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Good Afternoon

Question for those in the know of body side mouldings.

I have a 78 that I am slowly working on to paint refinish in (hopefully) the not to distant future.

Anyways, no doubt about it the early models with the large stainless trim with the rubber body side moulding affixed inside looks way better than just the rubber side moulding with or without the faux chrome trim on it, which was originally offered on ours.

Is it doable to install the early model stainless mouldings on the 78? And by doable I mean relatively simple and would look like it belongs.

Anyone?

Thanks in advance!





Jim Owens, 78 Royale, Out skirts of Kitchener, Ontario
Re: Early Model Stainless Trim On Late Model [message #347492 is a reply to message #347482] Sat, 07 September 2019 21:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim, the early stainless trim covered the edges of the top and bottom panels. The later coaches had a modified belt line aluminum extrusion with slots that captured the edges of the top and bottom panels. The differences between the two designs are shown in the 78Z Motorhome Parts Book in Groups 23.130 & 23.130H

The first design was a hat section and I don't think it would sit flush on the second design beltline extrusion, so you might have to make up the difference with caulk or gasketing.

Richard


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Re: [GMCnet] Early Model Stainless Trim On Late Model [message #347497 is a reply to message #347492] Sat, 07 September 2019 23:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Problem is that the SS trim is no longer available. You might piece the
short used parts.

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> Jim, the early stainless trim covered the edges of the top and bottom
> panels. The later coaches had a modified belt line aluminum extrusion with
> slots that captured the edges of the top and bottom panels. The
> differences between the two designs are shown in the 78Z Motorhome Parts
> Book in
> Groups 23.130 & 23.130H
>
> The first design was a hat section and I don't think it would sit flush on
> the second design beltline extrusion, so you might have to make up the
> difference with caulk or gasketing.
>
> Richard
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Re: [GMCnet] Early Model Stainless Trim On Late Model [message #347498 is a reply to message #347497] Sat, 07 September 2019 23:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Should be plenty of parts coached around. Problem is it is 3 piece. Rubber, stainless, and a center strip of galvanized that the rubber slides on. The galvanized is what don't make it but possibly could be made or pieced together.

C. Boyd
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Re: Early Model Stainless Trim On Late Model [message #347509 is a reply to message #347482] Sun, 08 September 2019 08:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for all the replies.

It sounds like it wouldn't exactly work, not to mention procuring a good set of trim from a donor coach.


Jim Owens, 78 Royale, Out skirts of Kitchener, Ontario
Re: [GMCnet] Early Model Stainless Trim On Late Model [message #347510 is a reply to message #347497] Sun, 08 September 2019 09:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Or use a commonly available boat rub rail material. Probably not the
cheapest option but certainly the most hearty.

Sully
Bellevue wa

On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 9:36 PM Jim Kanomata via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> Problem is that the SS trim is no longer available. You might piece the
> short used parts.
>
> On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 7:09 PM Richard via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Jim, the early stainless trim covered the edges of the top and bottom
>> panels. The later coaches had a modified belt line aluminum extrusion
> with
>> slots that captured the edges of the top and bottom panels. The
>> differences between the two designs are shown in the 78Z Motorhome Parts
>> Book in
>> Groups 23.130 & 23.130H
>>
>> The first design was a hat section and I don't think it would sit flush
> on
>> the second design beltline extrusion, so you might have to make up the
>> difference with caulk or gasketing.
>>
>> Richard
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Re: Early Model Stainless Trim On Late Model [message #347511 is a reply to message #347509] Sun, 08 September 2019 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim,

Since you have a later coach with the exposed aluminum beltline extrusion, you don't need to do anything besides paint it. The rub rail molding doesn't do anything - it's too high to protect the coach from car doors. It's just cosmetic. I just painted mine and I think it looks better, cleaner.

Richard


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Re: Early Model Stainless Trim On Late Model [message #347514 is a reply to message #347511] Sun, 08 September 2019 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My 76 Royale came with the SS trim and I'm still resurrecting it. The galvanized strip was corroded beyond repair. The screws were locked in tight and required an impact driver to remove most of them. The rest were drilled after the heads broke off. The SS strip is still in pretty good condition but had a lot of scale that was deposited by the galvanized strip. The various end pieces are still serviceable. After a lot of internet searching I found a 50' roll of (1-5/8" wide?) adhesive backed rubber trim that I could mount without need of the galvanized strip. As of now the SS is mounted back on the coach but I havn't applied the rubber trim. It will need cutouts to fit the factory style side lights. Plus I'm still not confident it won't leak water somewhere.

Well I'm putting myself through a good deal of trouble to keep the SS molding. Mainly for appearance and the fact that removing the SS strip exposes original paint. It would be a lot simpler to use the newer design.

JP
Re: Early Model Stainless Trim On Late Model [message #347515 is a reply to message #347482] Sun, 08 September 2019 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks Guys,

Here's a few visuals concerning my query.

Our 78 Royale was vandalized a few years back, basically the OE striping and the body side moulding were damaged and discoloured.

Shortly after that a truck backed into it and caused the damage you see on the right front.

I fixed the right front damage and refinished the area.

The guys at Applied fixed me up with the parts I needed, which was a new marker light and aluminium body strip (used). I bought a late model rubber body side moulding kit as well. I planned to put this on but I started to release the early models have that nice stainless trim and it had me thinking about swapping one over on ours.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/500/IMG_2687r.jpg

Being that the stripes and moulding were damaged I gave up on the idea of keeping it as an original looking Royale.

I decided to start customising it somewhat with added colours and different striping scheme.

As you can see from these pictures I have bonded a set of Flares to the body and removed the striping and mouldings from the sides.

Orange will be a predominant colour on it when I am done, how much of it is not decided upon.

I also have a visor to install and was thinking of adding a front spoiler. I believe there are two fibreglass spoilers available. I'm thinking the shorter of the two.

Since I'm in it this far I am also considering the hidden latch kit for the front access panels.


http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/500/IMG_4315.jpg

That's my 68 Toro I bought in 2005. I bought it as a driver to bomb around in. I decided to restore it in 2010. I went a bit crazy and stripped the whole car down to a shell. I went over every mechanical system in it and refinished it from bare metal up.

As I was restoring it I was searching the WWW for parts and kept seeing "parts may be the same as GMC Motorhome"

GMC Motorhome turned out to be to cool not to have one so....

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/500/IMG_4316.jpg


Jim Owens, 78 Royale, Out skirts of Kitchener, Ontario

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Re: [GMCnet] Early Model Stainless Trim On Late Model [message #347520 is a reply to message #347515] Sun, 08 September 2019 13:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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NICE work, Jim.

Watch out -- you'll have folks wanting you to restore GMC's for them! :-)

Ken H.
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On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 2:30 PM Jim via Gmclist
wrote:

> Thanks Guys,
>
> Here's a few visuals concerning my query.
>
> Our 78 Royale was vandalized a few years back, basically the OE striping
> and the body side moulding were damaged and discoloured.
>
> Shortly after that a truck backed into it and caused the damage you see on
> the right front.
>
> I fixed the right front damage and refinished the area.
>
> The guys at Applied fixed me up with the parts I needed, which was a new
> marker light and aluminum body strip (used). I bought a late model rubber
> body side moulding kit as well. I planned to put this on but I started to
> release the early models have that nice stainless trim and it had me
> thinking about swappping one over on ours.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/500/IMG_2687r.jpg
>
> Being that the stripes were and moulding were damaged I gave up on the
> idea of keeping it as an original looking Royale.
>
> I decided to start customizing it somewhat with a added colours and
> different striping scheme.
>
> As you can see from these pictures I have bonded a set of Flares to the
> body and removed the striping from the sides as well as the old moulding.
>
> Orange will be a predominant colour on it when I am done, how much of it
> is not decided upon.
>
> I also have a visor to install and was thinking of adding a front spoiler.
> I believe there are two fiberglass spoilers available. I'm thinking the
> shorter of the two.
>
> Since I'm in it this far I am also considering the hidden latch kit for
> the front access panels.
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/500/IMG_4315.jpg
>
> That's my 68 Toro I bought in 2005. I bought it as a driver to bomb around
> in. I decided to restore it in 2010. I went a bit crazy and strip the whole
> car down to a shell. I went over every mechanical system in it and
> refinished it from bare metal up.
>
> As I was restoring it I was searching the WWW for parts and kept seeing
> "parts may be the same as GMC Motorhome"
>
> GMC Motorhome turned out to be to cool not to have one so....
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/500/IMG_4316.jpg
> --
> Jim Owens,
>
> 78 Royale,
>
> Out skirts of Kitchener, Ontario
>
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Thanks Ken,

I can barely commit to finishing my own! I still have things to wrapped up on my 68 nine years after starting it. The reason of course is all the time I've thrown at the GMC in 7 years of ownership. That's a project that's never finished I'm afraid!


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