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Macerator Hose [message #340801] |
Sat, 09 February 2019 11:52 |
Carl S.
Messages: 4186 Registered: January 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ.
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Hopefully we are mature enough to handle this discussion without too many jokes or too much innuendo , but I have a question about macerator hoses.
I am still using the same macerator hose that came with the coach after ten plus years. It is a piece of 3/4" vinyl garden hose, cut to length, and fitted with a male threaded fitting clamped on the cut end. It is stored in a conduit storage pipe similar to this:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3410-macerator-hose-storage.html
The problem is that the hose gets/is very stiff in cold weather, making it difficult to remove and then re insert it into the storage tube.
The question is, does anyone have any recommendations on a more pliable hose, specifically one that stays pliable in colder weather? What do you guys use?
Thanks,
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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Re: Macerator Hose [message #340803 is a reply to message #340801] |
Sat, 09 February 2019 12:04 |
lqqkatjon
Messages: 2324 Registered: October 2010 Location: St. Cloud, MN
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Carl- when I did my macerator i was picky. I wanted a 1" id hose. That was smoothwall on the id. And flexible at a wide range if temps. After going to every big box home inprovement, plumbing, hardware and industrial supply shop in a 100 mile radious I could not find something I was happy with. Talking to Jim K he said he was able to find such a hose so I bought from him and was not dissappointed.
I did notice there might be a simmilar hose at the overton store. But had no reason to look at it closer when I was there a month ago.
I was running mt macerator when it was just above freezing and hose is pliable.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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Re: Macerator Hose [message #340804 is a reply to message #340803] |
Sat, 09 February 2019 12:31 |
Carl S.
Messages: 4186 Registered: January 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ.
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lqqkatjon wrote on Sat, 09 February 2019 11:04Carl- when I did my macerator i was picky. I wanted a 1" id hose. That was smoothwall on the id. And flexible at a wide range if temps. After going to every big box home inprovement, plumbing, hardware and industrial supply shop in a 100 mile radious I could not find something I was happy with. Talking to Jim K he said he was able to find such a hose so I bought from him and was not disappointed.
I did notice there might be a simmilar hose at the overton store. But had no reason to look at it closer when I was there a month ago.
I was running mt macerator when it was just above freezing and hose is pliable.
Jon, Is this the hose 'kit' you got from Applied?
http://appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1837
Did you connect yours directly to the macerator pump? Mine was plumbed in by the P.O. to adapt it to a hose fitting and I screw the hose on to that fitting just like a faucet at home. Not entirely convenient, but it works.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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Re: [GMCnet] Macerator Hose [message #340812 is a reply to message #340806] |
Sat, 09 February 2019 14:03 |
JerryW
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Carl, I use a piece of Rubber Garden Hose. I coil it after use, and store
it in a plastic trash bag with a twist tie closure. I flush it after i
empty the tanks, black first, grey second, then clear water. I usually
throw it under the coach when not in use. The PVC pipe trick works well,
many owners use those, too. Cold weather does complicate wrestling with any
hoses.
Jim Hupy
On Sat, Feb 9, 2019, 11:02 AM Jon Roche via Gmclist Not that kit at all.[/color]
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> Just the hose he supplies with his macerator kit. I only bought the
> hose only:
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> http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/513
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> See my photo:
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> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/2011/08/macerator-install.html?m=1
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> I do have a method to hook the hose to my house sewer. But never do,
> because city has free rv dump about 2 miles away.
> --
> Jon Roche
> 75 palm beach
> St. Cloud, MN
> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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Re: [GMCnet] Macerator Hose [message #340818 is a reply to message #340812] |
Sat, 09 February 2019 17:29 |
JerryW
Messages: 256 Registered: August 2018
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That hose is expensive, but it is very flexible .
We also have the other hose that is lot less expensive we supply with our
kit, it is not as flexible and does not kink like the ones at hdw stores.
Our new kit has the Special reduced tap made for us by Lynn Clark that
draws out 50% more of what is left by the other designs.
On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 11:59 AM James Hupy via Gmclist <
gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
> Carl, I use a piece of Rubber Garden Hose. I coil it after use, and store
> it in a plastic trash bag with a twist tie closure. I flush it after i
> empty the tanks, black first, grey second, then clear water. I usually
> throw it under the coach when not in use. The PVC pipe trick works well,
> many owners use those, too. Cold weather does complicate wrestling with any
> hoses.
> Jim Hupy
>
> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019, 11:02 AM Jon Roche via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> wrote:
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>> Not that kit at all.
>>
>> Just the hose he supplies with his macerator kit. I only bought the
>> hose only:
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>> http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/513
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>> See my photo:
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>> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/2011/08/macerator-install.html?m=1
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>> I do have a method to hook the hose to my house sewer. But never do,
>> because city has free rv dump about 2 miles away.
>> --
>> Jon Roche
>> 75 palm beach
>> St. Cloud, MN
>> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
>>
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Re: Macerator Hose [message #340820 is a reply to message #340801] |
Sat, 09 February 2019 17:57 |
Bill Van Vlack
Messages: 419 Registered: September 2015 Location: Guemes Island, Washington
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This works for me...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003DIU4C0/
and this for where it's required...
https://www.amazon.com/Thetford-70400-Nozzle-Sanicon-Systems/dp/B002UC11QI/
Marine hose from mascerator to driver's side rear, then permanent connection to the flex hose.
Stores in some PVC electrical conduit - rigid abt 8' long total - that goes along the fwd side of the bumper bracket, then two 45s, and up to the rear tank. Plumbed in a fresh water connection with a check valve upstream from the mascerator. Pull the hose out of the conduit, extend to dump (the hose stretches), turn on switch, dump, turn off, connect and turn on fresh water to flush, then stick back in conduit.
Works great.
Bill Van Vlack
'76 Royale; Guemes Island, Washington; Twin bed, full (DS) side bath, Brazilian Redwood counter and settee tops,455, 6KW generator; new owner a/o mid November 2015.
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Re: [GMCnet] Macerator Hose [message #340826 is a reply to message #340812] |
Sat, 09 February 2019 16:11 |
JerryW
Messages: 256 Registered: August 2018
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Sounds like I do about the same as everyone else with the hose.
in Spring of 2018, we were stuck in completely stopped traffic. People were getting out of their cars, since we had not moved for a very long time.
We were playing cards, and a knock came on the door, and my granddaughter got to it before I could.
It was a woman from one of the other cars who wanted to use the head.
My granddaughter agreed before I could say NO. I made the usual admonishment about what went down the toilet.
When we arrived at our destination, the macerator promptly jammed, and I spent a couple of hours fishing a feminine hygiene product out of the pump, and missed the boat ride that Lyla decided would be “it”. Seven year old’s can be that way.
Five months later, we were stuck in traffic again, and a knock came at the door. Once again, my granddaughter was the first at the door.
Her response, without prompting “sorry, it’s broken”
After the other traveller left, I had a truth discussion with Lyla.
Her response “I know, but WE have things to do, and I don’t have time for you to be fixing the poop-shooter”
Spoken like her Grandmother.
Dolph
DE AD0LF
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
Howell EFI & EBL, Reaction Arms, Sullybilt Bags, Manny Transmission
“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
> On Feb 9, 2019, at 3:03 PM, James Hupy via Gmclist wrote:
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> Carl, I use a piece of Rubber Garden Hose. I coil it after use, and store
> it in a plastic trash bag with a twist tie closure. I flush it after i
> empty the tanks, black first, grey second, then clear water. I usually
> throw it under the coach when not in use. The PVC pipe trick works well,
> many owners use those, too. Cold weather does complicate wrestling with any
> hoses.
> Jim Hupy
>
> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019, 11:02 AM Jon Roche via Gmclist wrote:
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>> Not that kit at all.
>>
>> Just the hose he supplies with his macerator kit. I only bought the
>> hose only:
>>
>> http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/513
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>>
>> See my photo:
>>
>> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/2011/08/macerator-install.html?m=1
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>>
>> I do have a method to hook the hose to my house sewer. But never do,
>> because city has free rv dump about 2 miles away.
>> --
>> Jon Roche
>> 75 palm beach
>> St. Cloud, MN
>> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
>>
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Re: Macerator Hose [message #341797 is a reply to message #340801] |
Tue, 19 March 2019 00:02 |
lqqkatjon
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The end of my hose has a plastic barbed/ garden hose end. I can hook up a garden hose to it to extend. I also have end sealed when stored with garden hose end. I can get photo later this week.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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Re: Macerator Hose [message #341803 is a reply to message #340801] |
Tue, 19 March 2019 06:27 |
Russell K.
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Hi Carl,
You're right, its hard to avoid the innuendo regarding the challenges with your stiff hose in the cold weather. However, attached to our macerator is a very flexible, 1.5" O.D. hose that actually looks similar to a shop-vac type of hose. It is about 12 feet long and stores in the bumper. It was installed by a previous owner, so I do not know its origin. I don't have a photo handy, but we'll be in Tallahassee on Friday (3/22). Hope to see you there.
Russell
1978 Eleganza II, Dunedin, Florida
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Re: Macerator Hose [message #341807 is a reply to message #340801] |
Tue, 19 March 2019 11:42 |
Scott Nutter
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Carl,
I have heard of people using washing machine drain hose.
Scott.
Scott Nutter
1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI
Houston, Texas
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Re: [GMCnet] Macerator Hose [message #341808 is a reply to message #341803] |
Tue, 19 March 2019 11:39 |
Dolph Santorine
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Carl
I use 3/4” industrial garden hose.
It takes 30 seconds longer to empty.
I use a 1” to 3/4” nylon reducer.
I have 20 feet of 1 1/4” conduit under the coach (through part of the frame in the back.
Dolph Santorine
DE AD0LF
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
Sullybuilt Bags, Reaction Arms, Manny Transmission
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Russell Keith via Gmclist wrote:
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> Hi Carl,
> You're right, its hard to avoid the innuendo regarding the challenges with your stiff hose in the cold weather. However, attached to our macerator is
> a very flexible, 1.5" O.D. hose that actually looks similar to a shop-vac type of hose. It is about 12 feet long and stores in the bumper. It was
> installed by a previous owner, so I do not know its origin. I don't have a photo handy, but we'll be in Tallahassee on Friday (3/22). Hope to see you
> there.
>
> Russell
> --
> Russell Keith,
> 1978 Eleganza II "Harry" 403, Danny Dunn Tranny (w/shift kit, 3.50 sprockets, Allison), Thorley, Stock Brakes w/Remote Vacuum Brake Booster, Dakota
> Digital Dash, 6.5kW Onan, Dunedin, Florida
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Re: [GMCnet] Macerator Hose [message #341816 is a reply to message #341807] |
Tue, 19 March 2019 13:35 |
emerystora
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I also use heavy duty 3/4” garden hose. I bought a 50’ at Home Depot. I cut it in half and fastened the cut end to the macerator through a 3/4” to 1/2” adapter. Don’t let the Home Depot plumbing dept tell you they don’t have the adapter. It’s not in Plumbing. You’ll find it in the lawn sprinkler area.
Attach the end with the male hose end. Then you can use a hose cap on it to prevent the sewage from flowing out. I store the other 25’ section in my propane compartment and attach the hose connectors together when I need to reach farther. Once I had to go about 150 feet to a sewer clean out while traveling. So I bought a cheap 5/8 50’ vinyl hose and used that. The macerator ran fine while pumping through the 5/8 hose. I ran a 20ft piece of 1-1/4” pvc alongside my frame. The front rested atop the diagonal brace at the front and tied with a stainless spiral clamp just below the rear cross frame at the back. I also used the same clamps along the side frame. East to slide out the hose, unscrew the cap and pump out. Then put the clamp back on and slide it back into the storage pipe. No need to flush a hose.
You can find the one piece 20’ pipe at a plumbing supply company. Get one with a bell end (made for connecting another pipe without using a fitting). This makes it easier to feed the hose in the end.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
(On the way to Tallahassee GMCMI CONVENTION)
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 12:42 PM, Scott Nutter via Gmclist wrote:
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> Carl,
> I have heard of people using washing machine drain hose.
> Scott.
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> 1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera
> installed MSD Atomic EFI
> Houston, Texas
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[GMCnet] Re: Macerator Hose [message #367531 is a reply to message #340801] |
Mon, 08 November 2021 19:25 |
Emery Stora
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Ray from the Love Your RV channel on YouTube has an interesting update about the macerate he uses at his brother in law’s house.
https://youtu.be/dJ5GE9VZ8oM
Larry Davick
‘76 Palm Beach
> On Nov 8, 2021, at 5:18 PM, Emery Stora via Gmclist wrote:
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> Tom
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> I have been using a 3/4” garden hose for years.
> I bought a 50 foot red rubber hose from Home Depot years back. I cut it in half and fastened the half with the male hose end to the macerator by using a 1” to 3/4” adapter. That adapter was not in the plumbing section of Home Depot but I found it in the lawn sprinkler section. I purchased a short piece of 1” hose to fasten between the macerator and the adapter.
> I used a brass cap to screw onto the end of the drain hose.
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> I rolled up the other 25 foot piece of hose with the female hose end and stored in the propane compartment. If I need more length to reach a drain I just screw that piece onto the end of the macerator hose.
> I store the macerator hose in a 20 foot piece of 1-1/4” pic which I fastened to the driver’s side frame.
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> The 3/4” hose is more than adequate for a drain hose. One time I even put a 25’ length of 5/8” garden hose between the two 25’ lengths of 3/4” hose. There was no problem pumping out the tank.
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> You can see pictures here: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3352-macerator-and-storage-for-hose.html
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> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
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>> On Nov 8, 2021, at 6:05 PM, tomkatz3@comcast.net wrote:
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>> Good evening all,
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>> I am trying to find the best option on a 1" macerator hose? Any opinions on what type hose works best?
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>> I am trying to keep it attached to the macerator and stow it in a sub-frame tube.
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>> Thanks for any opinions.
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>> Take care,
>> Tom K.
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>> Kingsville, Maryland,
>> 1977 23' Birchaven, 455 C.I.D.
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