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[GMCnet] Higher diesel prices coming [message #340708] Thu, 07 February 2019 10:28 Go to next message
JerryW is currently offline  JerryW   United States
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For those of you who converted your GMC to diesel or who drive diesel powered vehicles, a new ruling will go into effect in 2020 that will materially effect diesel prices. At that point all ocean going vessels operating within 200 miles of shore will be required to burn diesel fuel instead of high sulphur bunker oil. That will reduce the refinery supply of diesel available to the vehicle market and raise prices globally. Another gotcha moment......

Jerry Work
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Re: [GMCnet] Higher diesel prices coming [message #340739 is a reply to message #340708] Fri, 08 February 2019 00:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JerryW is currently offline  JerryW   United States
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WOW they just keep screwing us!

Ken Kruckeberg
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For those of you who converted your GMC to diesel or who drive diesel powered vehicles, a new ruling will go into effect in 2020 that will materially effect diesel prices. At that point all ocean going vessels operating within 200 miles of shore will be required to burn diesel fuel instead of high sulphur bunker oil. That will reduce the refinery supply of diesel available to the vehicle market and raise prices globally. Another gotcha moment......

Jerry Work
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in the 1907 former Masonic Temple building in historic Kerby, OR http://jerrywork.com



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Re: [GMCnet] Higher diesel prices coming [message #340813 is a reply to message #340708] Sat, 09 February 2019 14:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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At this different time in my life, I do not have a diesel vehicle.

I do, however, doubt that this is going to make a huge jump in demand for LS diesel.

The lakers have been LS diesel be edict for years, and the blue water guys that care will just set aside a tank and fill it where it is cheapest. I can imaging being on watch and getting a call from the bridge to change to the LS tank at a specific time. No big deal, we change tanks all the time. Just spin one valve open and the other closed. The only blue water guys that will really care and those doing coastal runs, and those that are not will just wait until they have to for the turn for whatever port they want that day.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Higher diesel prices coming [message #340832 is a reply to message #340813] Sun, 10 February 2019 07:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JerryW is currently offline  JerryW   United States
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I recently read that Maersk as well as many other marine transport companies are exploiting LNG as an alternative low sulphur fuel. There are several marine engine manufacturers already producing LNG power plants, so the long term impact on LS diesel prices may not be that severe.

Les Burt
Montreal
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> On Feb 9, 2019, at 3:18 PM, Matt Colie via Gmclist wrote:
>
> At this different time in my life, I do not have a diesel vehicle.
>
> I do, however, doubt that this is going to make a huge jump in demand for LS diesel.
>
> The lakers have been LS diesel be edict for years, and the blue water guys that care will just set aside a tank and fill it where it is cheapest. I
> can imaging being on watch and getting a call from the bridge to change to the LS tank at a specific time. No big deal, we change tanks all the time.
> Just spin one valve open and the other closed. The only blue water guys that will really care and those doing coastal runs, and those that are not
> will just wait until they have to for the turn for whatever port they want that day.
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
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Re: [GMCnet] Higher diesel prices coming [message #340833 is a reply to message #340832] Sun, 10 February 2019 08:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JerryW is currently offline  JerryW   United States
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Oh they just say they switched. Unless the epa is going to monitor the fuel usage

keith v

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I recently read that Maersk as well as many other marine transport companies are exploiting LNG as an alternative low sulphur fuel. There are several marine engine manufacturers already producing LNG power plants, so the long term impact on LS diesel prices may not be that severe.

Les Burt
Montreal
'75 Eleganza 26'


> On Feb 9, 2019, at 3:18 PM, Matt Colie via Gmclist wrote:
>
> At this different time in my life, I do not have a diesel vehicle.
>
> I do, however, doubt that this is going to make a huge jump in demand for LS diesel.
>
> The lakers have been LS diesel be edict for years, and the blue water guys that care will just set aside a tank and fill it where it is cheapest. I
> can imaging being on watch and getting a call from the bridge to change to the LS tank at a specific time. No big deal, we change tanks all the time.
> Just spin one valve open and the other closed. The only blue water guys that will really care and those doing coastal runs, and those that are not
> will just wait until they have to for the turn for whatever port they want that day.
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Higher diesel prices coming [message #340836 is a reply to message #340833] Sun, 10 February 2019 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jp Benson is currently offline  Jp Benson   United States
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This "regulation" scheduled for 2020 was made in 2005 by the IMO. "Just one of the world's largest container ships can emit about as much pollution as 50 million cars."

https://e360.yale.edu/features/at-last-the-shipping-industry-begins-cleaning-up-its-dirty-fuels

https://www.morethanshipping.com/fuel-costs-ocean-shipping/

JP
Re: [GMCnet] Higher diesel prices coming [message #340837 is a reply to message #340833] Sun, 10 February 2019 09:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JerryW is currently offline  JerryW   United States
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Actually, Bunker C, which is what a lot of older ships use for fuel, is
very dense and must be preheated before it can be injected into an engine.
Many more BTU's fit into the same space as lighter, more highly refined
diesel fuels, so more cargo can be carried on vessels so equipped. The rest
of the world uses it, even on smaller vessels.
There is once again insanity in session at the Oregon Capitol.
Presently being discussed is a bill to outlaw the practice of oil well
fracking in the state of Oregon. Just for your information, there are no
oil wells in Oregon, and no known reserves of oil. There are 4 natural gas
wells that are bored into bituminous coal beds near Coos Bay, that are low
producing wells. Other sources of natural gasses in the state are largely
from sewage treatment plants, and covered up landfills.
Oh yes, the highest producer of nitrous oxide (laughing gas) is the
restrooms at the State Capitol Building. (Grin)
Jim Hupy

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019, 6:37 AM Keith V via Gmclist Oh they just say they switched. Unless the epa is going to monitor the[/color]
> fuel usage
>
> keith v
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gmclist on behalf of Les Burt via
> Gmclist
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 7:36:05 AM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Cc: Les Burt
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Higher diesel prices coming
>
> I recently read that Maersk as well as many other marine transport
> companies are exploiting LNG as an alternative low sulphur fuel. There are
> several marine engine manufacturers already producing LNG power plants, so
> the long term impact on LS diesel prices may not be that severe.
>
> Les Burt
> Montreal
> '75 Eleganza 26'
>
>
>> On Feb 9, 2019, at 3:18 PM, Matt Colie via Gmclist gmclist@list.gmcnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> At this different time in my life, I do not have a diesel vehicle.
>>
>> I do, however, doubt that this is going to make a huge jump in demand
> for LS diesel.
>>
>> The lakers have been LS diesel be edict for years, and the blue water
> guys that care will just set aside a tank and fill it where it is
> cheapest. I
>> can imaging being on watch and getting a call from the bridge to change
> to the LS tank at a specific time. No big deal, we change tanks all the
> time.
>> Just spin one valve open and the other closed. The only blue water guys
> that will really care and those doing coastal runs, and those that are not
>> will just wait until they have to for the turn for whatever port they
> want that day.
>>
>> Matt
>> --
>> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
>> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
>> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Higher diesel prices coming [message #340851 is a reply to message #340708] Sun, 10 February 2019 12:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim H. Maybe the members at the capital are concerned that fracking equipment will be installed in their restrooms. ( GRIN) Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] Higher diesel prices coming [message #340852 is a reply to message #340851] Sun, 10 February 2019 13:00 Go to previous message
JerryW is currently offline  JerryW   United States
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No, right now, they are concerned that the Federal Government Trainers that
they hired to do their "sensitivity training" are not sympathetic enough
towards their claims of "unwanted touching" and other forms of perceived
sexual harassment by males towards female legislative members and support
staff. They want a sterile environment.
Jim Hupy

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019, 10:38 AM Bob Dunahugh via Gmclist <
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> Jim H. Maybe the members at the capital are concerned that fracking
> equipment will be installed in their restrooms. ( GRIN) Bob Dunahugh
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