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Re: [GMCnet] a/c compressor not engaging [message #345342 is a reply to message #345325] Mon, 15 July 2019 09:55 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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emerystora wrote on Sun, 14 July 2019 12:35
Deb
I have sent this out several times over the years.

"1973 through 1976 models had two relays in that area. The one above the horn is the blower relay for the heater/ air-conditioning blower.
Late 1977 and 1978 models had a third relay at the top which was a delay relay.

The delay relay is the smaller relay at the very top of the panel. It has two leads - on mine they are brown and yellow and one has a male and the other a female terminal at the end of the leads. The leads are approx. 6 to 8 inches long. The female one connects to the male terminal on the lead to the blower motor. The male one leads to the short lead (purple on mine) that goes to the blower relay (terminal 1). If the delay relay burns out you can plug the male motor lead directly into the short female lead going to terminal 1 on the blower relay.

The blower relay (below the delay relay but above the horn relay) has 5 terminals. When the blower relay is mounted with the 5 terminals down, there are two on the left, one in the middle and two on the right.

On the back left side it is #3 which has a red/white wire that leads to a fusible link and that goes into the harness and connects to the red wire from the alternator to the center stud of the battery isolator.

On the front left is terminal #2. Mine has a dark blue wire that leads to the resistor package in the right side of the heater box.

In the center is terminal #1. Mine has a short purple wire with a female connector. The male lead from the delay relay plugs into this (on mine right now I have the blower motor plugged into this as my delay relay is bad and disconnected).

On the right rear is terminal #5. This has a short black lead that goes to a ground screw.

On the right front is terminal #4. This has an orange wire that leads to the heater controls on the dash.

Terminals 4 & 5 control the coil in the blower relay.

Terminals 1 & 2 are normally closed and operate the blower when in low or medium speeds.

Terminal 1 & 3 are normally open but when the dash switch is put in "high" or "max" it actuates the coil and the relay connects these terminals which give power to the blower directly from the alternator in order to get higher voltage and higher blower speed. At the same time it disconnects terminal 2 from the circuit.

This may be more than you want to know but if you have any questions get back to me."

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

The first time I saw this post, it didn't make a lot of sense to me. Who am I kidding - my eyes glazed over and I pretty much quit after "If the delay relay burns out you can plug the male motor lead directly into the short female lead going to terminal 1 on the blower relay.". But after 3 days of pouring over the manual, wiring diagrams, tracing coloured wire, and playing with the test light and MM under there, there is a light bulb coming on! 💡 So far, the main blower relay seems OK, but so was the delay relay last week.

I really appreciate having your "road map" of the underside of the relay, since it's impossible to see under it without removing it (I keep reminding myself to get a mirror and practice working in reverse - helpful for dash wiring too I reckon). My PO has changed out a few wires here and there (nothing creative, like some! Just replaced old wiring) and it's hard for a raw recruit to follow the wiring diagrams when the wire colours are not the original & they can't show the terminal placement on the bottom of the relay.

Keep 'em comin' Emery!


Deb McWade Logan Lake, BC, CAN GMC Alumnus It's Bigger on the Inside!
 
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