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Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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A couple of weeks ago, my daughter & SIL bought a vacation home on Lake
Oconee, GA. Their SIL is an avid fisherman, so immediately started wanting
a fishing boat. In the Land-Sea container I had a little-used 25+ year old
Tanaka 3 hp 2-stroke motor which I used on my 16' canoe back "before GMC"
(content).

A few days ago, I dug out the motor and cleaned it up, intending to take it
to the lake last weekend. I remembered that the plastic gas tank had a
leak, so I attacked it with a soldering iron and apparently repaired it.
As it worked out, we had to skip that trip, so the motor sat in the shop,
having not been run for at least 15 years. I'd thought it would fire right
up when filled with gas. Today I decided to test that hypothesis and put a
few ounces of gas mixture in it -- the leak fix held. But nope on
starting. I could hardly pull the rope and doing so brought forth no loud
noises.

So, I checked the good-as-new spark plug and tried some more. Nope.
Hmmm. Pull the gas line from the tank to the shutoff valve. Can't blow
through it, so squirt brake cleaner in it. No workee! Run a piece of wire
through it -- yuuckk! FULL of thick black goop. Who'd have thought 40:1
gas mixture would make a mess like that in only 15-20 years? With that
cleared, I tried again. Still no noise.

So, I disassembled the shutoff valve (fortunately, a simple task requiring
only a #1 Phillips screwdriver) and poked & washed more goop out of it.
Try again. STILL not there. Clean the line from the valve to the
carburetor -- brake cleaner sprayed right through that, so on to the carb.

This whole motor is a treat to work on! Everything's screwed or bolted or
clipped together. The carb's held on with one metal-to-metal sleeve
clamped in place with a single screw. Relieve the torque on the screw and
the carb can go to the work bench. Even that's trivially simple to
disassemble, wash, and reassemble.

Finally back together with the gas tank re-rubber-banded in place, the
hoses spring-clipped back on, and all the Phillips tightened (I ain't about
to admit how many times I R&R'd the cowling after forgetting fittings).
Open the gas valve, set the choke and throttle, and yank the cord:
DRRROWWWLLL! Sounds like 50 hp, not 3! (not even a water tank for a
muffler). Hooray!

I only ran it for 3-5 minutes -- no use pressing my luck. When the Grand
SIL and I finally get together at the lake, I'll have to tear the whole
thing down again. Seems he was raised without a father, so knows NOTHING
mechanical -- but catches on fast -- so we'll have seminar before he
launches off onto the big lake alone.

So proud, just had to share! :-)

Ken H.
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Re: [GMCnet] Success! [message #340007 is a reply to message #340006] Tue, 08 January 2019 18:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Ken Henderson wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 16:58
A couple of weeks ago, my daughter & SIL bought a vacation home on Lake Oconee, GA. Their SIL is an avid fisherman, so immediately started wanting a fishing boat. In the Land-Sea container I had a little-used 25+ year old Tanaka 3 hp 2-stroke motor which I used on my 16' canoe back "before GMC" (content).

A few days ago, I dug out the motor and cleaned it up, intending to take itto the lake last weekend. I remembered that the plastic gas tank had a leak, so I attacked it with a soldering iron and apparently repaired it. As it worked out, we had to skip that trip, so the motor sat in the shop, having not been run for at least 15 years. I'd thought it would fire right up when filled with gas. Today I decided to test that hypothesis and put a few ounces of gas mixture in it -- the leak fix held. But nope on starting. I could hardly pull the rope and doing so brought forth no loud noises.

So, I checked the good-as-new spark plug and tried some more.
Nope.
Hmmm. Pull the gas line from the tank to the shutoff valve. Can't blow through it, so squirt brake cleaner in it. No workee! Run a piece of wire through it -- yuuckk! FULL of thick black goop. Who'd have thought 40:1 gas mixture would make a mess like that in only 15-20 years? With that cleared, I tried again. Still no noise.

So, I disassembled the shutoff valve (fortunately, a simple task requiring only a #1 Phillips screwdriver) and poked & washed more goop out of it.
Try again.
STILL not there.
Clean the line from the valve to the carburetor -- brake cleaner sprayed right through that, so on to the carb.

This whole motor is a treat to work on! Everything's screwed or bolted or clipped together. The carb's held on with one metal-to-metal sleeve clamped in place with a single screw. Relieve the torque on the screw and the carb can go to the work bench. Even that's trivially simple to disassemble, wash, and reassemble.

Finally back together with the gas tank re-rubber-banded in place, the hoses spring-clipped back on, and all the Phillips tightened (I ain't about to admit how many times I R&R'd the cowling after forgetting fittings).
Open the gas valve, set the choke and throttle, and yank the cord:
DRRROWWWLLL! Sounds like 50 hp, not 3! (not even a water tank for a muffler). Hooray!

I only ran it for 3-5 minutes -- no use pressing my luck. When the Grand SIL and I finally get together at the lake, I'll have to tear the whole thing down again. Seems he was raised without a father, so knows NOTHING mechanical -- but catches on fast -- so we'll have seminar before he launches off onto the big lake alone.

So proud, just had to share! Smile

Ken H.
Ken,

I am not surprised by either your success or the problem caused by old 2-stoke mix.
There is a small concern I do have, the only Tanaka outboard I ever touched had a water pump to up the driveshaft column so it could cool the exhaust in the descending pipe. It was still an aircooled motor. It was a rubber impeller and it was bad. It had been run when dry.

It turns out that his pump went bad every year. The owner would get it out in the spring and put it on a saw horse and run it. Never more than a minute. Then he would take it to the lake and try to use it and it would get too hot. So, he would paddle back and bring to a shop (ours). The prior mechanic would fix it but never talked to the owner to hear this story. I talked to him and convinced him not to run it without of some water at the gear case. I never saw him again.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Success! [message #340008 is a reply to message #340007] Tue, 08 January 2019 18:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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I have worked on literally hundreds of outboard motors. Both air cooled and
water cooled. Never, never run one without immersing them in a test barrel.
It only takes seconds to destroy an impeller in a coolant pump when they
are dry. Even idling will do it. Some of those pump kits rival the national
debt when you have to buy one. Especially on big outboards.
Same thing applies to stern drives and sail drives. They use outboard
lower units too.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019, 4:36 PM Matt Colie Ken Henderson wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 16:58[/color]
>> A couple of weeks ago, my daughter & SIL bought a vacation home on Lake
> Oconee, GA. Their SIL is an avid fisherman, so immediately started
>> wanting a fishing boat. In the Land-Sea container I had a little-used
> 25+ year old Tanaka 3 hp 2-stroke motor which I used on my 16' canoe back
>> "before GMC" (content).
>>
>> A few days ago, I dug out the motor and cleaned it up, intending to take
> itto the lake last weekend. I remembered that the plastic gas tank had
>> a leak, so I attacked it with a soldering iron and apparently repaired
> it. As it worked out, we had to skip that trip, so the motor sat in the
>> shop, having not been run for at least 15 years. I'd thought it would
> fire right up when filled with gas. Today I decided to test that hypothesis
>> and put a few ounces of gas mixture in it -- the leak fix held. But
> nope on starting. I could hardly pull the rope and doing so brought forth
> no
>> loud noises.
>>
>> So, I checked the good-as-new spark plug and tried some more.
>> Nope.
>> Hmmm. Pull the gas line from the tank to the shutoff valve. Can't blow
> through it, so squirt brake cleaner in it. No workee! Run a piece of
>> wire through it -- yuuckk! FULL of thick black goop. Who'd have
> thought 40:1 gas mixture would make a mess like that in only 15-20 years?
> With
>> that cleared, I tried again. Still no noise.
>>
>> So, I disassembled the shutoff valve (fortunately, a simple task
> requiring only a #1 Phillips screwdriver) and poked & washed more goop out
> of it.
>>
>> Try again.
>> STILL not there.
>> Clean the line from the valve to the carburetor -- brake cleaner sprayed
> right through that, so on to the carb.
>>
>> This whole motor is a treat to work on! Everything's screwed or bolted
> or clipped together. The carb's held on with one metal-to-metal sleeve
>> clamped in place with a single screw. Relieve the torque on the screw
> and the carb can go to the work bench. Even that's trivially simple to
>> disassemble, wash, and reassemble.
>>
>> Finally back together with the gas tank re-rubber-banded in place, the
> hoses spring-clipped back on, and all the Phillips tightened (I ain't about
>> to admit how many times I R&R'd the cowling after forgetting fittings).
>> Open the gas valve, set the choke and throttle, and yank the cord:
>> DRRROWWWLLL! Sounds like 50 hp, not 3! (not even a water tank for a
> muffler). Hooray!
>>
>> I only ran it for 3-5 minutes -- no use pressing my luck. When the
> Grand SIL and I finally get together at the lake, I'll have to tear the
> whole
>> thing down again. Seems he was raised without a father, so knows
> NOTHING mechanical -- but catches on fast -- so we'll have seminar before he
>> launches off onto the big lake alone.
>>
>> So proud, just had to share! :)
>>
>> Ken H.
>
> Ken,
>
> I am not surprised by either your success or the problem caused by old
> 2-stoke mix.
> There is a small concern I do have, the only Tanaka outboard I ever
> touched had a water pump to up the driveshaft column so it could cool the
> exhaust
> in the descending pipe. It was still an aircooled motor. It was a rubber
> impeller and it was bad. It had been run when dry.
>
> It turns out that his pump went bad every year. The owner would get it
> out in the spring and put it on a saw horse and run it. Never more than a
> minute. Then he would take it to the lake and try to use it and it would
> get too hot. So, he would paddle back and bring to a shop (ours). The
> prior mechanic would fix it but never talked to the owner to hear this
> story. I talked to him and convinced him not to run it without of some
> water
> at the gear case. I never saw him again.
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Success! [message #340009 is a reply to message #340006] Tue, 08 January 2019 19:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kosier is currently offline  Kosier   United States
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Ken, you need to come and visit me. We've got a car sitting in the garage
that
hasn't been started in seven or eight years. And another out in the back of
my shop that got parked in 1970. I don't think it has a chance of getting
any
attention in my lifetime. Lord, but it's easy to make promises!!!

Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ken Henderson"
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 4:58 PM
To: "GMC Mail List"
Subject: [GMCnet] Success!

> A couple of weeks ago, my daughter & SIL bought a vacation home on Lake
> Oconee, GA. Their SIL is an avid fisherman, so immediately started
> wanting
> a fishing boat. In the Land-Sea container I had a little-used 25+ year
> old
> Tanaka 3 hp 2-stroke motor which I used on my 16' canoe back "before GMC"
> (content).
>
> A few days ago, I dug out the motor and cleaned it up, intending to take
> it
> to the lake last weekend. I remembered that the plastic gas tank had a
> leak, so I attacked it with a soldering iron and apparently repaired it.
> As it worked out, we had to skip that trip, so the motor sat in the shop,
> having not been run for at least 15 years. I'd thought it would fire
> right
> up when filled with gas. Today I decided to test that hypothesis and put
> a
> few ounces of gas mixture in it -- the leak fix held. But nope on
> starting. I could hardly pull the rope and doing so brought forth no loud
> noises.
>
> So, I checked the good-as-new spark plug and tried some more. Nope.
> Hmmm. Pull the gas line from the tank to the shutoff valve. Can't blow
> through it, so squirt brake cleaner in it. No workee! Run a piece of
> wire
> through it -- yuuckk! FULL of thick black goop. Who'd have thought 40:1
> gas mixture would make a mess like that in only 15-20 years? With that
> cleared, I tried again. Still no noise.
>
> So, I disassembled the shutoff valve (fortunately, a simple task requiring
> only a #1 Phillips screwdriver) and poked & washed more goop out of it.
> Try again. STILL not there. Clean the line from the valve to the
> carburetor -- brake cleaner sprayed right through that, so on to the carb.
>
> This whole motor is a treat to work on! Everything's screwed or bolted or
> clipped together. The carb's held on with one metal-to-metal sleeve
> clamped in place with a single screw. Relieve the torque on the screw and
> the carb can go to the work bench. Even that's trivially simple to
> disassemble, wash, and reassemble.
>
> Finally back together with the gas tank re-rubber-banded in place, the
> hoses spring-clipped back on, and all the Phillips tightened (I ain't
> about
> to admit how many times I R&R'd the cowling after forgetting fittings).
> Open the gas valve, set the choke and throttle, and yank the cord:
> DRRROWWWLLL! Sounds like 50 hp, not 3! (not even a water tank for a
> muffler). Hooray!
>
> I only ran it for 3-5 minutes -- no use pressing my luck. When the Grand
> SIL and I finally get together at the lake, I'll have to tear the whole
> thing down again. Seems he was raised without a father, so knows NOTHING
> mechanical -- but catches on fast -- so we'll have seminar before he
> launches off onto the big lake alone.
>
> So proud, just had to share! :-)
>
> Ken H.
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Re: [GMCnet] Success! [message #340011 is a reply to message #340009] Tue, 08 January 2019 23:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jimk is currently offline  jimk   United States
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Way to go Ken.

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 5:25 PM Gary Kosier wrote:

> Ken, you need to come and visit me. We've got a car sitting in the garage
> that
> hasn't been started in seven or eight years. And another out in the back
> of
> my shop that got parked in 1970. I don't think it has a chance of getting
> any
> attention in my lifetime. Lord, but it's easy to make promises!!!
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB w/500Cad
> Newark, Ohio
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ken Henderson"
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 4:58 PM
> To: "GMC Mail List"
> Subject: [GMCnet] Success!
>
>> A couple of weeks ago, my daughter & SIL bought a vacation home on Lake
>> Oconee, GA. Their SIL is an avid fisherman, so immediately started
>> wanting
>> a fishing boat. In the Land-Sea container I had a little-used 25+ year
>> old
>> Tanaka 3 hp 2-stroke motor which I used on my 16' canoe back "before GMC"
>> (content).
>>
>> A few days ago, I dug out the motor and cleaned it up, intending to take
>> it
>> to the lake last weekend. I remembered that the plastic gas tank had a
>> leak, so I attacked it with a soldering iron and apparently repaired it.
>> As it worked out, we had to skip that trip, so the motor sat in the shop,
>> having not been run for at least 15 years. I'd thought it would fire
>> right
>> up when filled with gas. Today I decided to test that hypothesis and
> put
>> a
>> few ounces of gas mixture in it -- the leak fix held. But nope on
>> starting. I could hardly pull the rope and doing so brought forth no
> loud
>> noises.
>>
>> So, I checked the good-as-new spark plug and tried some more. Nope.
>> Hmmm. Pull the gas line from the tank to the shutoff valve. Can't blow
>> through it, so squirt brake cleaner in it. No workee! Run a piece of
>> wire
>> through it -- yuuckk! FULL of thick black goop. Who'd have thought 40:1
>> gas mixture would make a mess like that in only 15-20 years? With that
>> cleared, I tried again. Still no noise.
>>
>> So, I disassembled the shutoff valve (fortunately, a simple task
> requiring
>> only a #1 Phillips screwdriver) and poked & washed more goop out of it.
>> Try again. STILL not there. Clean the line from the valve to the
>> carburetor -- brake cleaner sprayed right through that, so on to the
> carb.
>>
>> This whole motor is a treat to work on! Everything's screwed or bolted
> or
>> clipped together. The carb's held on with one metal-to-metal sleeve
>> clamped in place with a single screw. Relieve the torque on the screw
> and
>> the carb can go to the work bench. Even that's trivially simple to
>> disassemble, wash, and reassemble.
>>
>> Finally back together with the gas tank re-rubber-banded in place, the
>> hoses spring-clipped back on, and all the Phillips tightened (I ain't
>> about
>> to admit how many times I R&R'd the cowling after forgetting fittings).
>> Open the gas valve, set the choke and throttle, and yank the cord:
>> DRRROWWWLLL! Sounds like 50 hp, not 3! (not even a water tank for a
>> muffler). Hooray!
>>
>> I only ran it for 3-5 minutes -- no use pressing my luck. When the Grand
>> SIL and I finally get together at the lake, I'll have to tear the whole
>> thing down again. Seems he was raised without a father, so knows NOTHING
>> mechanical -- but catches on fast -- so we'll have seminar before he
>> launches off onto the big lake alone.
>>
>> So proud, just had to share! :-)
>>
>> Ken H.
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Re: [GMCnet] Success! [message #340018 is a reply to message #340009] Wed, 09 January 2019 05:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Gary,

That parked in 1970 one sounds like a challenge! As previously reported
here, John Beaver and I have recovered 10+ & 20+ years parked GMCs over the
past few years, but nothing 48 years! Too bad about it being up there in
purgatory!

Ken H.

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 8:25 PM Gary Kosier wrote:

> Ken, you need to come and visit me. We've got a car sitting in the garage
> that
> hasn't been started in seven or eight years. And another out in the back
> of
> my shop that got parked in 1970. I don't think it has a chance of getting
> any
> attention in my lifetime. Lord, but it's easy to make promises!!!
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77PB w/500Cad
> Newark, Ohio
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Success! [message #340019 is a reply to message #340007] Wed, 09 January 2019 05:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Matt & Jim,

I generally agree with you about not running outboard motors out of water.
But all my research on this one said it doesn't have a pump. Nor could I
find any inlet or outlet for it to use. I was a little worried about the
prop shaft seal, but decided to risk the short run. In hindsight, it would
have been trivially easy to set a bucket of water under the sawhorse.
We'll see how it works out on the lake. :-)

Ken

On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 7:36 PM Matt Colie wrote:

> Ken Henderson wrote on Tue, 08 January 2019 16:58
>> A couple of weeks ago, my daughter & SIL bought a vacation home on Lake
> Oconee, GA. Their SIL is an avid fisherman, so immediately started
>> wanting a fishing boat. In the Land-Sea container I had a little-used
> 25+ year old Tanaka 3 hp 2-stroke motor which I used on my 16' canoe back
>> "before GMC" (content).
>>
>> A few days ago, I dug out the motor and cleaned it up, intending to take
> itto the lake last weekend. I remembered that the plastic gas tank had
>> a leak, so I attacked it with a soldering iron and apparently repaired
> it. As it worked out, we had to skip that trip, so the motor sat in the
>> shop, having not been run for at least 15 years. I'd thought it would
> fire right up when filled with gas. Today I decided to test that hypothesis
>> and put a few ounces of gas mixture in it -- the leak fix held. But
> nope on starting. I could hardly pull the rope and doing so brought forth
> no
>> loud noises.
>>
>> So, I checked the good-as-new spark plug and tried some more.
>> Nope.
>> Hmmm. Pull the gas line from the tank to the shutoff valve. Can't blow
> through it, so squirt brake cleaner in it. No workee! Run a piece of
>> wire through it -- yuuckk! FULL of thick black goop. Who'd have
> thought 40:1 gas mixture would make a mess like that in only 15-20 years?
> With
>> that cleared, I tried again. Still no noise.
>>
>> So, I disassembled the shutoff valve (fortunately, a simple task
> requiring only a #1 Phillips screwdriver) and poked & washed more goop out
> of it.
>>
>> Try again.
>> STILL not there.
>> Clean the line from the valve to the carburetor -- brake cleaner sprayed
> right through that, so on to the carb.
>>
>> This whole motor is a treat to work on! Everything's screwed or bolted
> or clipped together. The carb's held on with one metal-to-metal sleeve
>> clamped in place with a single screw. Relieve the torque on the screw
> and the carb can go to the work bench. Even that's trivially simple to
>> disassemble, wash, and reassemble.
>>
>> Finally back together with the gas tank re-rubber-banded in place, the
> hoses spring-clipped back on, and all the Phillips tightened (I ain't about
>> to admit how many times I R&R'd the cowling after forgetting fittings).
>> Open the gas valve, set the choke and throttle, and yank the cord:
>> DRRROWWWLLL! Sounds like 50 hp, not 3! (not even a water tank for a
> muffler). Hooray!
>>
>> I only ran it for 3-5 minutes -- no use pressing my luck. When the
> Grand SIL and I finally get together at the lake, I'll have to tear the
> whole
>> thing down again. Seems he was raised without a father, so knows
> NOTHING mechanical -- but catches on fast -- so we'll have seminar before he
>> launches off onto the big lake alone.
>>
>> So proud, just had to share! :)
>>
>> Ken H.
>
> Ken,
>
> I am not surprised by either your success or the problem caused by old
> 2-stoke mix.
> There is a small concern I do have, the only Tanaka outboard I ever
> touched had a water pump to up the driveshaft column so it could cool the
> exhaust
> in the descending pipe. It was still an aircooled motor. It was a rubber
> impeller and it was bad. It had been run when dry.
>
> It turns out that his pump went bad every year. The owner would get it
> out in the spring and put it on a saw horse and run it. Never more than a
> minute. Then he would take it to the lake and try to use it and it would
> get too hot. So, he would paddle back and bring to a shop (ours). The
> prior mechanic would fix it but never talked to the owner to hear this
> story. I talked to him and convinced him not to run it without of some
> water
> at the gear case. I never saw him again.
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - '73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
> Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan
> OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Success! [message #340022 is a reply to message #340006] Wed, 09 January 2019 07:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jhbridges is currently offline  jhbridges   United States
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Kosier - what make &model are the two cars?

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Re: [GMCnet] Success! [message #340025 is a reply to message #340009] Wed, 09 January 2019 09:39 Go to previous message
Inline Technologies is currently offline  Inline Technologies   United States
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Gary what car was parked in 1970.
Sounds interesting.

Ken Kruckeberg
The Shirt Factory
806-352-9262

-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Kosier
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 7:24 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Success!

Ken, you need to come and visit me. We've got a car sitting in the garage that hasn't been started in seven or eight years. And another out in the back of my shop that got parked in 1970. I don't think it has a chance of getting any attention in my lifetime. Lord, but it's easy to make promises!!!

Gary Kosier
77PB w/500Cad
Newark, Ohio

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From: "Ken Henderson"
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 4:58 PM
To: "GMC Mail List"
Subject: [GMCnet] Success!

> A couple of weeks ago, my daughter & SIL bought a vacation home on
> Lake Oconee, GA. Their SIL is an avid fisherman, so immediately
> started wanting a fishing boat. In the Land-Sea container I had a
> little-used 25+ year old Tanaka 3 hp 2-stroke motor which I used on my
> 16' canoe back "before GMC"
> (content).
>
> A few days ago, I dug out the motor and cleaned it up, intending to
> take it
> to the lake last weekend. I remembered that the plastic gas tank had a
> leak, so I attacked it with a soldering iron and apparently repaired it.
> As it worked out, we had to skip that trip, so the motor sat in the
> shop, having not been run for at least 15 years. I'd thought it would
> fire right up when filled with gas. Today I decided to test that
> hypothesis and put a few ounces of gas mixture in it -- the leak fix
> held. But nope on starting. I could hardly pull the rope and doing
> so brought forth no loud noises.
>
> So, I checked the good-as-new spark plug and tried some more. Nope.
> Hmmm. Pull the gas line from the tank to the shutoff valve. Can't
> blow through it, so squirt brake cleaner in it. No workee! Run a
> piece of wire through it -- yuuckk! FULL of thick black goop. Who'd
> have thought 40:1 gas mixture would make a mess like that in only
> 15-20 years? With that cleared, I tried again. Still no noise.
>
> So, I disassembled the shutoff valve (fortunately, a simple task
> requiring only a #1 Phillips screwdriver) and poked & washed more goop out of it.
> Try again. STILL not there. Clean the line from the valve to the
> carburetor -- brake cleaner sprayed right through that, so on to the carb.
>
> This whole motor is a treat to work on! Everything's screwed or
> bolted or clipped together. The carb's held on with one
> metal-to-metal sleeve clamped in place with a single screw. Relieve
> the torque on the screw and the carb can go to the work bench. Even
> that's trivially simple to disassemble, wash, and reassemble.
>
> Finally back together with the gas tank re-rubber-banded in place, the
> hoses spring-clipped back on, and all the Phillips tightened (I ain't
> about to admit how many times I R&R'd the cowling after forgetting
> fittings).
> Open the gas valve, set the choke and throttle, and yank the cord:
> DRRROWWWLLL! Sounds like 50 hp, not 3! (not even a water tank for a
> muffler). Hooray!
>
> I only ran it for 3-5 minutes -- no use pressing my luck. When the
> Grand SIL and I finally get together at the lake, I'll have to tear
> the whole thing down again. Seems he was raised without a father, so
> knows NOTHING mechanical -- but catches on fast -- so we'll have
> seminar before he launches off onto the big lake alone.
>
> So proud, just had to share! :-)
>
> Ken H.
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