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| Alternator [message #345221] |
Sat, 13 July 2019 09:43  |
Ken Shaffer
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I replaced my alternator with a NAPA one 10 days and 4000 miles ago. We had to run the generator a lot during this trip because the outside temps were so hot. The new alternator just failed again. Does running the generator cause any problems with the voltage regulator On the alternator ?
Ken Shaffer
Marion Iowa
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| Re: [GMCnet] Alternator [message #345227 is a reply to message #345221] |
Sat, 13 July 2019 10:39  |
Ken Henderson
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It should not. The isolator should prevent any current flowing from the
generator-powered converter to the alternator.
Ken H.
On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 11:02 AM Ken Shaffer via Gmclist <
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> I replaced my alternator with a NAPA one 10 days and 4000 miles ago. We
> had to run the generator a lot during this trip because the outside temps
> were so hot. The new alternator just failed again. Does running the
> generator cause any problems with the voltage regulator On the alternator ?
> --
> Ken Shaffer
> Marion Iowa
> 73 Canyon Lands, 455, Manny Tranny, Custom interior
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| Re: [GMCnet] Alternator [message #345237 is a reply to message #345221] |
Sat, 13 July 2019 13:32 |
Mike Kilroy
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I just heard from a second friend their new alternators lasted approx.
10 days each. They went thru 3 or 4 before finding one that is now
running. Seems to be common with the alternators being made today...
On 2019-07-13 10:43, Ken Shaffer via Gmclist wrote:
> I replaced my alternator with a NAPA one 10 days and 4000 miles ago. We had to run the generator a lot during this trip because the outside temps
> were so hot. The new alternator just failed again. Does running the generator cause any problems with the voltage regulator On the alternator ?
> --
> Ken Shaffer
> Marion Iowa
> 73 Canyon Lands, 455, Manny Tranny, Custom interior
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| Re: [GMCnet] Alternator [message #345240 is a reply to message #345237] |
Sat, 13 July 2019 14:09 |
Bruce Hart
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Are these all Napa brand or mixture of all brands. New alternators or
remanufactured?
On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 12:31 PM mike--- via Gmclist <
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> I just heard from a second friend their new alternators lasted approx.
> 10 days each. They went thru 3 or 4 before finding one that is now
> running. Seems to be common with the alternators being made today...
>
> On 2019-07-13 10:43, Ken Shaffer via Gmclist wrote:
>
>> I replaced my alternator with a NAPA one 10 days and 4000 miles ago. We
> had to run the generator a lot during this trip because the outside temps
>> were so hot. The new alternator just failed again. Does running the
> generator cause any problems with the voltage regulator On the alternator ?
>> --
>> Ken Shaffer
>> Marion Iowa
>> 73 Canyon Lands, 455, Manny Tranny, Custom interior
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| Re: [GMCnet] Alternator [message #345250 is a reply to message #345237] |
Sat, 13 July 2019 20:15 |
Ken Burton
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Almost all brands of rebuilt alternators are done by Cardone in Mexico.
If you go with one of the national chains (except NAPA) your get the lifetime benefit being able to exchange it for free anywhere in the US. With NAPA you have to go back to the same store with a paper receipt in hand. Usually if you get a good one from one of them you are OK. I have heard heard stories of people having to go through 2 or 3 of them to get a good one.
Your other option is to take your defective alternator to a local rebuilder. Those usually have a better track record but if it ever goes bad on the road you are out of luck on getting a free replacement.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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| Re: [GMCnet] Alternator [message #345253 is a reply to message #345250] |
Sun, 14 July 2019 05:49 |
Bruce Hart
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Ken, I had purchased my NAPA alternator at the store I work at in Colorado.
I was able to do a free exchange on my last trip in Billings Mt.
It really depends on the store how they want to deal with a customer.
On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 7:16 PM Ken Burton via Gmclist <
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> Almost all brands of rebuilt alternators are done by Cardone in Mexico.
>
> If you go with one of the national chains (except NAPA) your get the
> lifetime benefit being able to exchange it for free anywhere in the US.
> With NAPA
> you have to go back to the same store with a paper receipt in hand.
> Usually if you get a good one from one of them you are OK. I have heard
> heard
> stories of people having to go through 2 or 3 of them to get a good one.
>
> Your other option is to take your defective alternator to a local
> rebuilder. Those usually have a better track record but if it ever goes
> bad on the
> road you are out of luck on getting a free replacement.
>
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> 76 Palm Beach
> Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: Alternator [message #345259 is a reply to message #345221] |
Sun, 14 July 2019 10:39 |
Ken Shaffer
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Mine came from Napa and were remanufactured. On this last trip to California I purchased one in Salt Lake City and returned it defective in Kansas City with receipt. Since it was in the upper 90s yesterday and we have the generator running anyway for the roof air, I chose not to change out the alternator on the road. So hopefully this new one will last.
Ken Shaffer
Marion Iowa
73 Canyon Lands, 455, Micro-level, Alum radiator, Alcoa wheels, Lenzi hubs/bearings, Howell EFI/EBL, Rostra Cruise, Custom interior
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| Re: [GMCnet] Alternator [message #345260 is a reply to message #345259] |
Sun, 14 July 2019 11:37 |
Bruce Hart
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Ken B.
Some NAPA stores are individually owned while other stores are owned by the
Napa parent company. Could be why some Napa stores except al warranties
and some won't.
On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 9:42 AM Ken Shaffer via Gmclist <
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> Mine came from Napa and were remanufactured. On this last trip to
> California I purchased one in Salt Lake City and returned it defective in
> Kansas
> City with receipt. Since it was in the upper 90s yesterday and we have
> the generator running anyway for the roof air, I chose not to change out the
> alternator on the road. So hopefully this new one will last.
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> Ken Shaffer
> Marion Iowa
> 73 Canyon Lands, 455, Manny Tranny, Custom interior
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| Re: [GMCnet] Alternator [message #345266 is a reply to message #345253] |
Sun, 14 July 2019 12:12 |
Ken Burton
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That is exactly it. My daughter worked at a NAPA chain of 6 stores. They would only accept returns from or those 6 stores. I was refused a warranty claim out of state once on a .5 year old water pump.
I do not not know what the policy is at company owned stores, but I assume that they do not have access to sales records from independent owned stores.
They have a different business model than most other chains. Most of their business is local businesses and shops, not walk-in. As an example they hold a contract for all of the Indiana State government. Where my daughter worked walk-in was about 20% of their revenue.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Alternator [message #345267 is a reply to message #345266] |
Sun, 14 July 2019 12:36 |
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A far as I know, O'Reilly's stores are connected. I had an alternator replaced at Branson West, MO 3 or more years ago. When it failed last year, I went to the local store, told them where I bought it. They looked it up on their company's computer, told me the date and time I had purchased it, and gave me full credit.
Do you think I will patronize O'Reilly's in the future? You betcha!
I had a similar result with local NAPA, but that was the same store where I had bought a seven year battery that failed at 22 months.
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From: Gmclist on behalf of Ken Burton via Gmclist
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Cc: Ken Burton
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Alternator
That is exactly it. My daughter worked at a NAPA chain of 6 stores. They would only accept returns from or those 6 stores. I was refused a
warranty claim out of state once on a .5 year old water pump.
I do not not know what the policy is at company owned stores, but I assume that they do not have access to sales records from independent owned
stores.
They have a different business model than most other chains. Most of their business is local businesses and shops, not walk-in. As an example they
hold a contract for all of the Indiana State government. Where my daughter worked walk-in was about 20% of their revenue.
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Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: Alternator [message #345279 is a reply to message #345221] |
Sun, 14 July 2019 14:11 |
jhbridges
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Advance, AutoZone, and O'Rielly's have all three given me new stuff for bad stuff, no questions asked beyond neams and usually phone number. O'Rielly's even gave me a new alternator for my pickup when I took the one which had a cracked front housing back to them. I saw no reason to tell them I cracked it with my own stupidity and they didn't ask, just said sign here and handed me a new one. AutoZone gave me three new fans for my Mopar minivans over the years, again phone number, 'here'. And no need to tell them three different vans. I guess I'll have to actually buy the next one, the PentaStar fitted new ones use a different fan. Starters I usually rebuild myself, bearings, nose bushings, brushes and regulators are cheap. Locally, Dollar Carburetor and Electric has a couple of old gray-headed farts who rebuild AFBs and ThermoQuads such that they work properly. When those two retire or die, I'll have to progress to EFUI on the ratrod.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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