?
I would think that this would be the case with most motorhomes though in the event of a rollover and not just a GMC, no?
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| Re: [GMCnet] 2018-19 Honda Odyssey seats [message #347893 is a reply to message #347746] |
Sun, 15 September 2019 21:10 |
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Hi guys,
I was able to locate a seat of second row seats in nice shape out of a 2018 Honda Odyssey last weekend. The game plan today was to remove the rail slides underneath the seats and install today. Well how does the saying go...."Best laid plans, etc." I swear Honda purposely hides the nuts on these things just to make it difficult. Unlike every other seat I know of these dont have bolts that you can access from underneath. Instead the bolt is pressed into the rail and tack welded in place from below, while the nut that secures the rail the the seat frame is on top........ 
I was able to locate all six of the bolts but only able to remove 5 of them. The last %^#@* is boxed in on three sides and I believe only accessible from the top. It is the furthest back behind the seat and on the side with the seat adjustments. However for the life of me I cant figure out how to get access to it. Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated.
Thanx a bunch
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| Re: [GMCnet] 2018-19 Honda Odyssey seats [message #347960 is a reply to message #347948] |
Mon, 16 September 2019 19:04 |
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We do have instruction sheet that will give you better idea and how it is
mounted.
Power went out here so we need to do it Tuesday am
Please send over your email address to my address:
jimk@appliedairfilters.com
On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 3:51 PM tonka6cuda6--- via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Kevin F wrote on Sun, 15 September 2019 22:10
>> Hi guys,
>> I was able to locate a seat of second row seats in nice shape out of
> a 2018 Honda Odyssey last weekend. The game plan today was to remove the
>> rail slides underneath the seats and install today. Well how does the
> saying go...."Best laid plans, etc." I swear Honda purposely hides the nuts
> on
>> these things just to make it difficult. Unlike every other seat I know
> of these dont have bolts that you can access from underneath. Instead the
>> bolt is pressed into the rail and tack welded in place from below, while
> the nut that secures the rail the the seat frame is on top........ 8o
>> I was able to locate all six of the bolts but only able to remove 5
> of them. The last %^#@* is boxed in on three sides and I believe only
>> accessible from the top. It is the furthest back behind the seat and on
> the side with the seat adjustments. However for the life of me I cant figure
>> out how to get access to it. Any help or insight would be greatly
> appreciated.
>>
>> Thanx a bunch
>
> If its that bad just take the seat cushion off....on a honda its usually
> easy as the cover is held on by plastic sleeve retainers. Just undo the
> retainers and gain access to the seat foam....go from there. YMMV.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] 2018-19 Honda Odyssey seats [message #348038 is a reply to message #347893] |
Tue, 17 September 2019 15:07 |
Will Albers
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Kevin,
Why remove the rails? I left mine on, which allows for nice forward/back
adjustments. I'm 6 foot and find it very comfortable.
-Will
On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 10:10 PM Kevin via Gmclist
wrote:
> Hi guys,
> I was able to locate a seat of second row seats in nice shape out of a
> 2018 Honda Odyssey last weekend. The game plan today was to remove the rail
> slides under neath the seats and install today. Well how does the saying
> go...."Best laid plans, etc." I swear Honda purposely hides the nuts on
> these
> things just to make it difficult. Unlike every other seat I know of these
> dont have bolts that you can access from underneath. Instead the bolt is
> pressed into the rail and tack welded in place from below, while the nut
> that secures the rail the the seat frame is on top........ 8o
> I was able to locate all six of the bolts but only able to remove 5 of
> them. The last %^#@* is boxed in on three sides and I believe only
> accessible from the top. It is the furthest back behind the seat and on
> the side with the seat adjustments. However for the life of me I cant figure
> out how to get access to it. Any help or insight would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanx a bunch
> --
> 1977 GMC Royale 403
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] 2018-19 Honda Odyssey seats [message #348048 is a reply to message #348038] |
Tue, 17 September 2019 16:23 |
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Unfortunately no way to utilize the tracks since they have hooks that fit into the rail system in the Honda. The clamping mechanism cant just be removed. Its all integral to the rail...........
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