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| Re: [GMCnet] 455 crankshaft wanted. [message #342502 is a reply to message #342501] |
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Matt Colie
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James Hupy wrote on Sat, 13 April 2019 16:47Does anyone in Oregon, Washington, North California have a STANDARD SIZE
crank for a 455. O.K. if it needs polished, or turned .010" or less. Call or email me if you can help.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
Jim,
Did you know that there are Three Crankshafts for 455?
There is Cast Iron, used in most passcar applications.
Then there were Nodular Iron used in many performance cars and in some marine and apparently some motorhomes.
There are also some Forged Steel cranks that were supposed to go to the industrial and some went to motorhomes.
When I got my coach's engine open, it had a nodular crank, and of the two salvage engines, one was noodle (an engine builder joke) and the other was a cast.
The Iron and Noodle can only be differentiated by an N on the front throw.
Matt - whose recent rebuild survived the incident.
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] 455 crankshaft wanted. [message #342504 is a reply to message #342502] |
Sat, 13 April 2019 19:02 |
James Hupy
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Matt, there are at least 2 more. Crusader Marine specified a forged crank
for a 455 for their engines. I used to work on gill net fishing boats
equipped with them. Alas, all my examples have been ruined by exposure to
the dreaded SALT WATER associated with offshore fishing boats.
The final example was used in the actual HURST OLDSMOBILES that were
used in drag racing. They were precursors of "funny cars" and used some
really trick stuff. Among the speed parts were cast iron headers that
blocked off the center heat passage and divided the siamese center exhaust
port, solid lifter camshafts, all gear camshaft drives (no chains), deeper
oil pans with windage trays, main bearing girdles, and finally, billet
steel crankshafts, for manual transmissions. These pieces are long gone,
now. All in the hands of collectors or in junk piles.
The best we can hope for today is the modular iron cranks used in
motorhomes, agricultural applications, and some Mercruiser engines used in
jet boats.
Jim Hupy
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 4:39 PM Matt Colie via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> James Hupy wrote on Sat, 13 April 2019 16:47
>> Does anyone in Oregon, Washington, North California have a STANDARD SIZE
>> crank for a 455. O.K. if it needs polished, or turned .010" or less.
> Call or email me if you can help.
>> Jim Hupy
>> Salem, Or
>
> Jim,
>
> Did you know that there are Three Crankshafts for 455?
> There is Cast Iron, used in most passcar applications.
> Then there were Nodular Iron used in many performance cars and in some
> marine and apparently some motorhomes.
> There are also some Forged Steel cranks that were supposed to go to the
> industrial and some went to motorhomes.
>
> When I got my coach's engine open, it had a nodular crank, and of the two
> salvage engines, one was noodle (an engine builder joke) and the other was a
> cast.
>
> The Iron and Noodle can only be differentiated by an N on the front throw.
>
> Matt - whose recent rebuild survived the incident.
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] 455 crankshaft wanted. [message #342505 is a reply to message #342504] |
Sat, 13 April 2019 19:12 |
James Hupy
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My spell check changed nodular to modular. Grrrr.
Jim Hupy
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 5:02 PM James Hupy wrote:
> Matt, there are at least 2 more. Crusader Marine specified a forged crank
> for a 455 for their engines. I used to work on gill net fishing boats
> equipped with them. Alas, all my examples have been ruined by exposure to
> the dreaded SALT WATER associated with offshore fishing boats.
> The final example was used in the actual HURST OLDSMOBILES that were
> used in drag racing. They were precursors of "funny cars" and used some
> really trick stuff. Among the speed parts were cast iron headers that
> blocked off the center heat passage and divided the siamese center exhaust
> port, solid lifter camshafts, all gear camshaft drives (no chains), deeper
> oil pans with windage trays, main bearing girdles, and finally, billet
> steel crankshafts, for manual transmissions. These pieces are long gone,
> now. All in the hands of collectors or in junk piles.
> The best we can hope for today is the modular iron cranks used in
> motorhomes, agricultural applications, and some Mercruiser engines used in
> jet boats.
> Jim Hupy
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 4:39 PM Matt Colie via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>
>> James Hupy wrote on Sat, 13 April 2019 16:47
>>> Does anyone in Oregon, Washington, North California have a STANDARD SIZE
>>> crank for a 455. O.K. if it needs polished, or turned .010" or less.
>> Call or email me if you can help.
>>> Jim Hupy
>>> Salem, Or
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Did you know that there are Three Crankshafts for 455?
>> There is Cast Iron, used in most passcar applications.
>> Then there were Nodular Iron used in many performance cars and in some
>> marine and apparently some motorhomes.
>> There are also some Forged Steel cranks that were supposed to go to the
>> industrial and some went to motorhomes.
>>
>> When I got my coach's engine open, it had a nodular crank, and of the two
>> salvage engines, one was noodle (an engine builder joke) and the other was a
>> cast.
>>
>> The Iron and Noodle can only be differentiated by an N on the front throw.
>>
>> Matt - whose recent rebuild survived the incident.
>> --
>> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
>> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
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>
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| Re: [GMCnet] 455 crankshaft wanted. [message #342507 is a reply to message #342501] |
Sun, 14 April 2019 10:53 |
rallymaster
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what email client ar you guys using?
Mine suggests corrections, and lets me make the decision.
On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 07:47:47 -0600 Matt Colie via Gmclist
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> James Hupy wrote on Sat, 13 April 2019 20:12
>> My spell check changed nodular to modular. Grrrr.
>> Jim Hupy
>
> I had that problem too.
>
> Matt
Ron & Linda Clark
North Plains, ORYGUN
1978 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] 455 crankshaft wanted. [message #342513 is a reply to message #342509] |
Sun, 14 April 2019 15:33 |
k2gkk
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If you select "spell check" and delete "autocorrect" those are far more satisfactory options. Spell check will challenge your spelling AND if you are sure you are correct with a new word, you can add it to your phone's dictionary!
D C "Mac" Macdonald
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From: Gmclist on behalf of rallymaster--- via Gmclist
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 11:07
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 455 crankshaft wanted.
It's supposed to be a "smart phone", send it to school. ;-)
Ron
On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 09:00:51 -0700 James Hupy via Gmclist
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> Not the server, it is my cell phone.
> Jim Hupy
Ron & Linda Clark
North Plains, ORYGUN
1978 Eleganza II
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