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[GMCnet] Radial rims [message #346322] Sat, 10 August 2019 18:30 Go to next message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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It has been said here many times not to put radial tires on non radial
wheels/rims. My question is why not? Etrailer doesn't seem to support
that theory.

Thanks

Mike in NS

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Re: [GMCnet] Radial rims [message #346323 is a reply to message #346322] Sat, 10 August 2019 18:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The radial tires put out lot of side pressure on the rim bead and cause it
to fatigue.
Your more than welcome to use on radials ad take your chances as you'll
have so air leak before it breaks .

On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 4:31 PM Kingsley Coach via Gmclist <
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> It has been said here many times not to put radial tires on non radial
> wheels/rims. My question is why not? Etrailer doesn't seem to support
> that theory.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike in NS
>
> --
> Michael Beaton
> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> Antigonish, NS
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Radial rims [message #346324 is a reply to message #346322] Sat, 10 August 2019 19:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Kingsley Coach wrote on Sat, 10 August 2019 19:30
It has been said here many times not to put radial tires on non radial
wheels/rims. My question is why not? Etrailer doesn't seem to support
that theory.

Thanks

Mike in NS
Mike,

E-trailer has not been around for 45 years.....
Try it if you want, but be sure you have a good spare.
When you take it to the Canadian tire for repair, be ready for them to be confused. The tire will not leak. The rim about where the spider is welded to it will be leaking thought the crack.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Radial rims [message #346333 is a reply to message #346324] Sun, 11 August 2019 13:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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Geeze, I was just askin' a question Jim...lol
Matt...I was wondering how in Hell you knew about Canadian Tire?? ...seems
you're just next door :)

Thanks guys

Mike in NS

On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 9:09 PM Matt Colie via Gmclist <
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> Kingsley Coach wrote on Sat, 10 August 2019 19:30
>> It has been said here many times not to put radial tires on non radial
>> wheels/rims. My question is why not? Etrailer doesn't seem to support
>> that theory.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Mike in NS
>
> Mike,
>
> E-trailer has not been around for 45 years.....
> Try it if you want, but be sure you have a good spare.
> When you take it to the Canadian tire for repair, be ready for them to be
> confused. The tire will not leak. The rim about where the spider is welded
> to it will be leaking thought the crack.
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Radial rims [message #346334 is a reply to message #346322] Sun, 11 August 2019 13:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know about these things as I make it a point to ask great people in
Canada so called Dumm questions.
Hashing been involved with GMC community for 35 years

On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 11:42 AM Kingsley Coach via Gmclist <
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> Geeze, I was just askin' a question Jim...lol
> Matt...I was wondering how in Hell you knew about Canadian Tire?? ...seems
> you're just next door :)
>
> Thanks guys
>
> Mike in NS
>
> On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 9:09 PM Matt Colie via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Kingsley Coach wrote on Sat, 10 August 2019 19:30
>>> It has been said here many times not to put radial tires on non radial
>>> wheels/rims. My question is why not? Etrailer doesn't seem to support
>>> that theory.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Mike in NS
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> E-trailer has not been around for 45 years.....
>> Try it if you want, but be sure you have a good spare.
>> When you take it to the Canadian tire for repair, be ready for them to be
>> confused. The tire will not leak. The rim about where the spider is
> welded
>> to it will be leaking thought the crack.
>>
>> Matt
>> --
>> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
>> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>
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>
>
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> Michael Beaton
> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> Antigonish, NS
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Radial rims [message #346335 is a reply to message #346333] Sun, 11 August 2019 14:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sandra Price is currently offline  Sandra Price   United States
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Mike, anyone who owns a GMC and drives it through/to Canada would surely
spend a few dollars at Canadian tire.

We met some really nice people as we toured your country.

Sandra and Bob

On Sun, Aug 11, 2019, 1:42 PM Kingsley Coach via Gmclist <
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> Geeze, I was just askin' a question Jim...lol
> Matt...I was wondering how in Hell you knew about Canadian Tire?? ...seems
> you're just next door :)
>
> Thanks guys
>
> Mike in NS
>
> On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 9:09 PM Matt Colie via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Kingsley Coach wrote on Sat, 10 August 2019 19:30
>>> It has been said here many times not to put radial tires on non radial
>>> wheels/rims. My question is why not? Etrailer doesn't seem to support
>>> that theory.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Mike in NS
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> E-trailer has not been around for 45 years.....
>> Try it if you want, but be sure you have a good spare.
>> When you take it to the Canadian tire for repair, be ready for them to be
>> confused. The tire will not leak. The rim about where the spider is
> welded
>> to it will be leaking thought the crack.
>>
>> Matt
>> --
>> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
>> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Radial rims [message #346339 is a reply to message #346335] Sun, 11 August 2019 16:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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You may have a point about a GMC and Canuck Tire....thanks, and we've met
some really nice people touring yours. :)

Happy motoring !

Mike in NS

On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 4:23 PM Sandra Price via Gmclist <
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> Mike, anyone who owns a GMC and drives it through/to Canada would surely
> spend a few dollars at Canadian tire.
>
> We met some really nice people as we toured your country.
>
> Sandra and Bob
>
> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019, 1:42 PM Kingsley Coach via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Geeze, I was just askin' a question Jim...lol
>> Matt...I was wondering how in Hell you knew about Canadian Tire??
> ...seems
>> you're just next door :)
>>
>> Thanks guys
>>
>> Mike in NS
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 9:09 PM Matt Colie via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Kingsley Coach wrote on Sat, 10 August 2019 19:30
>>>> It has been said here many times not to put radial tires on non
> radial
>>>> wheels/rims. My question is why not? Etrailer doesn't seem to
> support
>>>> that theory.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Mike in NS
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> E-trailer has not been around for 45 years.....
>>> Try it if you want, but be sure you have a good spare.
>>> When you take it to the Canadian tire for repair, be ready for them to
> be
>>> confused. The tire will not leak. The rim about where the spider is
>> welded
>>> to it will be leaking thought the crack.
>>>
>>> Matt
>>> --
>>> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>>> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
>>> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
>>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>>
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>>
>>
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>> Michael Beaton
>> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
>> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
>> Antigonish, NS
>>
>> Life is too short to hold a grudge; slash some tires and call it even !
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Re: [GMCnet] Radial rims [message #346351 is a reply to message #346333] Sun, 11 August 2019 20:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kingsley Coach wrote on Sun, 11 August 2019 14:42
Geeze, I was just askin' a question Jim...lol
Matt...I was wondering how in Hell you knew about Canadian Tire?? ...seems you're just next door Smile

Thanks guys

Mike in NS
Mike,

Lots of reasons and yes, we just about next door. Where we used to live, I could row to Canada and not be out of breath.
Mary has Family in Ottowa, London Port Stanley.

I am hoping to come bother you some year soon. I want Mary to see the Maritimes. I loved the Bras d'Or.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Radial rims [message #346357 is a reply to message #346351] Mon, 12 August 2019 05:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Always welcome, young man, always welcome. The odd sail on the Bras d'Or
doesn't seem to hurt the scenery much...

Mike in NS

On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:17 PM Matt Colie via Gmclist <
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> Kingsley Coach wrote on Sun, 11 August 2019 14:42
>> Geeze, I was just askin' a question Jim...lol
>> Matt...I was wondering how in Hell you knew about Canadian Tire??
> ...seems you're just next door :)
>>
>> Thanks guys
>>
>> Mike in NS
>
> Mike,
>
> Lots of reasons and yes, we just about next door. Where we used to live,
> I could row to Canada and not be out of breath.
> Mary has Family in Ottowa, London Port Stanley.
>
> I am hoping to come bother you some year soon. I want Mary to see the
> Maritimes. I loved the Bras d'Or.
>
> Matt
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] Radial rims [message #346372 is a reply to message #346357] Mon, 12 August 2019 11:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I live 275 miles from the closest spot in Canada (Windsor), but my last set of Micheline tires on my Blazer came from Crappy Tire in Alberta.

Rate of exchange, and refund of the GST at the border was a factor. Also I ran a piece of steel through one and they all needed to be replaced anyway.



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Re: [GMCnet] Radial rims [message #346377 is a reply to message #346372] Mon, 12 August 2019 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wasn't the Alcoa recall because the radial tires made the bead crack on the aluminum wheels?
Re: [GMCnet] Radial rims [message #346379 is a reply to message #346377] Mon, 12 August 2019 13:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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David,
The Alcoa wheels were recalled because they were forged incorrectly. The forging process may have induced stresses in the forging. The condition may lead to cracks developing over a period of time. The stresses in the forging could cause cracks in the bead seat or disc/rim area of the wheel, leading to air loss from the tire. This is NOT caused by running a radial tire on the rim!

I have had 2 complete sets (7rims) replaced on 2 coaches. One set under the early recall and on set on the last recall. They paid all cost to have them replaced.

Regards,

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> On Aug 12, 2019, at 1:39 PM, David H. Jarvis via Gmclist wrote:
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> Wasn't the Alcoa recall because the radial tires made the bead crack on the aluminum wheels?
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Re: [GMCnet] Radial rims [message #346419 is a reply to message #346322] Wed, 14 August 2019 09:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I had a '62 Dodge Polara convertible on which I put a set of Michelins. Every time you did a hard corner, the rims would flex and molt hubcaps. I had to get aftermarket wheels.

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Re: [GMCnet] Radial rims [message #346423 is a reply to message #346419] Wed, 14 August 2019 09:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The old bias ply tires would break traction and scrub off forces and loads
(speed, too) long before there was sufficient loading to flex the wheel
enough to shed hubcaps.
Radials? They stay in contact with road surfaces so much better, that
wheels flexed enough to break around the lugnuts and where the wheel center
was joined to the rim. Manufacturers all went to much more robust wheels
after they figured what was happening. But, I don't know if people drive
GMC's as aggressively as Johnny, and nut cases like me, to ever have that
problem. But, most everything is possible I guess. Be on the safe side. Use
radial rated wheels.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or

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> I had a '62 Dodge Polara convertible on which I put a set of Michelins.
> Every time you did a hard corner, the rims would flex and molt hubcaps. I
> had to get aftermarket wheels.
>
> --johnny
> --
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> Braselton, Ga.
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Re: [GMCnet] Radial rims [message #346425 is a reply to message #346322] Wed, 14 August 2019 09:52 Go to previous message
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Note, that was a Dodge Polara convertible, not a GMC. I suspect the GMC would do the same, I'd be interested in someone else's results from hard cornering. I rather keep the groceries in the cabinet....

--johnny


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