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Re: [GMCnet] a/c compressor not engaging [message #345251 is a reply to message #345241] Sat, 13 July 2019 23:48 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Deb wrote on Sat, 13 July 2019 16:38
Found the in-line fusible link (was what I thought it was, floppy, soft green insulation, 18 ga if I'm reading it right. I can see why some folks might feel inclined to replace it with a fuse. Just looks like it's at the end of its life) and it is intact. Insulation is intact anyway. Have checked the 25A fuse in the glovebox, and it is good (checked it 3 times, flicked it, shook it, checked out all 3 times).

Now this may sound stupid, but bear with the electrically challenged Embarassed ... Is the panel flowing current both in acc and running? Or just when the engine is running? Cause when I pulled the fuse and checked for current across the clips I got a light when the engine was running, but not when ignition was in acc. Fuse panel is working from the alternator? Acc is working off the battery? I was wanting to make sure that there was actually current going across the fuse. Perfectly intact fuse means nothing if there's no current for it to carry, right?

The main power wire from the relay to the motor (directly off the battery) is OK. Pulled the top of the dash off yesterday and just checked the fan speed switch now. With the ignition in acc power coming into the switch (brown wire if I'm reading the diagrams correctly) and going out the other connections (blue &?) but not the orange (which I believe is the High), but all 3 outgoing wires light up when the ignition is running. So looks like the fan speed switch is OK. That's as far as I've got. Currently taking pictures of the wiring diagrams (too small for my eyes) so I can check the circuits based on colour, what's going where in the relays and the resistor (though the easiest way to check the resistor is probably to take it out!).

This is going to be a longish process me-thinks. Glad I have a couple of weeks. Should learn a lot about the wiring, basics at least. Let me know if I'm off on a tangent or misinterpreting something. Rolling Eyes
Deb, the previous posting was to tell you how the circuit works. Now let's trouble shoot it. First I believe that the green floppy wire that you found is indeed the flexible link. It is designed to burn in half if there is a sustained over load unlike most fuses that will blow immediately on any current flow that exceeds it's rating. (They do make slo-blo fuses) If the wire does burn in half, I would replace it with another of the same size and forget using a fuse.



Here is how I would trouble shoot this. Am Ohm meter works most times, but it will fail occasionally because you are not reading things in their failing condition. As an example a fuse can read good on an ohm meter but open up when current flows through it. I have seen this many times. Also if the fuse holder is not making a good connection you will not catch it reading the fuse with an ohm meter.

So I would now suggest that you check circuits with a volt meter or a test light. The procedure for using wither one is the same:

1. Connect the negative lead of the voltmeter or the alligator clip on the test light to a good ground. Engine battery negative terminal, or the aluminum plate that the isolator is mounted on, or inside the aluminum plate that the gauges like speedometer is mounted in are all good ground sources.

2. Put the circuit in it's failing condition (Key on and fan switch on in this case) and start reading the various components in the circuit looking for absence or presence of approximately 12 Volts DC.

3. Based on knowledge or the wiring diagram start probing the various items (Fuse - both sides, Motor connection , fan relay, delay relay if equipped, fan switch, etc. looking for where the voltage loss is. Once you have found the loss you can more closely look in that area only for why it is missing.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
 
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