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Wed, 01 May 2019 09:43  |
tmsnyder
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Apologies, this is probably covered somewhere but I had no luck with the search engine. Is there a DIY way to re-do the interior headliner and walls with something that is close to 'factory'?
I'm thinking that the panels can be cut from a hard board material similar to the original, then covered with a headliner material such as this:
http://www.jjautofabrics.com/enduratex-vinyl-headliner-classic-premier-perforated-1181-white-54/
maybe even with a layer of foam under the vinyl?
Can you point me to a reference on how to do this? Thanks
Todd Snyder, Buffalo NY
1976 Eleganza II
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| Re: Headliner [message #343033 is a reply to message #343023] |
Wed, 01 May 2019 11:57  |
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Tom Newell
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Hi Todd,
Headliner fabric is an easy-to-work-with product. It typically already has a foam layer attached to the back (I am cautious about using the word "always").
Yes, it can be glued to hardboard using something like this (has to have a high tolerance for heat):
https://www.autozone.com/sealants-glues-adhesives-and-tape/headliner-adhesive/3m-headliner-and-fabric-adhesive/110464_0_0#
The adhesive is a "contact" style glue, so you will "unroll" (edit: realized I made it seem like one might "roll up" the fabric after spraying the adhesive on; don't do that. This is like one large layer of "roll") the fabric on to the backing and then roll over it with a small roller (available in the carpet installation section at Home Depot). The foam backing and lightweight nature of the fabric makes it easy to work with. Just let it find its own, unstretched and unscrunched, shape as it is rolled on to the backing.
For my pickup, the backing is higher density cardboard card stock, and it is just fine. This stuff is sold in upholstery shops to make door panels. Lightweight, and the good stuff is waterproof:
https://www.miamicorp.com/products/SUPPLIES%20@@26%20TOOLS/DOOR%20PANEL%20BOARD/COWLBOARD.aspx
https://www.miamicorp.com/default.aspx?page=item+detail&itemcode=CB7W&catlist=280&parent=2311
Good luck with your project,
Tom Newell
San Pedro, California
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| Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #343035 is a reply to message #343030] |
Wed, 01 May 2019 12:01 |
Larry
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Keith V wrote on Wed, 01 May 2019 10:50I used that stuff too, I like it, but you have to be careful not to over tighten your screws as it dents easy.
But it feels good and took adhesive well.
Remember to use high temperature headliner adhesive or the glue will fail!
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I used this stuff. Stiff, waterproof and added a R3 insulation. JWID
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/new-ceilings-or-headliner/p16870.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/new-ceilings-or-headliner/p16869.html
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This is the stuff I glued to the Duro Therm.
https://www.dltcorporation.com/category_s/343.htm
Larry 
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #343084 is a reply to message #343035] |
Fri, 03 May 2019 13:24 |
tmsnyder
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That's cool stuff but I kind of like the look of the original 'snakebite' in the link I posted above.
Todd Snyder, Buffalo NY
1976 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #343085 is a reply to message #343084] |
Fri, 03 May 2019 14:59 |
Keith V
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Todd,
The snakebite fabric goes over the plastic cardboard stuff, you either have to glue down some foam, then you fabric, or if youre lucky the foam is already attached.
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That's cool stuff but I kind of like the look of the original 'snakebite' in the link I posted above.
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1976 Eleganza II
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| Re: Headliner [message #343091 is a reply to message #343023] |
Fri, 03 May 2019 22:27 |
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From what I've read plus some personal experience, quite a few "Headliner Adhesives" don't hold up well to very hot climates... I've used the 3M one, and it only lasted about a year or so down here in Texas....
When it failed, I did some more research and read that a lot of pros use a product called "Weldwood Landau Top and Trim Adhesive"
FWIW, I redid the failed 3M headliner with this stuff, and it is still going strong several years later...
https://www.dap.com/dap-products-ph/weldwood-landau-top-trim-high-heat-resistant-contact-cement/
You can find it in quarts, gallons and 5 gallon pails depending on how much you need.... One tip to keep in mind: you're probably going to want to wear a respirator, especially if you are spraying it...
Mark S. '73 Painted Desert,
Manny 1 Ton Front End,
Howell Injection,
Leigh Harrison 4bag and Rear Brakes,
Fort Worth, TX
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| Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #343092 is a reply to message #343088] |
Fri, 03 May 2019 22:41 |
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That looks sweet Carl.
Sully
Bellevue wa.
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 5:05 PM Carl Stouffer via Gmclist <
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> I really like the way my PO did mine:
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3244-headliner-installation.html
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| Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #343117 is a reply to message #343092] |
Sat, 04 May 2019 22:48 |
Carl S.
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sgltrac wrote on Fri, 03 May 2019 20:41That looks sweet Carl.
Sully
Bellevue wa.
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 5:05 PM Carl Stouffer via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> I really like the way my PO did mine:
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3244-headliner-installation.html
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> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
> Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive,
> Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American
> Eagles,
> Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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Thanks Todd,
One of the things I like about it is that the center drop section can be taken down easily in order to run new wiring etc. The other thing is the acoustics. The fabric (hull liner) makes the inside of the coach nice and quiet.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #343127 is a reply to message #343117] |
Sun, 05 May 2019 18:15 |
sgltrac
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I noticed the same thing (quiet) when I took down the oe vinyl covered
plywood and put up foam backed fabric in The War Pig.
Good stuff.
Sully
Bellevue wa
On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 9:07 PM Carl Stouffer via Gmclist <
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> sgltrac wrote on Fri, 03 May 2019 20:41
>> That looks sweet Carl.
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>> Sully
>> Bellevue wa.
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>> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 5:05 PM Carl Stouffer via Gmclist > gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
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>>> I really like the way my PO did mine:
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>>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3244-headliner-installation.html
>>> --
>>> Carl Stouffer
>>> '75 ex Palm Beach
>>> Tucson, AZ.
>>> Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final
> drive,
>>> Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American
>>> Eagles,
>>> Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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> Thanks Todd,
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> One of the things I like about it is that the center drop section can be
> taken down easily in order to run new wiring etc. The other thing is the
> acoustics. The fabric (hull liner) makes the inside of the coach nice and
> quiet.
>
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
> Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive,
> Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American
> Eagles,
> Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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Seattle, Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Headliner [message #343131 is a reply to message #343127] |
Sun, 05 May 2019 21:30 |
Carl S.
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A friend put FRP on the ceiling and his wife was constantly complaining about noise from the engine fan, etc. I notice when it comes on, but it is not annoying at all. The coach is nice and quiet and comfortable.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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