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Front wheel bearing question [message #347026] Thu, 29 August 2019 10:14 Go to next message
6cuda6 is currently offline  6cuda6   United States
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I know we use a 2 bearing design on these coaches and alot of trial and error has gone into finding something that works for replacements but has anyone ever looked at/tried a sealed bearing such as the ones used on cars? or maybe even a hub/bearing setup like modern cars?

Not trying to reinvent the wheel here just looking at possibly a modern solution for an old setup that requires, at times, maintenance and special tools.

(sorry guys im a mechanic with an engineering background in racing so i cant leave things alone.....lol)


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Re: Front wheel bearing question [message #347027 is a reply to message #347026] Thu, 29 August 2019 10:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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That's the idea behind the "one ton conversion:

http://appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/635


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Re: Front wheel bearing question [message #347029 is a reply to message #347027] Thu, 29 August 2019 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
6cuda6 is currently offline  6cuda6   United States
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Carl S. wrote on Thu, 29 August 2019 11:18
That's the idea behind the "one ton conversion:

http://appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/635
Yup, its a nice option for sure, but im not prepared to drop approx 3000$$cdn plus shipping for that when one could potentially do it with what's there for a couple hundred dollars.


Rich Mondor, Brockville, ON 77 Hughes 2600
Re: Front wheel bearing question [message #347031 is a reply to message #347026] Thu, 29 August 2019 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RF_Burns is currently offline  RF_Burns   Canada
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You can do the one-ton upgrade yourself if you have a local junk yard with a late 80's into 90's one ton 4wd GMC or Chev pickup with an un-damaged front end.

Google GMC motorhome one ton front end upgrade.
h


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Re: [GMCnet] Front wheel bearing question [message #347033 is a reply to message #347031] Thu, 29 August 2019 11:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As I have been posting in the past;
If you do the proper things, you can go 80-100,000 miles w/o greasing the
front.
Most that have not had the privilege of learning how to do that need to
check with us.
If One to bearings are so great, then why are they readily available

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 9:07 AM Bruce Hislop via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> You can do the one-ton upgrade yourself if you have a local junk yard with
> a late 80's into 90's one ton 4wd GMC or Chev pickup with an un-damaged
> front end.
>
> Google GMC motorhome one ton front end upgrade.
> h
> --
> Bruce Hislop
> ON Canada
> 77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.1 ton front end
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
> My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
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Re: [GMCnet] Front wheel bearing question [message #347036 is a reply to message #347033] Thu, 29 August 2019 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Justin Brady is currently offline  Justin Brady   United States
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It's not that they are so great, it's that they are so easy lol.

I can swap a whole front hub on my duramax in 15 minutes.
They last about 80-100K miles for me. Even if they lasted 30-50 on the gmc the ability to swap one on the side of the road with nothing but a socket set is awesome.

That being said I highly doubt it's that easy to make a sealed setup work without doing something similar to the 1 ton conversion.



jimk wrote on Thu, 29 August 2019 11:21
As I have been posting in the past;
If you do the proper things, you can go 80-100,000 miles w/o greasing the
front.
Most that have not had the privilege of learning how to do that need to
check with us.
If One to bearings are so great, then why are they readily available

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 9:07 AM Bruce Hislop via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> You can do the one-ton upgrade yourself if you have a local junk yard with
> a late 80's into 90's one ton 4wd GMC or Chev pickup with an un-damaged
> front end.
>
> Google GMC motorhome one ton front end upgrade.
> h
> --
> Bruce Hislop
> ON Canada
> 77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.1 ton front end
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
> My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Front wheel bearing question [message #347042 is a reply to message #347036] Thu, 29 August 2019 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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We do have a double lip seal we provide for the outer seal.
Jeff Sirum and I have them in stock.
If your knuckle is loose, nothing will help.
Need to have a good rebuilt knuckle.

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 9:40 AM Justin Brady via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:

> It's not that they are so great, it's that they are so easy lol.
>
> I can swap a whole front hub on my duramax in 15 minutes.
> They last about 80-100K miles for me. Even if they lasted 30-50 on the gmc
> the ability to swap one on the side of the road with nothing but a socket
> set is awesome.
>
> That being said I highly doubt it's that easy to make a sealed setup work
> without doing something similar to the 1 ton conversion.
>
>
>
> jimk wrote on Thu, 29 August 2019 11:21
>> As I have been posting in the past;
>> If you do the proper things, you can go 80-100,000 miles w/o greasing the
>> front.
>> Most that have not had the privilege of learning how to do that need to
>> check with us.
>> If One to bearings are so great, then why are they readily available
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 9:07 AM Bruce Hislop via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> You can do the one-ton upgrade yourself if you have a local junk yard
> with
>>> a late 80's into 90's one ton 4wd GMC or Chev pickup with an
> un-damaged
>>> front end.
>>>
>>> Google GMC motorhome one ton front end upgrade.
>>> h
>>> --
>>> Bruce Hislop
>>> ON Canada
>>> 77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.1 ton front end
>>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
>>> My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
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>> Applied/GMC, Newark,CA
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>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
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Re: [GMCnet] Front wheel bearing question [message #347044 is a reply to message #347042] Thu, 29 August 2019 13:04 Go to previous message
6cuda6 is currently offline  6cuda6   Canada
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Although swapping a one ton setup would be fun i was more thinking of rotor replacements......i live in the road salt belt and rusty rotors from sitting or not driving enough are a common problem so pulling hubs in the current design to change rotors just doesnt seem like a fun thing to do every spring in my driveway.

Rich Mondor, Brockville, ON 77 Hughes 2600
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